1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

HP Bonuses according to constitution

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Tiamat, Jul 20, 2001.

  1. Tiamat Gems: 17/31
    Latest gem: Star Diopside


    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2001
    Messages:
    944
    Likes Received:
    1
    [​IMG] I'm sure this has been asked before, but I did a search and couldn't find any threads on this. So, aside from the dice your character rolls, what hit point bonuses do you get because of your constitution, when you level up? At least point me to a link, please. =)
     
  2. Extremist Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2001
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] Hey man! I'm almost sure this was never asked before.

    I can't find such thread either.

    If noone answers, I'll do a research.


    P.S. Don't apologize if you can't find a possible thread, just post a question. If it is really interesting one like this, noone will flame you. Including the worst flamer - me.
     
  3. Lokken Gems: 26/31
    Latest gem: Diamond


    Veteran

    Joined:
    May 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    3
    I'm pretty sure I did this once, but dont bother looking for it, so I'll just do it again :)

    Con: +hp (+hp for fighter/paladin/ranger)
    3-5: -1
    6-14: 0
    15: +1
    16: +2
    17: +2(+3)
    18: +2(+4)
    19: +2(+5)
    20: +2(+5)
    21: +2(+6)
    22: +2(+6)
    23: +2(+6)
    24: +2(+7)
    25: +2(+7)

    as you can see from the table there is really no need to have higher con than 16 if you're spellcaster or thief, as it doesn't give more hit points.
     
  4. Volar Blackmane Gems: 16/31
    Latest gem: Shandon


    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2001
    Messages:
    889
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe the reason why it hasn't been asked before is that it's in the manual :rolleyes:
     
  5. reijek hidesman Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2001
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    0
    While the basic information is in the manual, there are some subtleties that aren't ever addressed, and that I'm kind of curious about myself.

    1. For fighter levels over 9, you're supposed to get 3 hp/level, but I've found that some get 4. So... how exactly does constitution affect levels after 3?

    2. Multi-class characters with an odd numbered constitution bonus. When you halve the constitution bonus, do you round up or down?
     
  6. Lokken Gems: 26/31
    Latest gem: Diamond


    Veteran

    Joined:
    May 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    3
    I presume you mean levels after 9?

    1: this sounds weird, perhaps the barbarian kit give an extra so it's +4 afterwards, but else I would think this a bug.

    2: I would expect it to round up, but be free to correct me. I tihnk it goes like this. A multiclass fighter/mage with a con of 19, let's say the character get max HP.
    mage level gives (4+2/2)/2=2,5 (this I would believe to become 3)
    fighter level gives (10+5/2)/2=6,25 (this I would believe to become 6).
    ok, this is just speculation, anyone know this? some 2nd edition ad&d players come to aid please! :)


    [This message has been edited by Lokken (edited July 20, 2001).]
     
  7. Ragusa

    Ragusa Eternal Halfling Paladin Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2000
    Messages:
    10,140
    Media:
    63
    Likes Received:
    250
    Gender:
    Male
  8. Tiamat Gems: 17/31
    Latest gem: Star Diopside


    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2001
    Messages:
    944
    Likes Received:
    1
    Well, I don't think the Barbarian gives extra HP, because I'm playing one at lv.15; He only got 3hp when he leveled up. So, you can expect to roll your D5, D10 or D12 until lv.10 and then you only get 3hp more each time you level up?!
     
  9. Lokken Gems: 26/31
    Latest gem: Diamond


    Veteran

    Joined:
    May 15, 2001
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    3
    you gain hit point from hit dice till lvl 9 (lvl 9 included). all levels beyond that you get:
    fighters:3
    clerics:2
    rogues:2
    wizards:1
     
  10. Enthasius Gems: 8/31
    Latest gem: Skydrop


    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2001
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    0
    You could use an item like the helm of balduran if you need the extra hitpoints, ( of even the manual of bodily health if you feeling sneaky ;) .)
     
  11. Ragusa

    Ragusa Eternal Halfling Paladin Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2000
    Messages:
    10,140
    Media:
    63
    Likes Received:
    250
    Gender:
    Male
    There are some more neat Items that have this effect: the pale green Ionstone & the field plate of balduran iirc.
     
  12. Tiamat Gems: 17/31
    Latest gem: Star Diopside


    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2001
    Messages:
    944
    Likes Received:
    1
    WHAT manual of bodily health ... those don't even exist anymore in BG2, right? So, basically, don't expect your character to get much over 150-160 HP?
     
  13. Extremist Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2001
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] Tiamat, those manuals are cheat items in SoA.
     
  14. Tiamat Gems: 17/31
    Latest gem: Star Diopside


    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2001
    Messages:
    944
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hey, well, I don't cheat more than I have to. Maybe when I get to then nine hells, I'll go through it the evil way a couple of times............. But I don't wanna be evil!!! Oh well.
     
  15. Voy Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar


    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2010
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    sorry for bump but I got a question; what if I eat a tome of constitution at say level 5 ? When I go from 15 to 16 CON do I get bonus 9hp to my total? Or does it only count for my next levels ?
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2011
  16. Blackthorne TA

    Blackthorne TA Master in his Own Mind Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2000
    Messages:
    10,407
    Media:
    40
    Likes Received:
    231
    Gender:
    Male
    As I recall, Constitution applies retroactively, i.e. it applies to all levels you currently have as well as any future levels.
     
  17. Voy Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar


    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2010
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    thanks for info, I'm happy to hear that :p
     
  18. Bsisi Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar


    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2011
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    4
    "As I recall, Constitution applies retroactively, i.e. it applies to all levels you currently have as well as any future levels."
    Confirmed.
     
  19. T2Bruno

    T2Bruno The only source of knowledge is experience Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2004
    Messages:
    9,769
    Media:
    15
    Likes Received:
    440
    Gender:
    Male
    Constitution bonus only applied to the levels which gain "hit dice". For warriors and priests that's only nine levels, I believe it is ten for rogues and mages. You do not gain constitution bonuses for higher levels.
     
  20. Voy Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar


    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2010
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    2
    Gender:
    Male
    I know :D
     
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.