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Is there a way to keep both Viconia and Keldorn in the party?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Balic, Nov 20, 2004.

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    I heard that they end up fighting each other and whatnot, but I want to have them both... Is there a way to do that...?
     
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    Kitrax Pantaloons are supposed to go where!?!?

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    Short answer: Yes!
    Long answer: You need to install the 'Ease of Use' Mod. You don't have to install all the different parts of the mod, but there is a component that makes all the party members stay in the group...IIRC it also keeps them from leaving your party if your reputation goes past their breaking point.
    You can find it on SP, but for a direct link, go to WeiDU's main page It's a site hosted by SP and it holds a lot of great mods...not to mention the greatest thing to hit BG2 since ToB (WeiDU itself)! :thumb: :rolling:
     
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    I beat the game once with both of them in the party. Each time they fought I just loaded a saave game, and in the expansion that must not be named they finally stopped fighting.
     
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    MEN YOU CAN KEEP THEM i have kept them without instal nothing !!!!!!!!! with much work and thinking you can keep them !!!!!1
     
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    Shrikant Swords! Not words! Veteran

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    When ever they begin to fight just reload and make sure that this time you keep them as far apart as possible. 1/2 a screen width should do. Repeat until you finish SoA or complete her romance.
     
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    I'm not bringing either into my party this time around though, but seriously? this works?
     
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    Yup, it does.
     
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    When this has been up before, it's been suggested to maze one of them. When they return they have calmed down.
     
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    I think it's luck of the draw. I haven't had a problem with both of them in my party. I've heard that a high charisma will help, but that appears to not be the case in other posts I've read.

    The conversation thread in question appears to be random -- you may be able to keep them if you reload to the previous saved game before the fight.
     
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    I can confirm that this is true - I have done it a couple of times. Luckily the dialogue thread tends not to pop up very frequently - for me it seems to happen only once or twice per game.
     
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    The dialogue almost always seems to come back for me. Quick load only helped in that I was able to move them away from each other. If left alone Keldy would again pick on Viccy.
    Next time I'm gonna make a party with Minsc and Edwin and see if I can them through SoA. Anyone know if Minsc tries to behead Edwina?
     
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    In my experience, the fight between Prig and Viccy occurs very soon, while the one between Minsc & Edwin can never happen. I was pretty late in the game with a paladin and it didn't occur once.
    With a mere dwarven fighter it did in Spellhold.
     
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    So the PCs Char stat has something to do with if and when these guys fight? Does wearing the 'Ring of Human Influence' help?
     
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    I'm not sure, but I think yes...

    BTW, as far as I know, with 18 charisma (from ring, base charisma 17) Viconia does not leave your party even if your rep keeps on 20. However, with 17 she will leave after I don't know how many "I won't travel with fools"
    Although to be honest I have not had Keldorn and Viconia in my party for any longer time, so I don't know if charisma helps there.
     
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    Kinda off topicish but Edwin leaves at around the same time as Viconia does (re:reputation).
     
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    Charisma has no effect on whether your party members leave due to reputation. Both the Edwin-Minsc conflict and the Keldorn-Viconia conflict are triggered by random banters, so it is entirely possible in both cases that you could keep a pair without ever having a conflict.
     
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