Whats your favorite punk band? Mine are Sum 41 and Blink 182.

Forgive me, but is Blink182 a band with punk mentality? Punk is Sex pistols, Ramones, Iggy Pop and the stooges, or mybe Rancid from the newer ones.
Punk's not dead?!

Erm... Sum 41 is *not* punk...

I think that Sum 41 is just another boring guitar-pop band from the USA like Blink 182 with some punk effects. Am I right?

I believe they're labelling Sum 41 and Blink 182 as punk rock, not as punk; there's a difference between the two.
And anyway, to stay on topic: Propaghandi, At the Drive-in and The (International) Noise Conspiracy are very good punk bands. Millencolin and The Get Up kids are my favourites in the punk rock scene, much better than anything Blink182 or Sum41 has ever released anyway.

I'll kick it oldskool: Sex Pistols!!!

first my sister is a total idiot when it comes to music (she used to think smash-mouth was alternative) and secondly i have to say that the term punk is used so widely that the term defines the music from the very light (ska, i.e. planet-smashers) to the very hard and fast (ive seen some idiots try to claim slipknot was a punk band at some point) i generally like to claim the harder though distincly not metal music type i.e pennywise is punk , and everything else is to be considered pop-punk green-day (what happened to them? Nimorod was the only punk album they made) however im more of an expert on terms and defintions then actual bands (at-the-drive-ins is a great band under every circumstnaces however) . but personally i like the hardest of hard, chimaira, carcass, and older slipknot (i thought their new album was very near crap)

on a secondary note: many "punk" bands that are classified as punk aren't really punk and vice-versa, non-punk bands being classified as punk. i think i very nice case of this is the band system of a down, where they deviate so much from the term now that they should create a new genre

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Ok I'm about to blow!:flaming: Ok I'm taking it that all the people who posted are from a country other then the USA. I'm not dissing any of you looking for a fight and I'm not about to start something. But, Blink 182 is a big punk band here. BIG. Sum 41 is very big here too. I dont know any one who doesnt know listen to Sum 41. And who are the Sex Pistols??? Well my friend is here and she wants to say something to you too.

PuNkGuRl: To everybody who dissed Sum 41 and Blink 182- SCREW YOU! Cuz obviously you have no idea what good, fun music is...:) have a nice day.

(She said that not me, so dont be dissing on me!)

There's still punk out there. I don't remember where it changed from punk to punk rock. It seems like everything after Rancid took a more rockish type of feel to it. Nothing wrong with it. I like both styles personally. I went through highschool listening to Rancid. There still cool in my books. I'm glad to see others try to carry on the presence of punk (either thru the music or style), even though it's quite different.

What blows my mind are the punk rock rappers. It's like everyone is trying it out. The stuff is more melodic these days. It's not as raw as it used to be.

Oh for heaven's sake, Dragonrider: Blink 182 and Pennywise are not punk. (Kisses to your friend.) I had heard "*** Authority" on the radio the other day and I was so depressed I had to go out and buy London Calling for my son. So I'm talking to the guy behind the counter, who assured me that the youth of today don't *ALL* think manufactured pap is subversive. So hopeful was I that I drove down there the next day and gave him all my old 45's -- Minor Threat, Subhumans, Crass...
He was very surprised.
Your unfortunate friend's point is taken, however, D. Being a purist is not Punk. I just hope that "punk" still means agressive music with words attacking societal norms -- because I know a Pepsi commercial when I hear one.

I AM the Us. Blink 182 and sum 41, are musicly male oriented on a "Fun Love me Pop" type fairly land. BUT I do not believe they have what it takes to go head to head with the punk of even ten years ago.
I respect music. I NEVER like to hear arguments over music. It is SO VERY powerful towards our species. PLEASE we need to understand that the music industry has TOO much power over us, because music is SO very powerful! PLEASE if you want to be true punk, download and trade!!! Destroy the music industry with patients and focus. They do not deserve to own that part of our souls that feel music. I know the need for money is strong, BUT they can make just as much if they play live. They just gotta get out of the studio and out of marketing's influence.

Oh, i hate the **** that calls itself punk now adays.

lol DragonRider SkyWard!!
who are the sex pistols!!?? they are the freakin' epitome of punk! Ever heard of Sid Vicious?
My god. Punk originated from Britan in the 70s man. And was more of attitude than anything. The Sex Pistols brought this out more than any other. Sid Vicious was a alcoholic druggie who couldnt play for nuts but was the centre of attraction in the band because of his ATTITUDE towards control. that is what a punk band is. Blink 182, Green Day, the like are not punk bands. they are rock or pop bands who play music in the style of punk. Picking up the musical traits of the old punk bands but little of the attitude.
If Metallica starts playing some country songs would you call them a country band? F**k no. If beethovan started banging For whom the bell tolls on his piano would you call him a metalhead? F**k no. If some money making band comes forward with some catchy tunes in the style of punk should we call them a punk band? I say F**k no.

Oh, Shah, it's *fun* to argue about music -- or anything, really -- with smart people.

About the music business, here is a link: http://www.hole.com/news/index.html
Apparently Courtney Love is fighting the record industry practices that give us only clones of the last successful act, and screw the bands out of their money and creative freedom in the process. She made a very persuasive speech at the RIAA last year to that effect, perhaps it is on that site.

I'm a punk. So I guess my favorite punk band is that gang of drunkards that keeps hangin' with me - all punks.

no! no! no! no! ok look, first: blink 182.. not punk! dodgy jumpy pop sh*te, if you want to hear some real punk go download angels with dirty faces by sham69. The sex pistols were NOT the be all and end all epitome of punk, they were a bunch of cockneys who had 2 songs in london, and only in london, people in the midlands had no idea who they were! - the sex pistols not the people themselves - ! none of the sex pistols could play! sid vicious? bah! wouldn't know a bass guitar if it killed his girlfriend. ok?


blink 182 and all those other 'new age punk bands' are not punk

Blink182 is just modern wannabe-punk. REal punk is like NoFX, Sex Pistols etc...

However Pain for Pleasure (the part of the song that they are dressed like 70's metal-wannabe's) is pretty cool.

One of my favorit punkrockbands is de dutch band Heideroosjes. Try withg Kazaa to find and download the song Fist****party at 701.... Great lyrics.

You cant really be a punk fan and not like the Sex Pistols - they are the defintion of Punk!

The way I say it, there's punk (The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Stranglers, The Dammed etc) which is the political anarchy style punk, music with a message, and then there's new age punk (Blink 182, Sum 41 etc) which doesnt really draw on the same influences but is still decent enough music anyway.

By the way: GLAM4EVAAAHH!

Heres something else. I went to Cepey CD's today. I asked them if they had any sex pistols, they asked me what was that. And I relized something that my Germen teacher said awile ago. Most music that is born across the sea never comes to the US. Why? I dont know. So it seems what I call punk you call something else. Hmmm...gives you a lot to thing about doesn't it?

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guy i ve heard of the sex pistols and i know of like groups of sex pistol fanatics (i never liked em) and im from canada here. id just like to say that the new world is largely divided into 2 big groups of music listeners those that dont know crap and only listen to what they see on much music and listen to all the nieve lies from much music this group is called the mainstream group. and then there are the people who aren't nieve and go off and take and listen to the music they want to listen to and aren't fed the only information they know. i leave you to that

I'm pleased to see, that you stopped flame us who aren't from the USA. The big difference is not between the Sex Pistols (english) and The Ramones (american), but between Sex Pistols AND Ramones and Blink182. Sex Pistols and Ramones were bands with punk mentality and aggressive (and I have to say, progressive) music, and Blink182 is a pop band with boring guitarmusic. Listen some RPistols (or Ramones, Clash, Iggy Pop, Black Flag, etc.), and you'll see the difference!

well i have a question for the canadian person ( sorry i can't remember your name! ) are AC/DC still really big there? cos when I was there they were THE thing to listen to

no bigger then any other band from that time era, maybe with the exception of ozzy osbourne and black sabbath

I can't believe nobody's mentioned the Dead Kennedy's!...


Buzzbomb from Pasadena

Buzzbomb buzzbomb macho-mobile
The road's my slave, that's how I feel
I cruise alone, I cruise real far
Shoo young punk! I love my car

Cross Nevada at a 110
Highway 50 and there's nobody there
Sign says, 'Next sign 30 miles!':

My pension comes-
Each penny saved buys more escape from home
I'd rather carouse around all day
Than move into a home

Plow through rest area San-o-Lets
Splat goes the lonely salesman
Still wanking in the men's room:

Buzzbomb buzzbomb tape up loud
Lawrence Welk cranked up to 10
Faster faster in my car

Buzzbomb is my pride and joy
King of the trailer court
Waiting for a nice young man
Who'll love me for my car

Who tells me why I'm cool
Tells me just what I like
When I pretend he's here

Shred through Palm Springs across the golf course
Cops 'round here scratching their heads
Flashing sirens, State patrol:uh oh

They're scuffing up the side of my car
They're shooting out my tires
This ain't no way to go to heaven
Buzzbomb cornered at the 7-11

Bad Religion anyone?

