IIRC, there is only one evil woman NPC you can take -- Viconia -- and she's pretty weak. How come no tough, evil chicks like Shar-teel, Safana or Skie? I mean, all of the other women are either good or neutral. Dull . . .

Because for some reason they wanted you to play the "Caring, sympathetic, sensetive" kinda guy and only date such women.
Bleh.

LOL!

Well, the game without mods made one girl of each alignment that you can romance. Aarie for Good alignment, Jaheira for neutral, and Viconia for evil.

I personally, would not desire to be with an evil chick, so if I ever decided I wanted my PC to romance Jaheira or Viccy, I'd use the Shadowkeeper tool and change their alignment :D

Bah. Another paladin wanna-be. Meet the resident paladin slayer of SP and his friend Celestial Fury!

*Shura turns yet another walking tin can into a heap of scrap metal along with the broken pieces of a holy avenger*

I found Viconia most attractive of all amongst the three. I have played through all three romances though. Jaheira, to be fair was a most admirable and respectable lady. Aerie though, just had to be killed.

But none of them can compare to Grace from Planescape! Brains, class and beauty. What more can any guy want? Of course, there's that whole succubus kiss level-drain thing...

Back on topic, though. I found Shar-teel really, really butch. Too much of a turn off, really. If you're looking for a tough woman, try the Chloe mod. Well, she's not evil but she's rather opposed to good although her alignment is neutral. Oh yeah, and she's alternatively inclined as well.... :D

I'd just like to see a few more female characters, that's all. Preferably evil -- tell me, who is this Chloe? Race alignment, etc. Do tell!

BTW, is there a Mazzy romace mod? I'd never play it, I'm just curious if such exists.

Now, I think I've heard of some mod involving Bodhi as an NPC or something.

But that's just...

Ew.

BAH I say, BAH! Grace is but a distraction, a signpost on your path to your true love; Annah!

How could one resist such as her? It was... meant to be!

Those auburn locks, that twitching tail, the tight leather jumpsuit.. :)

Viccy is definitely the sexier of the three and more fun to romance, especially with the flirtpack, but I agree, it would have been good to have more evil NPC women to interact with and possibly romance.

I like Annah and all but I found her too juvenile, you know. She's the Imoen of PS:T.

Now, Grace: that's a woman! :love:

(Sad, eh? My dream girl is a fictional succubus in a Crpg. I really have to get out more. :( )

Another mod is coming up, I think. Zariah or something. It's a romance mod with an evil female monk. Or is it a Wild Mage? My memory fails me...

About Chloe: Neutral human female Kensai. She complains when your rep gets too high though, but not when it gets too low. (My group with her went through the game with an alignment of 2. Had to kill thousands of Amnish guards just to move about. :evil: )

She's witty, tough and...homosexual...if your PC isn't available, (Mine wasn't. He's too busy with Viconia) she goes after Imoen instead.

She comes with a pair of awesome swords and she cannot be dual-classed. Korgan and Edwin both try to pick her up but fail miserably. :D

The sad thing is, she has no dialogue in TOB so you should only take her through SOA, bid her a fond farewell and pick up Sarevok.

I don't think Viconia is weak at all. I believe you are looking for a warrior type right? Anyway, Viconia is the bane of demons and undeads and I used only her(100%MR with items boost) to defeat Irenicus first form, before the hell battle.

The Kiara-Zaiya mod features a romancable evil monk, but you have to take her good-aligned wild mage friend along. It was released, withdrawn, and just re-released. There is also a Mazzy romance in the works as well.
Kiara-Zaiya Forum (http://forums.fwstudios.net/index.php?act=SF&s=1cc71d372696ffa831bd9f1453330cd3&f=89)
Mazzy Romance Forum (http://www.dmrealms.net/board/ikonboard.cgi?s=3f2f487c2698ffff;act=SF;f=23)

Oh my god I couldn't stand Annah. I wanted to kill her in the most painful possible way. What a jerk she is.

Note to self, get the Chloe mod....

Hey, does she "go after" female PCs as well? :p

Anyways, I do wish that there would ebe an evil male romance as well... In fact, I am writing one.

Gee, and I am SO off topic...

Don't forget the Valen mod, now. She is definitely an interesting character to have... overpowered, but interesting nonetheless.

I mean, you can't get much more evil than a vampire chick!

I don't think Valen has a romance. She's definitely overpowered, though.

Chloe will romance female PCs; if not then she'll pursue Imoen.

@Ara
I was actually thinking of making something like that once my current mod gets released. Would you be interested in collaborating?

there's that whole succubus kiss level-drain thing...The kiss of a succubus kills its victims, not level-drains them.

:yot:

@Rastor: Not in D&D 3.5! :p

Better yet, you can shrug off the negative level with a FORT saving throw. :D

How does this sound:

An evil necromancer haunted by a tortured past and the cowled wizards. Avoiding a harsh punishment for crimes she never did she will follow you to avoid her arrest and discover more. For she believes without knowledge we are nothing.

@Shura

Granted, but PST came out well before the 3.5ed. rules did.

I want a very evil romance NPC to reform her and make LG :p :D

Oh well, and even a genuinely good-aligned person doesn't have to be tinned niceness. Or to whine all the time and be miserable...

I've never tried this, but I've heard that if you romance Viconia in a certain way, you can change her alignment to neutral or good at least, if not lawful, I don't remember the details, but it was on the BGII site here I'm pretty sure.

True Neutral from Neutral Evil, while Sarevok changes from Chaotic Evil straight into Chaotic Good. Strange, isn't it?

I know what he's thinking of. There's a number of walkthroughs and websites out there that claim that by using certain dialogue options in the Viconia romance that you can change her alignment to Neutral Good.

Those are wrong. It can be changed to true neutral, but not to any good alignment.

Who would want to change Viconia anyway?
She's just fine as she is :love:

I like chevalier's idea of having a very evil romance NPC and reforming her to LG, I'd rather have it from good to bad though.

Yes! A LG female paladin that you can corrupt, cause her to fall from grace and then turn her into a Blackguard eventually!

That'll be awesome!

Or you can cause her to fall and then feed her to the nearest pack of ghouls. :evil:

That's the best way to deal with any Paladin, fallen or not.

Actually, that might make an interesting project :hmm: A fallen paladin...

Woo hoo, free plug! Jessayla is working on Tabiya, a female paladin that will fall. Depending on your choices in game, you can redeem her or corrupt her further. It's in development over on The Gibberlings Three Forums (http://forums.camagna.net). There will be a special kit if you corrupt her enough. :D

WOOHOO :D Great, you made my week with that piece of news :)

*needs to install BG2+TOB again*
I know, I know, why haven't I got it installed already? Busy with Age of Wonders II.

Or you can cause her to fall and then feed her to the nearest pack of ghouls.

That's the best way to deal with any Paladin, fallen or not. Depends on how she looks :D

Well, my mod, which CamDawg mentioned previously, is very much in alpha development yet, but I'm hoping people will have a lot of fun with it. Another feature I plan to include (besides the corruption/redemption aspect) is that Tabiya will be a truly bisexual creature -- she'll romance players of either gender. The lovetalks and flirt options will also differ a good bit depending on the PC's gender. After all, you'd not romance a man and a woman in exactly the same manner..so why shouldn't a mod character reflect that? :)

Anyway, Tabiya is still in the works, but updates and questions/answers can always be found at The Gibberlings Three (http://forums.camagna.net). There's a couple other great projects there as well. *shameless plug for Delainy and HD*

I love you :love:

You are the only reason I will install BG2 again.
Well, you and that urge I get around the end of the year to play BG :D

I would like to end by saying I love you again :love: