All because it was not party based (amasing that 1 little thing pissed me off enough to play it for 30 seconds and then stop)

[ March 07, 2003, 19:09: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

You spent all that money on a game and then gave up with it after 30 seconds?

Geez, I struggled with Pool of Radiance for a day or two before the sheer naffness of it just made me throw it in the bin, and NWN is a masterpiece compared to that.

You realized that it was not party-based after playing only 30 seconds. Don't you ever read the game descriptions in the box or reviews in magazines, the internet, and game forums? ...Or is this just a big joke?

dont remember saying it bought it... heh played it at a friends, and no i didnt read reviews on it way back then... lets just say i have boycotted this game since they day it was released
and actually i prolly played for 20 mins before i figured it out

Actually it's not party based because it's meant to be a multiplayer game... you can play as a party like that. The single player story in NWN really bored me.. not even near BG2's quality, in any sense really.. I mean, BG2 even had more interesting graphics, which is quite impressive considering how old it is now. But it didn't have the multiplayer possibilities that NWN has. If you can find a good place to play this game online, with people who know how to roleplay and now just hack n slash, this game is brilliant, and very much party based.

Neverwinter Nights is the worst of all the D&D games in my opinion (except POR of course)
The IE games look better and the stories are better.
I dont play NWN anymore and probably never will.

I would imagine you'd find more people who have boycotted NWN on a different message board. One would think that the people who spend time here are the ones who actually *like* the game.

I agree with idoru. The games sngle plyer mode was kind of boring, but it has great mulitplayer
system. Especially if you are playing with people who know how to play role-play games. Also, if youlayd multiplayer and each person had a six person party it would get way too confusing.

I really tried to give NWN a chance thinking that the multiplayer would be really neat. But it wasnt, you can make wonderful modules and create amazing worlds and fill it with the best role players you can find and the superb DM's to go with it and the game is till boring. Why? A simple answer, the gameplay is just crappy, it is not fun. Battles are no fun, the magic are no fun, you cant interact at all with the world. NWN lacks in the most hard defined of game qualities, it just is not fun to play, no matter what you do with it.

Don't listen to joacqin, he's a confused jerk.

The multiplayer aspect of the game is pretty good, I just like the idea that there's now an endless supply of free content for the game, and I enjoy seeing some new and original mods coming out for the game. Some of it is pretty good, a lot of it is better than the stuff bioware actually makes.

About the gameplay itself, I don't mind it much, but I will concede... there's something wrong, something 'off' about the missle and spell system in the game. Most of the combat ends up right in your face, and it does sort of lead to a feeling of sameness throughout I think.

ArtEChoke, you forgot to insert the ;) at the end of your first sentence there! IMO Joacqin is right.

I agree the game just sucks I am in chapter 2 and only role playing I was able to do was "give more money" stuff. When compared to ransom quest in BG2 it really semms like a joke. Story should have been better. And like many other games, for evil alignment it is unfair

I bought it when it came out and have played it less than 5 hours.
It just didn't have the same feel as BG or BG2.
I had probs with my graphics card but relaced that soon after buying the game but just got so miffed off playing the game.
I played BG1, BG2 fully (with add ons) but just don't get the same feel for NMN.
I'll start it again sometime but just don't feel like it at the moment.

the multiplayer was aload of cobblers, they say wot a huge online envioroment it has, gezzz theres more peeps in the dm server in UT,, ok fair enough the multiplayer is fun , then a couple of hours l8er it sux , if you want a gud roleplaying online game then i suggest everquest, it should not even be a multiplayer, the single player is where the enjoyment is, well it was until they replaced bg with nwn, nwn has no single player enjoyment , and the multiplayer gets boring pretty quik to, wot a heap of **** that game was,,,,,,,,infact out of all the "let down" games there ever was, nwn has to be the biggest let down ever.

If you keep writing like that you'll have a mod breathing down your neck in no time.

NWN is all about multiplayer.. unfortunately multiplayer is all about who you play with. I wouldn't recommend any of the public servers on Gamespy.. but if you're into more serious roleplaying, try alandfaraway.net.

The multiplayer side of things has never really interested me much but I think a good game should function perfectly well both as single and multiplayer. I've played the single player version of BG1 & 2 and loved them both but the single player in NWN was just downright tedious from start to finish.

And Silke? For crying out loud, buy yourself a dictionary before you post here again. I could spell better when I was in nursery school.

Heaven forbid. I played the original NWN back when it came out in 91 all the way up till it closed in 97.

