View Full Version : I love this RPG
Sun, 18th Jan '04, 10:52am
I don't know why everybody hate that game. In my short experience in virtual-RPG, pool of radiance is in my top five. I like the system when it's similar to a dungeon & dragons of table. (turn by turn and round by round) That's why my favorite games are this one and Temple of elemental evil. I don't like the speed of icewind dale, but Baldur's Gate II have an amazing story line so I can place it in my favorite too.
If you have any question about that game, email me or post here and it will be a pleasure for me to answer you the best I can.
Wed, 21st Jan '04, 1:58am
Aye Klimax, I too enjoyed this game very much.
The turn based combat system is nice, I had hoped ToEE would be the game to bring the turn based system the respect it deserves. Oh well, dare to dream I guess.
Wed, 21st Jan '04, 8:17am
Next time I find myself lacking something to do, I'll diig my copy up. That is, as soon as I figure out how the hell does the game work....
Wed, 21st Jan '04, 12:55pm
It's selling on Ebay for next to nothing...
Pool of Radiance on Ebay (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=Pool+of+Radiance+)
Wed, 21st Jan '04, 4:34pm
Should be sold for nothing...
Although, I remember I liked it alittle the first time I played it. Maybe if I get drunk enough...
Wed, 21st Jan '04, 7:52pm
IMO the reason most people don't like this game and the slower turn based combat system, is because it requires patience and thought.
Most gamers these days just want super-magic weapons they can use to slash thier way through battle after battle, without having to stop and think about things like strategy and character placment. Don't like it? Well then, don't play it.
Wed, 21st Jan '04, 9:50pm
Actually my favorites part was when it wipped my harddrive. Oh well, it needed a reformat anyways :p
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 12:09am
It's good to see your answer. I'm sure that the people who don't like this system don't like the real D & D game with real dice too. Taste are in nature and it's good for everyone. :)
I hope for the future that every RPG will have both system in selection. I like the suspense while waiting for the AI roll, it's some kind of gambling. ;) One good thing added to the system of ToEE: The AI roll of each AI character are played simultaneously to accellerate the combat and the party's roll are like pool of radiance. Some kind of chess game.
For 10$ and 100 hour of playing, it's not expensive for a pass time.
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 4:03am
My favourite part of the game is the intro, it is actually quite good, too bad the rest of the game is a bunch of crap :)
@Klimax: I do like real D&D, but I'd rather shoot myself in the hip than play this game again :D
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 4:15am
I'm sorry, but this game was a big pile of crap. It fried MANY people's hard drives. I love turn based combat. In fact, if ToEE had a half-way decent plot, I'd really enjoy it, because they did a great job implementing 3E rules. However, POR did not. They didn't have all of the base character classes. The BASE 11 classes! Skills implementation was pathetic. And the gameplay was absolutely ridiculous. One battle between your starting party and a couple of orcs would take 10 minutes because everything moved to damn slowly! I could tell my fighter to run up and hit an Orc, then go make a cup of coffee while I waited for him to do it! And before you say it, it wasn't my PC, it was the game engine.
Sorry, I'm ranting now. It just blows my mind to hear people with good things to say about this game. It was just SOOOOOO bad!
To each their own tho. :)
Edit: Oh, and I love PnP D&D. So that's not the issue.
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 1:04pm
Looks like this is turning into your average POR:2 bashing session.
The reason I didn't like the combat system is because it didn't give you long enough to actually do much. You have to fly through the clicking the cast a spell, and usually don't make it before the round is over.
Anything that requires a patch to be uninstalled deserves to have the patch used to its fullest extent.
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 3:51pm
I dont play PnP anymore. But I did play D&D, Eon and Mutant for 8 years or so.
(Dont know if they are called that in English)
I guess your theory didnīt fall through :)
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 5:08pm
Eon is Swedish only, Duke, so it doesn't have a name in English AFAIK. The same is with Neo-Tech...
