I think the next RPG Black Isle should make is a football hooligan RPG, with leagues spanning England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Experience points would be gained by how much time you spend in the slammer.
Now where's my +1 smashed beer bottle?

I think they should make an RPG that takes place in the world of Blade Runner. (An awesome movie.) And I realize that a game called Blade Runner has been made, but that was an adventure game, I want a game where you can choose what path to follow, where you don't have to do something only one way or you fail.

I've just thought of more ideas for my RPG. Character classes would be Liverpool, Man utd (the stupid soft arses), The firm, etc etc depending which leauge your in. Race would be English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh. Special abilities would be stuff like 'start chant', 'consume lots of booze without getting plastered' and 'shout lots at the ref'. AND, clubs with rivalries like Liverpool/Everton, Blackburn/Preston and Celtic/Rangers would attack each other instantly and go into beserker mode and follow D&D rules accordingly. Locations would be all the major stadiums in England and Scotland and Ireland, but not Wales because it is too small and pointless.

Oh, and Blade Runner IS a wicked film.

Is it just me or does anyone else think that soccer is the most boring game in the world? Maybe if the field wasn't so dam big, the players wouldn't get tired from all that running and be able to score more than 1 goal a game.
I'm sorry Hooligan, you are obviously very passionate about soccer, and it's mean for me to poke fun at it :(

Anyway, I would love to see a "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy role playing game. :D Douglas Adams is apparently pretty computer-savvy, and I always thought a game based on the series would be great. It has been far too long since the infocom text game...

Hey, everyone in the entire British Isles is passionate about Football. And I don't mind you poking fun at it. I poke fun at Americain football on a regular basis, just not on this forum.

Okay, first my dislaimer. If your easily offended don't read this. Its politically incorrect and will likely piss some people off.

Instead of an RPG they should make a first person shooter. Your the high school nerd and you've had it. You load up your handguns and M-16's and head to school to deal some revenge. Five points for every student, ten per teacher, fifteen for cheerleaders and jocks, and a whopping 30 for the captain of the football team.

i gotta agree w/ Lord B., soccer tends to bore me. i love hockey, but it can get boring do to low scoring as well. At least there is body checking and fighting to make up for the lack of scoring. maybe they should implement fighting into soccer, but i mean between the players and not the fans.

A game based on Isaac Asimov's Foundation series of books!

There is fighting in football! Didn't you watch that Man City/Derby County game??!
Good Christ! And Millwall! Phssheessh! They must be the most violent team out there. There's Vinnie Jones (aka Big Chris in Lock, Stock..), and any Sunday League Pub games are just bloodbaths.
And football is no way boring. I mean watching it on TV CAN get boring, but on the radio or if your at the game the buzz is amazing. Your with about 75 000 people who are thinking in the same mindset as you. I suppose Americans don't find it that interesting because they don't follow football the REAL way it should be played. The ENGLISH WAY! With fish and chips and curry and beer afterwards.

So in other words, the beer and curry go straight to your brain and fool you into thinking your having a good time?

Sounds like American Football!! (substitute nachos with jalapenos for curry)

First of all, soccer is a great game, and I've played it in leagues since I was 4 or 5, but never would I even thing of buying a combination sports/RPG game. The two are in no way related or possibly can be related into any sort of game that isn't campy beyond any playing value whatsoever.
I'd love to see something based on Asimov's Foundation series, but I don't see it happening. The FR and other games can be based on a book world because those book world are more based on the common theme of geography, while Asimov's Foundation books are a solid plot line series with nothing unrealevent to the plot, thus not much outside the written books to work with. I mean, look at the Wheel of Time game. Ilove Robert Jordan's series, but I didn't even consider wasting my time and money on the game, and from the look of how quickly stores took it off the exciting new releases area if not stopped selling it all together, I'm not the only one

It's not 'soccer' it's FOOTBALL! Damn it!
Also, the game isn't a sport/RPG it's just an RPG. Hooliganism isn't a sport, it's an art form. At least in England it is.

Dark Phoenix,
As I recall, Raymond Fiest's Krondor books were pretty much the same thing (solid plot line-wise), but they made two games out of them and they were pretty decent.

Er, I'm trying to think of another good game based on a book or series of books, and can't really think of anything. I guess the Krondor games are the odd exception.
I played a little bit of Wheel of Time and wan't too impressed. Never read the books though.

You should read them Lord Balduran... they are GREAT, really excellent !
Although I'm not sure if they'll ever end...
:D

I like hooligan_inc's idea for an RPG. I think that a humorous RPG would be good. Fortunately we're getting something similar to that in Escape From Monkey Island. Ok, ok so it's not realy an RPG, but it will be cool anyways.

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Mike Myers is a Liverpool fan as well, doncha know?

hooligan_inc, i must have missed that match. i see you have one example of a 'football' fight. you probably can come up w/ a few more, and i am sure fights between players could be real interesting, seeing as they dont really wear pads of any sort.

fights happen all the time during hockey games, so it is tough to remember them all....hmmmm, was the best one that hour long bench clearing brawl during a Chicago Blawkhawks game, or the time when Chris Chelios(w/ the Blackhawks @ the time) pounded the sh@# out of one guy, then dragged a referee across the ice to pound the sh@# out of another. he got suspended for a couple of games after that one.

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As a Canadian, I feel that it is my duty to state that Hockey fights are of course the best. Hockey fights are really an integral part of the game whereas in soccer it is merely an interesting aside. :D

Hands up who's seen that Man city/Derby county game? No-one? Thought so.

The vast amounts of fights in hockey is probably why theu wear all that protection. Gunthar, which team is the most violent? Over here in football it's Wimbledon.

Yes the Hooligan man's idea is cool. The Scottish fans' special ability would be charm gorgeous police women. But that's a different story... And it's football not soccer!!!!!And I find it very boring to watch, so boring I only ever play it these days. And it's the sport with the most violence associated with it.
Remember, football, not soccer. And the sport Americans call football is rugby for people who're afraid to get hurt. All that bloody armour indeed!

Testify!!!!!!!!!!!

yea Vermillion, when you make 1.5 million dollars a year, a hang nial can side line you for the season.

for hooligans idea, u'de have to have "turkish Fans", +1 backstabbing, and +1 vs English fans, right?

I take it you mean nail. Okay, in case you haven't noticed I occasionaly like winding people up. Although why is American football called football? The ball's hardly ever touched by a players foot.

yeah i mean nail, thanks. the only thing that comes to mind is this; the only way to begin an "American Football" game is to have a kickoff, one team Kicks the ball to the other.
what i want to know is why Americans refer to football as soccer.

I've been thinking for some time now about a game involving one board.

Sounds boring now, don't it?

However, it would kind of be based on the Thief idea, and involve ideas from the Raymond Feist series. Imagine this, your in a thieves' guild, and you've got a city to plunder. The game would evolve as thievery would occur (set in modern day, fantasy, whatever). The more you thieved, the better you'd get at it, until you take control of the guild itself. If you survive that long.

It would take years to do this, design a full sized city, and the AI to accompany it.

I dunno, now that I write about it, it kinda sounds dumb.

Sapiryl, have you ever heard of PC games Thief (1 & 2) ? It's not exactly what you had in mind, but it would be a good start. Throw your ideas in and you have Thief 3. Unfortunately, the Developer (Looking Glass) went swirling down the spout recently. BUT the game is said to have some nice level editors, and some very cool user created levels. I'm not sure if it's detailed enough for you, since you seem to be talking about a "go anywhere, do anything" type game, but hey why not give it a shot.

BIS couldnt make a new rpg if it hit them in the face. All they did was use biowares engine. You apprentices arent that smart for people who post a 100 posts. BIOWARE RULES! And yes they did make BG, TOTSC, and they are the ones making the awesome game called BG2. All BIS was publish it.

You know Wizard_IV, you're really beginning to piss me off. So shut up about us sucking or you being the master dragonslayer on a different board!

Y'know Egg, I've got a friend called Mr. Clubby we might want to introduce that guy to....
He lives up to his name....

I apologize, I did mention the game "Thief", but not in a way that could easily be noticed. Sorry "Thief" fans, but I did not enjoy the games. I liked the concept, but they just weren't my type.

My least favorite game is "Alpha Centauri".
Way too steep.

yeah *wizard* how the hell u showed up again pissing people off? hehe coz the sorcerer himself cut short the thread eh?(in the BG2 section i think) were all mature people here and we expect each and evryone to treat all the rest as such, including you.

hey, is that a fireball forming up in ur hand? hehe have a nyc day!

or even instead of Drizzt you could have Rinaldo with Golden Football Boots of Leg Breaking +5vs any team lead by Sir Alex Ferguson +2to any English Player.

Seriously, I think a good one would be in the forgotten realms where you are the elminster and go through life becoming a really powerful mage, no party members and less creation options, have it like torment, where you don't decide what you are, but you can change status SLIGHTLY at points in the game to make you more fighter/theif/mage/toilet cleaner but always leads to being an all powerful mage, each chapter is a (loosely) continious story and sometimes skips a few years and points towards 1 final task to complete it and you turn into the old guy with the stupid hat, that would be cool, have the entire of Faerûn to travel in, and see the beggining of some major things and meet people who would be alive in the life of elminster (like balduran i think would of been) and see the begginings of empires and stuff like that (amn) going all the way through until at the end you meet the people you are in the BG games.

-Sep

ummm..........no

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I still think the one about the hooligans was good...

Maybe one starring Boo...Minsc and Dynaheir can be NPCs.

I would like to see like a futurastic RPG like Deus Ex

Hmmm....

I know there are differences between the English that is spoken througout the U.K. The differences are even more pronounced in American areas.(Canada, US)

I'm just wondering, what does the term 'soccer' mean in the U.K.? And what do you call the American game that involves the ole pigskin?

Anybody read Terry Pratchet? The Bioware Engine could make a pretty good job of Ankh Morpork, Unseen University etc and you could have the Watch etc as NPCs. When you snuff it Death shows up and speaks to you IN CAPITAL LETTERS

With book tie ins they'd probably make a mint!

Soccer, at least to me, is European football.

"Football" to me is American football, although when I think about it, the US version has nothing to do with "feet" so maybe we should rename it.

If you said 'sooccer' in England, you would come accross as a commplete twat or a politician. Or a newscaster.