That was what I thought was the greatest part of the game. You get to control a Single character (you, as if you played D&D), and you interacted with other characters.

This game is to recreate playing regular D&D Games just on the computer.

Since I know people move around, and can't play with their friends. So one if them creats their world, and invites their friends to play... and you are set to play the game. With your character, and personality for that character... instead of trying it with many characters.

I currently play on the NWN:R (which is the Never winters Nights: resurection (recreation of the original NWN)

http://www.nwnserver.net/

You all must remember that the game is a multiplayer game. The 'single player' is essentially demostrating what you can do with the toolset.

Sure, the single player is boring. Designed by committee. I gave up playing the game through boredom.

Then I got around to trying some of the modules I'd downloaded. Shadowlords - I couldn't stop playing. Good story, good npc characters.

I agree the combat and spell casting gets a little boring (that's the inevitable problem of having a visual version of a game that whose magic is all about the imagination) but try some of the modules - especially Shadowlords - it's not designed by committee, it felt like I was playing a friend's pen and paper D and D dungeon, except on the computer. Cool.

BG1 and 2 were good - but you guys who claim to have played all the expansions all the way through etc????? You really telling me you didn't get bored.....???? Or do you really not have lives outside the PC?

both neverwinter and pool radiance are worst d&d game...but i like nverwinter's innovations...

BG1 and 2 were good - but you guys who claim to have played all the expansions all the way through etc????? You really telling me you didn't get bored.....???? Or do you really not have lives outside the PC? I've finished BG2 four times now and never get bored with it. In fact, I'm itching to have another go at it even as I type this. Whereas I was bored with NWN before I'd even finished it the first time and I've never really felt tempted to have another go.

And of course we don't have lives outside the PC. I was born with mine attached to my left hip.

Actually I like the singleplayer campaign, but the multiplayer is boring.

I like the game. Finished single player a while ago. The only party you can make is with you and your henchman. Thats a little bad. Its a small party. Exept that the game is great

I am just getting tired of updating the damn thing every time i turned around.I only had to install 1 patch for the BG2 series. And when i went online ot play you had to have the exact version to paly enaough already of the damn updates.

I really liked the game. Imo it was fun, the game has a nice story and cool spells( one of the most important aspects of a game for a mage-loving-boy like me :D ) .But I agree with Kris, that the henchmen system was terrible.

I recently bought this game. It's a bit late, but what can you do? I picked it up and figured I'd give it a go considering it was relatively cheap since coming out. I've played through the Single Player and actually enjoyed it. I think the problem that a lot of people have is that the game is a bit too much like D&D tabletop. They are used to the somewhat simpler version involved in Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale. I liked both of those series' as well, but this one has really stuck on me. I think the biggest boon for a D&D PC game is that it should have the ability to customize, and you can definitely do that with the editor. In addition, there are a lot of people who were very upset about the 20 level cap and all of that. Well, for most tabletop games, you'll be meeting dragons and the like as early as 10th level and sometimes into 17 or later. It's just not likely that a game (a true D&D tabletop game) will go over 20 levels. It's possible of course, but most games are played well at or below 20 levels. For NWN's level system, the only downside is the level-up setting toward the beginning of the game. It's not likely that killing a few monsters and then talking to some guy in a room will put you to your next level. Regardless of all of that, as far as the level cap is concerned, think about this: Elminster, easily one of the most powerful humans on the face of Faerun is a total level of 35. Ftr1/Rog2/Clr3/Wiz20/Acm5/Epic4. Also, he's been around a long time and is very closely tied with Mystra. Now ... if you think your characters should reach level 30 or 40 in the amount of time it would take to play NWN or any other D&D game or campaign, you've got some problems.

Oh, and for those of you mentioning Pool of Radiance, I have this to say: you're pretty much right. The problems with POR were too numerous to count. 1: no story, just hack-and-slash (get Diablo II for that. It's actually quite good) it cut out an entire standard race of beings and a class including that classes specialty settings. There were other problems, but you can't get too upset, they were simply riding on the shirt-tails of D&D games that had done well recently. I think they removed the wizard class because it would have been too difficult to create scrolls and have the programmers they were paying $100 an hour to write a program that randomly inserted them in various level-specific areas in the game. Gee. That would have been hard.

Anyway, enjoy playing NWN if you like it. If you don't, then don't play it. It's a cool game, worth the money, and if you have D&D friends, play this online with them in a campaign of your choosing.