Sun, 27th May '01, 11:06pm
Well my DM has a crush with the fantasy character Elric of Menlibone. In fact he wants to use him as an NPC in a fothcoming campaign.
The problem is what stats should he have (AD&D 2 ed). I would go for something like:
Of course he should be something like a very high class fighter-mage.
The main problem would be his equipment. His sword Stormbringer should be something like:
Two handed sword, usable only by chaotic characters, +5 thaco, +20 damage, Each hit gives to the user a +3 to STR, DEX and END to a maximum of 25, Victims must save vs death with a +10 penalty or they die. The main problem is should he wear the menlibonean armor desribed in the first book (effectively a field plate that allows spellcasting) and the shield of Chaos. I would like to see your comments on the stats and also if my point that it would certainly screw our adventuring.
Mon, 28th May '01, 3:14am
IF he should be a fighter he has some class requirements that he must abide to. The minimum a fighter can have in strengt is 9.
So this Elric MUST have 9 in strenght
As I don't know who this guy is I can't say anymore. IF he is a dualclass human he must have 16 in his passive class' Main ability (strenght for fighters and Inteligence for Mages) and 17 in his active class' main ability
As a DM I think this sword seems rather unbalanced to the Your game. If he Joins Your PC-group, as an active character he'll take out all the fun of battles.
Mon, 28th May '01, 4:24am
I'm not sure with that strength that he could even lift a 2 handed sword no matter what enchantments are put on it. Now admitedly I'm no PnP expert as I am only just learning how to play 3rd edition, but those stats look impossible for a 2nd edition fighter/mage. Other than the fact that it would be impossible to be a fighter with that strength, all the stats look rather wretched even for a regular mage except for the 21 intelligence, and I'm not sure how useful it is to have intelligence quite that high. I suppose if you are using the sword with those stats, THAT alone would make it even possible to be a fighter/mage(ignoring the prerequisite strength of course). But I also think the sword enhancements are a bit much myself. Even with those miserable stats, the sword is a bit too powerful (putting it mildly). I say if he wants to play the character, give him better stats and cut down on the super sword. Something like that would cut down on everyone elses fun I'm sure.
Mon, 28th May '01, 7:30pm
Hehe, actually the sword is far too weak :p
Why not buy the new supplement for D&D by Chaosium, called Dragon Lords of Melnibone? It is the Elric! rpg converted to the D20 system.
Don't have it myself but iirc Elric is a level 12/20 fighter mage and he does have better stats than that. (I believe int was higher, too) Remember his sword gives him more power. And for Stormbringer, it was a +5 sword (i think) which drained d100 constitution per hit (in addition to the high damage of course) :p
And yes, he wore that plate armour through the whole saga... Might prove a bit problematic as in Elric armour didn't hinder magic. Would perhaps count it as a field plate +3 due to the superior melnibonean construction.
Just to give you a hint on how powerful the sword is, in the Elric! game system 20 hit points is a *lot* for a human (you don't get more hp when you level) and that sword deals 2d8+2d6+17d10 damage. (yes, in addition to the life-stealing)
As for the stats:
The human average in all stats in the Elric! system is 13 and the stat system is almost the same as in D&D, Elric has:
Str 25 (with sword)
Con 20 (with sword)
also Power (used for spell casting) 35 and Appearance 11 if you want to know. His charisma won't be too high but his wisdom will be well over 18.
I wouldn't use him in your campaign, remember this guy killed even gods :p
[This message has been edited by Volar Blackmane (edited May 28, 2001).]
Mon, 28th May '01, 9:22pm
find the original dieties and demigods--a great description with ability scores, his sword, etc.
Sat, 2nd Jun '01, 7:40pm
The other problem is that he tended to kill those associated with him!! Stormbringer had a nasty habit of a"ccidently" drinking the souls of his comrades. Certaintly would not want to addeventure with him!!