View Full Version : Wtf I Hate Nwn!


SlimShogun
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 2:17am
Well, after waiting over two years for this game, i installed it on my computer to find that it wont RUN! Well it runs, but it takes about 3 second to load every movement i command! I have 64 megs of ram, and i thought that was the problem, so i loaded it on my friedns comp who has 512 ram, 650 Pentium II and GForceIV, and it still didnt work!!!! what do i need to run this game smooth? Someone, please post...I NEED THIS GAME TO LIVE!

[This message has been edited by SlimShogun (edited June 24, 2002).]

IronEagle
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 3:15am
I hate to say it, but from what ive heard, anything below a ghz is gunna struggle

Llandon
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 3:16am
Read the minimum system specs. 96mb of ram with windows 98, A minimum of 128mb with XP. It reccomends 128 with 98 and 256MB with XP. I have 128 and XP and the gme runs slow, so I'm doubleing my RAM on Tuesday. I'll let you know if it works. Also, you need a minimum of a PII450mhz.

SlimShogun
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 6:51am
In the specs ON THE BOX it says it should run with my friends' PII 650, 512 RAM, Windows 98, 64 Meg Geforce4!

b_p
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 8:13am
Well, it sounds like you need a better processer, i believe ur friend has the minimum which always make s games run crapply. Ur comp wont run it good at ALL due to its crappy ram amount, and if that doesnt work, ur game copy MAY be scrated or somthing, but i highly doubt that. (Two years and you thought 64 megs would do?!?)

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Vormaerin
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 9:03am
I seem to recall hearing that some people were having problems with the copy protect interaction with the driver for their CD drive. You might want to check out the tech support section of the official forum.

The game does run fine for most people with specs similar to your friend's, so there is obviously something specific to your friend's hardware that the game doesn't like.

Aloha
Vormaerin

Extremist
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 10:23am
The copy protection can't be the reason to lag he gets when issuing commands. I mean, when you issue a command, engine shouldn't check each time if your CD is in the drive. If it does do that, it's nothing but a bug that will automatically move all system specs to the step IronEagle posted.

SlimShogun, try with lowering all details, and also try with updating your GeForce drivers (if you haven't already). Also, if you use some of those fancy wireless keyboards or mouses, try if it works better with turning keyboards' enhanced options off or try with regular mouse.

And please post what happens - I'm running Duron 750 and I don't want such thing on my PC.

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Headbanger
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 11:47am
Finally a good reply Ex! I don't know what the default settings that are automatically used when you first start the game. Maybe the default is 1024x768, in that case, lower it to 800x600. Also try using 16-bit colors instead of 32 (if possible), I think it will be on 32-bit for that is default in WinXP.

Another thing: I have a Athlon XP 1700 (1,47 ghz) and after installing WinXP I also had some problems. This is caused by bad drivers for Videocards. After installing one of the latest Detonator Drivers, my framerate in Quake 3 doubled, from 47 to 103 frames per second. So get those new drivers here. (http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=windows2000) (these drivers for are for win2000 and XP]

You might also try to disable Anti Aliasing when it is enabled.

I'm sure that this will fix your problems.

TriLleX The Slayer
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 12:24pm
Well, hello Ex :) Good to see ya on this board.

I have a lowend computer P2-333 MHz 96 MB Ram
and a Geforce 2 GTS.

It runs fine, when not in big areas. Try to update your drivers etc. or atleast take some of that nifty effects off.

Taluntain
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 1:53pm
I have a Duron 750 and a GeForce 2 and the game runs fine.

Headbanger
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 3:38pm
Yeah but you are a sorcerer, you can cast Haste on your computer ;)

SlimShogun
Mon, 24th Jun '02, 11:15pm
Guys, I think I'm gonna cry...

But first, I'll reiterate fully what has happened:

My computer:
Windows ME
700 mHz Celeron
64 MB RAM (Assume 196, because I just ordered another 128)
S3 Savage4 S540 Graphics Card w/ 32 MB RAM
AMC97 codec 3D Stereo, PCI, 16-bit sound card w/ Crystal sound chip on motherboard

EFFECTS: NWN lags incredibly, even in 800x600 w/ all effects off, cursor flickers terribly, sound stutters a TON and shuts off eventually...

My friends' computer:
Windows 98
600 mHz PII
512 MB RAM
64 MB GeForce4 graphics card
Not sure what sound card/system/etc.

EFFECTS: NWN lags fairly badly, even in 800x600, same sound stuttering as on my computer, but no cursor flickering...

ANOTHER PROBLEM is that I cannot find updated drvers for my card because s3 merged (or something) with sonicblue, and for some reason my card is either not supported or the drivers are incredibly hard to find.

OK--If anybody could give me a link to updated drivers for Windows ME for my graphics card, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. My soul cries out for NWN, but I need all of your help to feed its desire...

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Nefalu
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 1:09am
I had the EXACT same problem, though I'm well above the req's (1.6 AMD T-bird, 512mb, GForce2, SBLive 5.1). Updating my vid drivers alomst fixed the problem, but updating both vid and sound drivers was what finally made it run correctly.

I see all you people saying "I'm only into chapter 2, not far at all." I just finished Ch1, it it took a almost 20 hours! Either I suck or this game is HUUGE, a lot bigger than Diablo series or Dungeon Siege.

SlimShogun
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 4:25am
CRAP. I don't know where to look for updated sound drivers, either. CAN ANYBODY HELP ME?