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 5:24pm
Okies, here goes...
on the "pile of crap side"
The game was in fact a buggy release, that would randomly fry a small number of people's harddrives,
It is mind-bogglingly glacially paced (patience schmatience, the walk speed of the characters is slug-like) and they can't move more than a certain distance apart before the game freezes everything and tells you to get everyone back together,
The interface is so tiny, that clicking the right spell level, or feat, or whatever becomes a wrist spraining feat in itself,
Miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, orc criticals you for 27 damage...,
creative interpretation of 3rd ed rules: monsters get attacks of opportunity galor on you, while they themselves enjoy the freedom of waltzing through your front line fighters to one-shot-kill your mages in the back,
Prescripted fights ad-nauseum ensure that melee monsters spawn on your wizards/priests,
repeat fights with the same identical monsters, over and over again! For hours on end, skeletons, zombies, and orcs (sometimes they call them orogs, but they're really orcs - they just take longer to kill), with the occasional wraith or naga thrown in.
developers couldn't think of a way to make the game interesting with normal balanced encounters early on, so they compensate by supplying your first or second level characters with obscenely powerful weapons to deal with the stupidly written encounters (right off I found a +3 club that does double damage on every swing...),
nearly no one, and no reason to sell stuff to, or buy stuff from,
the story is just sort of... there... no reason to get interested in it.
Ok - positives (heh):
once you get through the first few quests, it becomes a sort of comfortable habit to play, it doesn't take a lot of effort or thought, it just kills time...
the turn based system is pretty good, with the AoE spells being particularly well done, there are however glaring problems with certain aspects of it - I mean BAD really BAD,
the graphics are decent and sort of different from most other games, and you'll see some monsters that don't show up in the Bioware releases. I particularly liked the nagas, aracats and golems,
Mercifully I can't think of anything else to say on this game, other that I nearly finished it when HotU came out at which point I dropped it for a MUCH more interesting game.
Thu, 22nd Jan '04, 6:40pm
You forgot the Drows later in the game and the Dragon in the final confontation.
Thanks for responding, it's good to see that you have reaction: bad or good. :) Your arguments are good and civilize. My theory on real D&D seem to be bad but I think we had some pleasure express ourselves.
If I want to be ironic I could say: What are you making in that section of the forum. :) :) :) :) :) ;)
See you later in the other section. Thumbs up guys.
Fri, 23rd Jan '04, 6:25am
Ah, there be one good point on it you missed - The Box Art! The best part of the game, opening the really groovy box with the delusion that you have a good game :D :p
Fri, 23rd Jan '04, 2:43pm
I never had a box! I bought it used for $2.76!
I only had a jewel case. :(
(incidently, I've been told that I spent $2.76 too much... but I actually did enjoy it after I got out of "the brown dungeon.")
Sat, 24th Jan '04, 12:37am
I thought this was an amazingly brilliant game.
Right up to the point where I started playing it. After that it went downhill big time.
Mon, 26th Jan '04, 9:33pm
Worst thing I ever had on my HD, even worse then a virus.
Thu, 12th Feb '04, 5:08am
I don't know why everyone hates it either.
But then I tend to enjoy unpopular games, like Unlimited Saga which seems to be the current game of choice for console gamers to hate.
The Soul Forever Seeking
Tue, 17th Feb '04, 8:12pm
Truth be told, I'm vaguely tempted to buy it simply to see how bad it is.
Tue, 17th Feb '04, 9:06pm
Resist the urge!
You'll regret it if you do go and buy it.
Tue, 17th Feb '04, 11:15pm
Why spend money on this game? You could hire... nay... CHARGE a gay man to sodomise you and even then it wouldn't be as horrible.
I never managed to reach the dragon. I was bored beyond death after the first 4 levels of the first dungeon where every room looks the same and then there are the lizardmen, the orcs and ghouls... then more lizardmen, orcs and ghouls and just to make things different... orcs, ghouls then lizardmen.
Sat, 13th Mar '04, 11:12pm
you know whats funny, you post about repetition, and everyones post is basically repetition of other peoples post on this forum about how bad the game was.
[ Unless you have something genuine to contribute to the thread itself, don't bother posting. Especially when its been lying dormant for so long. ] - Beren
[ March 14, 2004, 00:40: Message edited by: Beren ]