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The Fat Egg
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 5:44pm
what is your favorite philosophical or poetic quote? mine was from Hegel, after a heated debate about whether or not god exists Hegel went outside and looked up and said "no, god cannot exist, for no single being can create such wonder and beauty"

Sir Belisarius
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 6:32pm
"Do...Or do not. There is no try."
~Yoda

"Fall seven times, Stand up eight."
~Old Chinese Proverb?

It is not the critic who counts. Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings, who know the Great Devotion, who, at best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails while daring greatly, knows his place will never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
~Teddy Roosevelt, 26th US President



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Blackthorne TA
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 6:55pm
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Science fiction is no more written for scientists that ghost stories are written for ghosts.

The intensity of a conviction that a hypothesis is true has no bearing over whether it is true or not.

It is inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians.

Scientists tell us the universe is made up of protons, electrons, and neutrons. They forgot to mention morons.

Darien Noella
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 7:14pm
BTA- lol I especially love the 4th one. Only whoever said it forgot to mention lawyers ... :D

Duskai
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 7:20pm
DESIDERATA

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what
peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly & clearly:
and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant: they too have their
story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the
spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain &
bitter; for there will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep
interested in your own career however humble; it is a real possession in
the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs
for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what
virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life
is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection
Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and
disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel
of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to sheild you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of
fatique & lonliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe; no less than the trees and the stars
you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you no
doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with
God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours &
aspirations; in the noisy confusions of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drugery and broken dreams it is still a beautiful
world. Be careful. Strive to be happy.

Duskai
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 7:24pm
slightly more than a quote but i thought i'd share it as it has comforted me on more than one occasion :)

Wingfoot
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 10:03pm
'Black and blue cloth and civilization are destined, not only to veil, but obliterate the grace and beauty of Nature.' - George Catlin in the early 1830's while researching Native Amercican culture.

Fatmaka
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 10:20pm
"Drinkin' 's 4 da bad guys"


and also "good boys are going to heaven,bad boys are choosin' where to go"

Like me...


Dismissed!

Divine Shadow
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 10:37pm
I think Storm P. was a genius. Is he known outside Denmark?

Taluntain
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 10:51pm
My all time favourite quotes:

"Peace is only a short period between two wars" (unknown)

"There are only two things in existence that are infinite. The universe, and human stupidity. But I'm not entirely sure about the first one." (Einstein)

The Fat Egg
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 11:15pm
one of my favorite poems:

For you alone, enchanting beauties,
Queens of my spirit, for your sake
Did I convert to scribal duties
Some golden leisure hours, and make,
To whispering of garrulous ages,
Once-upon-a-time my faithful task.
Accept them, then, these playful pages;
And no one's praises do I ask
From fate, but shall be pleased to thank it
If one young girl should love, and pine
And peep, perhaps beneath her blanket,
At these unshriven songs of mine.

-Alexander Pushkin

Something kind of like Taluntain's;

"Peace begats fighting, and fighting begats peace" -Unknown

Blackthorne TA
Fri, 9th Feb '01, 11:21pm
To the man who only has a hammer in the toolkit, every problem looks like a nail.

An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less, until eventually he knows everything about nothing.

Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right.

Vile
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 3:41am
"Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

-Mark Twain

Shura
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 10:34am
'Get kicked not in the anus...cos it hurts like hell.'
Ancient Chinese Proverb.
:D :D :D :D

Taluntain
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 10:53am
How about "Ye shall not post ********, or ye will feel the cleansing fire of Tal's fireballs?"

-ancient Sorcerer's Place proverb

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Lord Bane
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 12:19pm
Very nice, Duskai, and very true.

But of course no match for the legendary wisdom of George W. Bush : if we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

And that man's the President of the worlds most powerful country..