Taluntain
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 5:11am
Even without the caps, we see your posts. For updated drivers look on the motherboard makers' homepage. If you're really lucky, they might actually bother to upgrade on-board sound chips. But I doubt it. Buy a Sound Blaster. That way you'll at least know all games will work and you'll always be able to get the latest drivers.

Havoc013
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 5:51pm
Slim, I think your problem is your video card. I was having problems with my computer with an S3 video card and after substantial digging, on the official site, I found a list of video that were not supported. That is, it said that you could not run the game at all with certain video cards. All S3 cards were listed.

Errol
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 6:29pm
Oooooooh...dear.:(:cry:
Here we go:
Windows 98/ME
800mhz Athlon
128 RAM
Er..I have NVidia?
Er..soundblaster anyone?

Will NWN work on that? Because after it's delivered...i can't take it back!!:eek::(:aaa::aww:

Taluntain
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 8:24pm
For the like 10th time... YES. If you meet the minimum system requirements, the game will run FINE! :rolleyes:

Claron
Tue, 25th Jun '02, 10:19pm
After two days of updating drivers, replacing soundcards, etc, the following was posted on the Bioware boards. I hope it helps someone.


you can disable sound in the Configuration program, and that allows you to get in the game, here is something to try (with sound enabled of course).

Before you start the game, go to the directory where you installed Neverwinter Nights and open the file nwn.ini

Look for the [Sound Options] section put this line in there (remove the 3D Provider= that is already there):

3D Provider=Miles Fast 2D Positional Audio

Then, save the file and try firing it up again.. You should of course have already updated your sound card drivers.

SlimShogun
Wed, 26th Jun '02, 3:19am
****. This does not look good for my chances of playing NWN.

bp
Tue, 2nd Jul '02, 10:05pm
I have:

800 mhz Athlon (T-bird)
128 mb ram
GeForce3 video
etc

The game runs fine. I do get a little sound chop, and occasional slow downs, but it is quite playable. I went to 1024x768 with maximum video details, and it looks good!

Sir Belisarius
Tue, 2nd Jul '02, 10:24pm
I have an Intel Celeron 766Mhz, 256K Ram, and an Invidia GeForce video card...Some of the bigger areas, like Port Llast and the Neverwinter City Core have been a little slow, but otherwise...the game has been fine!

Ragusa
Tue, 2nd Jul '02, 10:37pm
I have a 650MHz Athlon, 320 MB RAM, ELSA Gladiac-721 GF-3 64 MB-DDR and a fast 7.200 rpm hdd and a good motherboard.

NWN runs flawless on max detail setting for me :)

Laertiades
Tue, 2nd Jul '02, 10:51pm
lol

I bought a new PC for this game...

wylo
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 3:24am
The video card is the problem. I had to sell mine and get a radeon 8500. not that im complaining, but it was a pain in the ass.

griffin1987
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 3:48am
lol...i hate it when your computer sucks and youve been waiting for the game for a freakin long time. it has happened to me...but now i have a better computer that could kill al of yours just by turning on.

Syrel
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 7:09am
The system specs are not the only things to worry about.
if you computer meats specs then problems may be with other crap on your computer.
could be you need to update drivers.
or close down programs that will slow down your game.
things like ICQ and Real player as well as piles of other programs will mess with games becuase they are programed sloppy and take up more resources then they really need. (*note* things like this start when you boot up, unless you have gone out of your way to stop them from doing so they start up and then hide in the background taking up resources and slowing your computer down.)
close all things you don't need running when you play :)
this is usually the first thing tech support will tell you too.
set all graphix settings to fast mode.
defrag your hard drive
run scan disc

basicly clean up your PC from all the excess crap that most people have running.
the closer your Computer is to the actuelly min req specs the more likely simple things like cleaning your computer up will help.
Clear your desktop too cause if you have a pile of shortcuts on your desktop it WILL slow your computer down.
most people wont even notice the difference but if you are running on the edge of what is required then you may.
The OS you use also makes a difference.
Windows 98 and windows 2000 will run Neverwinter better then Windows Xp or Windows ME
because they handle memory better and have less GUI stuff messing around in the background.
Windows ME is a nightmare it has thousands of bugs and gliches and really doesn't manage ram at all.
Windows XP is not too bad if you configure it but as a default it will require alot more RAM and processer time as well as other resources.

Ragusa
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 10:08am
I agree, of course it is necessary to close down any programs running in your background - since a lot of them tend install themselves in the autostart. I always reduce the programs in the autostart to the anbsolute minimum, thanks to that my comp runs smooth and starts fast.

Izlude120
Thu, 4th Jul '02, 2:51pm
Same thing happened to me. All ya gata do is upgrade your video card driver. Just go to the video cards site. You can upgrade it and that will fix it mostly. Then get the patches set the right color and set all stuff to minimum. The game menu will run fast stuff will load fast but the game will lag. I just need more RAM and my comp would work fine. To bad I wont b allowed to upgrade my comps ROM.

Oh well just do this and you can play the game pretty good. My prosessor is realy fast so the areas load realy good and fast but its my dang RAM. Upgrade your video card driver to the latest version by a download and you will be good. The game will still lagg probley.

Gnolyn Lochbreaker
Thu, 4th Jul '02, 3:37pm
Hmmm....my PC is more than 3 years old now, although there have been some upgrades. NWN runs pretty well (other than a few slow downs) and I'm running it on a PII 350 MHz, 192 RAM, and an ATI Xpert 2000 video card. I didn't need to change any of the settings for NWN, and as I said, I haven't had any real problems.