Regarding the US/Ramones vs. Uk/Sex Pistols thing I liked the way the movie "SLC Punk" dealt with it. If you haven't seen the movie I'd definitely recommend it.

Straight to hell has the Ramones in it. An intersesting movie. Courtney love is in it.


"YOU ALL SUCK"!!!!!!!!!!! JR.

Man, this kind of argument on wether bands like Blink 182 are pop, punk, pop punk crap is just boring and a whole load of ****!

There are now two different types of punk. Old school and new school punk. How do i know? because i am also on a tab website which discusses such issues. There, evidence stated. Now in case some ****s think i'm talking bull then you will be pleased to know that the website has more then 10,000 members.

Anyway, as for Blink 182 and Sum 41, they fall into the New School Punk catergory. They are not of Old school but contain influences from them and have become what is now known as New school Punk. And no, New School punk is not pop punk and no bands like Papa Roach and Linkin Park are not Punk either. They are Nu Metal.

Anyway, for favourite punk bands, My favourite bands are Blink 182, The Offspring & Sum 41

EDIT:
And before some wanker goes ape **** on me, yes i do like the Sex Pistols and the Clash.

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Oh yah and my favs are Sham 69, The Clash and Misfits (who are from the US).

Well since the topic is favorate punk bands...here are some of mine:


The Sex Pistols
GBH
Minor Threat
Black Flag
DOA
Dead Kennedys
The Faction
Agent Orange
TSOL
Youth Brigade

bad religion
nofx
pennywise
sex pistols
noise conspiracy
dead kennedies
clash
goldfinger (yes i do realize this is ska, but they can be pretty punkish, and frankly i just like 'em ;) )
the ramones

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Rancid all the way

Punk is cool party-music but I never would listen to it at home.... it sounds all the same and is a bit boring in my opinion.. I prefer Melodic Metal!

When you say melodic i hope you mean stuff like Iron Maiden, AC/DC, System of a down and not thrash metal ...

Thank you LIandon for putting the topic back were it should be.

blink 182 and sum 41 both suck


sex pistols, the romones,at the drive in, green day,no fx

my cd case is half punk rock half metal so punk rock is half my life

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* Nirvana *
They were punk y'know.

Blink & Sum41 are too happy. When was punk ever happy?

Oh and Kill kill kill kill kill the poor.

nirvana punk?
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anyway yeah good point. when was punk ever happy?

Yeah, Nirvana had very strong punk connections. By the way,is punk an attitude, a mentality or "only" a music style?

Good question, I don't think it's a musical style really because then we would have to call lots of rank popsters "punk" instead of "punky". An attitude would be more correct, methinks, but not one that could be affected (sum41), more like the attitude of the disaffected. One could reason that gangster rap "is" punk now.

The bassist from Nirvana, Krist Novoselic, is currently playing in a punk band I heard.

Gangster rap punk? ... ... ... nope, punk definitly is a form of music mixed with attitude ... punk and punk rock is kewl ahile gangster rap is just ****

As someone who remembers the Punk style of the late 70's I have to say it is difficult to relate the word "Punk" to todays bands and followers.

Punk was about rebellion, anarchy, being different and not giving a sh*t if society liked it, (I mean really not giving a sh*t - rioting, large scale fights with police etc.), that sort of thing.

These days, a neatly turned out stud through your nose and a ring in the eyebrow seems about the limit. Those used to be rusty safety pins and nails...... That to me is the difference. Today it's sanitised and mainstream I'm afraid, totally the inverse of what Punk used to be about. Not that I'm glorifying the old punk movement at all, it's just that I think the underlying attitude of the times was what made punk what it was then, and as times move on, that cannot be recreated. Not that it should.

Still I like and listen to the Clash, The Stranglers and The Damned and think of it as rock, but to be honest for me Punk music was the Sex Pistols and their time has gone. Although "God save the queen", "Anarchy in the UK", "Pretty Vacant" all still sound good occasionally.....



[This message has been edited by Viking (edited November 13, 2001).]

What have I started? Maybe a better title would have been "What do you think is punk?"

Well i wouldn't start a topic with "Whats your favourite rock band? Mine's Britney Spears and The Backstreet Boys. Man they rock!"

On Nirvana, they were not punk, they were grundge ;)

Great post Viking, I agree with you. The music is similar in our days, but the mentality, the feeling is gone.