Lo
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 3:10pm
Apparently there's a book of Bushisms coming out :)

One of my favorite quotes of all time, a little bit overused at times, but still:

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,"--that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know. Ode on a Grecian Urn
John Keats

Duskai
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 7:31pm
what is this life
if full of care
we have no time
to stand and stare

Vandalore
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 7:48pm
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

-Jim Elliot

Satiana Fearbringer
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 8:43pm
The happiest life is that which constantly exercises and educates what is best in us.
-- Hamerton

Were there but one virtuous man in the world, he would hold up his head with conficence, and honor; he would shame the world, and not the world him.
-- South

He that loseth wealth, loseth much; he that loseth friends, loseth more; but he who loseth his spirit loseth all.
-- Spanish Maxim
Time will discover everything to posterity; it is a babbler, and speaks even when no question is put.
-- Euripides


The only true knowledge of our fellowman is that which enables us to feel with him---which gives us a fine ear for the heart-pulses that are beating under the mere clothes of circumstance and opinion.
-- George Eliot

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Vile
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 10:32pm
Intelligence is knowedge. Wisdom is knowing when to use it. Speak little, speak wisely.

-Me

Not the greatest quote I've come up with, but it's good to live by.

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Sir Belisarius
Sat, 10th Feb '01, 11:26pm
Such a learned group here...All kinds of wisdom!

The Fat Egg - Pushkin Rocks! I met the sculptor of the Pushkin statue outside the Ruskii Musee (I have to get the cyrillic keys working on this pc!) in St. Petersburg -Michail Anikushin when I was there in 1992.

I've only read the bronze horseman in Russian...But I've read Eugene Onegan as well. Can you tell I kinda miss visiting Russia?

Sapiryl
Sun, 11th Feb '01, 5:59am
"Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool."

"Which is more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?"

"Man who live in glass house should dress in basement." - Confusious or Confus...ed?

"Quitters never win. Winners never quit. But those who never win and never quit, are idiots."

The Wise, The Grey
Sun, 11th Feb '01, 8:23am
Denying your ignorance is, ironically, one of the most ignorant things you can do.

That's one of my own. Humbling

There's a band called The Tragically Hip, lyrics to a song are as follows...

Violins and tamborines
and this is what we think they mean
It's hard to say, it's sad, but true
I'm kinda dumb and - so are you

Sniper
Sun, 11th Feb '01, 12:46pm
It is better to have loved that lost then to have never loved at all

Darien Noella
Sun, 11th Feb '01, 3:17pm
Cheers to that, Sniper!! :(

Silroth
Sun, 11th Feb '01, 6:16pm
Paladins handbook:
The best way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.

Vile
Sun, 11th Feb '01, 7:30pm
I have no comment on that one Sniper

The Wise, The Grey
Mon, 12th Feb '01, 6:31am
How utterly profound...


...sniff sniff...

Seems like the ol' sarcasm's back.

Modjahed
Mon, 12th Feb '01, 11:03am
Here are the two things that I believe are true in life (being as pragmatic as I am):

"Do not judge and you will not be judged"

"Life is a long jump from the c..t to the grave"

Oops, did I really type the last one?

Sir Belisarius
Mon, 12th Feb '01, 12:49pm
No matter where you go...There you are.

~Buckaroo Banzai
An oldie, but a goodie!

Sylvus Moonbow
Mon, 12th Feb '01, 1:56pm
"Never judge a book by its cover"

"Spare no exspense when it comes to yourself"

Hark! A willow tree sways in the breeze as butterflies flutter on past the fields of blooming flowers. The suns rays beam down towards the land spreading her blanket of life to all. In the distance, a rainbow begins to form above a frolicking, named man who's fingers touch the very fabric of life. The flowers, the bumblebees as he runs naked through the fields, skipping and singing a forgotten tune. He pauses, bends down and lets one rip -

"A fart is the sharpest thing in the world. It cuts through fabric and never makes a hole."

"Grass doesn't grow on a pig"

"Papa-Smurf, are we there yet?"

Syl...

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Sniper
Mon, 12th Feb '01, 8:19pm
Well wouldn't you rather experience love rather then be cold and empty?

Sapiryl
Mon, 12th Feb '01, 8:38pm
No, I'd rather feel warm and fuzzy.

Like a baked kiwi.

The Fat Egg
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 3:24am
Yeah, I think Pushkin rocks too, sorry i took so long to reply.

Shura
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 8:25am
'My ass...ON FIRE!!'
-My friend Derryn.

Lo
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 11:23am
Pushkin rocks, ñëûøàë áû îí âàñ, ãîñïîäà :)

Modjahed
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 6:37pm
Êóäà èì äî êðàñîòû âåëèêîãî è ìîãó÷åãî... ìàòü åãî ðàçýòàê :D

Sir Belisarius
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 6:51pm
Cant' read...Is this russian? It's coming up as something weird on my screen!

Sniper
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 8:17pm
Pushkin?

The Amazing Ooopah
Tue, 13th Feb '01, 8:17pm
"Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused"

- some random person off Napster (RIP)

The Fat Egg
Wed, 14th Feb '01, 4:28am
that most certainly isn't russian. it's coming up really strange on my screen too, what is it?

Modjahed
Wed, 14th Feb '01, 9:30am
It IS russian. When I typed that is showed normally. However, it shows crap now. Maybe it is some bug with the encoding.

Yep, just figured it out. Sir Bel and eggman :D just go to the encoding parameter of your browser and set it to Cyrillic "Windows-1251". Worked for me. :D

Silroth
Wed, 14th Feb '01, 10:14am
OK, Modjahed, I can now read it, but my russion is too long gone and faded, for me to still understand it. So please (with sugar coating): translate the damn thing!
(and yes, it had better be worth reading, for all the trouble).

Darien Noella
Wed, 14th Feb '01, 1:21pm
LOL!!

Lo
Wed, 14th Feb '01, 4:27pm
LOL yeah, setting the encoding to Cyrrilic (Windows) or 1251 should solve the problems, for those who can read cyrrilic. Sorry for doing this to u people, it was just too funny to read that "Pushkin rocks".

For those who wonder who in the hell this Pusking guy is, he's one of the greatest Russian romantic poets of all time. Has a really kewl bio too, for those who's interested :) Basically English slang and Russian poetry don't mix very well, kinda like that "Jesus was so cool" song. A very entartaining combination to a tuned ear :)

If u care to read Puskin in English Fat Egg and I had posted couple of his poems on the board, well doh, if u reading this thread :) Mine was in the country section though...

If u care to read more, u can find him on the web, if u can't but really really want to I can post some links. Better yet learn Russian and read the original :D As a bonus u'll apreciate the difference between cryptic and cyrrilic.

herf
Fri, 16th Feb '01, 12:07am
i have quite a few so stick with me...

"its just one of those days when you dont wanna wake up,
everyhting is ****ed, everybody sucks,
you dont really know why, but you wanna justify, rippin someones head off"
-LIMP BIZKIT

"every man has his own rules and morals, try to respect them"
-ME

"fashion your tactics until they are like water, for as water runs form high places downwards, so must a fighter avoid his opponents strength and strike at his weakness. that fighter is invincible who shapes his tactics to his enemy"
-SUN TZU, CHINESE MILITARY STRATEGIST

"when posible gain victory by imposing your will on the enemy or by breaking his spirit. do not place a premium on killing. atack the enemys mind. destroy his will to resist."
-SUN TZU, CHINESE MILITARY STRATEGIST

"live by chance, love by choice, kill by preference."
-MARC OLDEN

"the object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his!"
-GEORGE S. PATTON

"just because you are paranoid doesnt mean they are not after you"
-KURT COBAIN

"i'd rather be dead than cool"
"i hate myself and want to die"
vandalism is as beautiful as a rock in a teachers face"
-KURT COBAIN

nuff said....

Sol'Kanar
Mon, 19th Feb '01, 8:38am
“Do you see those eyes watching you from the shadows of your nightmares? Those eyes are mine.”

-Artemis Entreri,

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Satiana Fearbringer
Thu, 22nd Feb '01, 4:57pm
The one I like the best.


It is not what you SAY, but what was HEARD.
It is not what you SHOW, but what was SEEN.
It is not what you MEANT, but what was UNDERSTOOD.

PERCEPTION IS REALITY!

Silroth
Thu, 22nd Feb '01, 5:13pm
Is that a quote from the illusionists handbook? ;)?

BogiTheWaverer
Fri, 23rd Feb '01, 8:39am
"42"
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