View Full Version : Father and son drown trying to drown dog


Jesper898
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 4:29am
http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1203/113315.html


Hah! Seems like karma gave that guy a swift kick in the ass.

I'm glad the dog is ok :)

Dragonfly
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 5:57am
I'm glad the dog is ok too. I hate it when people get a pet and then throw it away when they feel it is no longer useful or "cute".

Blackhawk
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 8:35am
I love when wicked people die due to their own depravity!

I hope they both suffered.

Loerand
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 5:32pm
The good forces have once again claimed victory.

Blahh Shura ;)

Wordplay
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 8:19pm
What did we learn from this? Peering = slipping =>> no peering at anything from now on.

Nasty death; drowned to all kinds of crap... Almost the same as flushing down a gerbil from a toilet.

Shura
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 9:34pm
These fools can't be called evil.

They're too stupid to qualify.

:p :p

Besides, I wouldn't drown puppies or kittens. That's so amateurish. I'd be drowning human babies...while they're still in the wombs of their mothers! :evil:

Malovae
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 11:03pm
They are probably 'goblinoid' type evil. :p

Mithrantir
Sat, 3rd Jan '04, 11:15pm
Everything sometimes is being paid here.
And for some people this fits nicely.
Police say the son and his cousin were trying to drown their pit bull, because the dog was old and wouldn't fight anymore. Before drowning the dog, the son fell in and the cousin ran for help.

Mollusken
Sun, 4th Jan '04, 12:52am
If that had happened in Norway, the dog would have been shot by the police afterwards anyway :p .

Loerand
Sun, 4th Jan '04, 9:11pm
:D @ Mollusken, yeah I know...

Wordplay
Sun, 4th Jan '04, 9:54pm
@ Mollusken

Policemen don't shoot; they first call 10:1 backup and then start whacking. That's what they did to to some unfortunate birds that had dared to poo to a wrong place. :shake:

Um... to stay on topic... Nasty. :D

Ahrontil
Mon, 5th Jan '04, 11:44am
It sounds very suspicious.

The father, who obviously couldn't swim, dived into a pit of oily water to save his son.

Regardless of the reason that he could not climb back out, those are still good and selfless actions. Would such a man condone his son participating in dog-fighting?

If the dog was old, then the family could maybe have owned the animal since the boy was five years old. After such a long association why would the boy subject the dog to such a traumatic death?

It does not cost much to have an old dog peacefully put-down by a vet. Middle-aged grehounds that can no longer race are disposed off in this way, as are overly aggressive dogs. The dog pound for local strays would probably do the job for free.

It must have been almost impossibe to haul large objects from the pit. So why use such a pit to drown the dog? If the rotting carcass could not be lifted back out of the water it would have floated on the surface for weeks. Every child in the locality would have seen or smelt it, and reported back to their parents about it as children do.

Why peer into the pit? Why be careless when standing at the edge? Why suddenly lose your sense of balance at that specific point in time? The boy was eighteen, not eight. Eighteen-year-old boys drive cars and fight wars. They know how (and when) to keep themselves out of harms way.

No. I don't believe the cousin's story.

If I had pushed the boy into the pit as a joke; If I had watched him drown, and then watched his father drown as he tried to save the boy, I would make up some story to deflect the blame away from myself.

It instinctively would be a story that painted the drowned boy in such a poor light, that his death would not only become his fault, but that he would have had it coming all along.

If it was made out that the boy drowned whilst carrying out an evil act then no one would stand up for him. No one would feel sorry enough for the drowned father and son to try and find out what really happened to them.

The best lies are built on a grain of truth. Maybe the dog had a bad temperament. Maybe it had attacked other dogs, and the boy had been pleased that he had owned the top-dog in the locality. Maybe the dog was entered in organised dog-fights. So what?

If someone accidently kills me through stupidity or carelessness, I don't want them to be able to use the fact that I did something bad once as a reason for due process to be ignored.

The cousin should be hooked up to a reliable lie detector, and the course of events behind how the father and son died should be settled conclusively, if for no other reason than to ensure that they do not go to their graves unjustly labelled for all time as evil men.

[ January 05, 2004, 14:10: Message edited by: Bluin ]

Rallymama
Mon, 5th Jan '04, 2:33pm
Bluin, you're too suspicious for your own good. It's common knowledge among safety professional that water rescues are among the most tricky. Quite often, well-meaning bystanders become additional victims by trying to help without really knowing what they're doing. There's a story (NOT apocryphal - I read this is a safety-training publication) about a whole family in some poor Latin American country that drowned trying to rescue their chicken when it fell into a fast-moving stream. Five people died, but the chicken lived. :(

Also, regarding the holes you found in the tale, remember that this article is the transcript of a TV news broadcast. They had no more than 90 seconds to sum up the story - they're going to edit out the kind of details you're looking for.

Gothmog•
Mon, 5th Jan '04, 3:03pm
LOL
5 people die trying to save a chicken who survived the whole thing anyway :aaa: :mommy:

As for that boy... he deserved it. *shrugs* At least he'd put the dog down in some other - quicker way instead of drowning in a pit. :o

Victor Eremita
Mon, 5th Jan '04, 7:16pm
"The Early Purges"
from Death of a Naturalist

I was six when I first saw kittens drown.
Dan Taggart pitched them, 'the scraggy wee ****s',
Into a bucket; a frail metal sound,

Soft paws scraping like mad. But their tiny din
Was soon soused. They were slung on the snout
Of the pump and the water pumped in.

'Sure, isn't it better for them now?' Dan said.
Like wet gloves they bobbed and shone till he sluiced
Them out on the dunghill, glossy and dead.

Suddenly frightened, for days I sadly hung
Round the yard, watching the three sogged remains
Turn mealy and crisp as old summer dung

Until I forgot them. But the fear came back
When Dan trapped big rats, snared rabbits, shot crows
Or, with a sickening tug, pulled old hens' necks.

Still, living displaces false sentiments
And now, when shrill pups are prodded to drown
I just shrug, 'Bloody pups'. It makes sense:

'Prevention of cruelty' talk cuts ice in town
Where they consider death unnatural
But on well-run farms pests have to be kept down.

Seamus Heaney

Just a thought...

EDIT: The **** word aren't meant to be censored out.

Manus
Tue, 6th Jan '04, 10:44am
That is pitiful. As a child I lived on a farm, and I still have close relatives who do, and I can tell you, none of that makes sense to me.

Death may be natural. But to kill for your own simple convience or mere slight comfort is a disgrace. What gives us this right?

Oh I forgot. We are more important than everything else. Oh of course, how stupid of me :rolleyes: