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Avelus Ev'gas
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 12:41pm
Hey guys,

I have some sort of trouble here, how do i kill Empathic Manifestation, if i can't cast helaing spells because i'm a sorcerer, I know i could get someone with me and then kick them out again but i want to play sole all the way, so is there another solution?

Sir Ai Rayzor
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 12:48pm
I searched a walkthrough a moment ago, and you're right - it needs a "little lovin' " because it feeds on hate.. The only solution that I can see, is that you take Anomen (AnnoyMen) or Jaheria with you and kill it with a healing spell.

You're soloing so you want to get the XP for killing it, so fire off the healing spell from a distance, right after you've cast it, pause the game and kick who ever joined your party out - and bingo, you will get the xp for killing it.

A little cheesy, but probably the only solution there is.

Avelus Ev'gas
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 12:51pm
AI - no there must be another solution

Sir Ai Rayzor
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 12:54pm
well.. you could change him with Shadowkeeper but I also know for a fact that you're totally against that ;)

Avelus Ev'gas
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 12:55pm
I still cant figure out why making a program like shadowkeeper ;)

Sir Ai Rayzor
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 12:58pm
Well.. so you can play class combinations that the game wouldn't normally allow or correct some wrong stats (not adding some as that would be cheating) - only for the real gamers out there.

but.. you could also hack your stats to say - 40 each - and give your character some uberitems from the game - and also get your kensai to wear bracers, armor, helmet, etc.

but thats :yot:

Avelus Ev'gas
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 1:00pm
just like you ;)

but I think i will let Anomen or Jaheria join up for a bit... but ONLY for a very short time ;)

Heerscher
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 1:14pm
Maybe a silly suggestion, but can't you use your innate ability 'cure light wounds'? Or have you already lost that ability by that time?

Sir Ai Rayzor
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 1:24pm
I think that this innate ability to cure light wounds only applies to yourself and cant be used on others.

correct me if i'm wrong.

Algarion
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 1:47pm
The Cure Light wound ability you get when playing a PC of good alignment works as every other Cure Light Wounds in the game. But if I remember correctly you only get one and is that enough? The pore creature needs loots of love!

Not 100% though, correct me if I'm wrong.

JSBB
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 2:09pm
I have never tried this myself so I have no idea if it would work but maybe you could try using a wand of resurrection on it. It acts like a heal spell on living characters so I guess it is worth a shot.

Khemsa
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 2:17pm
You are incorrect. I solo all the time and always run a Sorcerer or a Mage/Thief and always use my innate CLW to get rid of the Empathic Manifestation. In fact using you innate CLW is even better than other healing spells because it is almost insta-cast.

Colthrun
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 3:09pm
If you exported your BG1 character, you only get Cure Light Wounds, Slow Poison and Draw Upon Holy Might as special abilities if you were :good: and your reputation was medium or good in BG1 when you had the dreams.

But if you played :evil: or your reputation was low when you had the dreams in BG1, you get Larloch's Minor Drain, Horror and Vampiric Touch instead.

Alternatively, if you created your character for BG2, that is, you didn't import it from BG1, there is also a chance that your two CLW are instead LMD if your alignment is chaotic anything or true neutral.

Both options would prevent you from curing the Manifestation using that special ability. You would be stuck if you want to play true solo, unless you can use Heal scrolls or wands, or a particular staff you can find in the graveyard.

Bahir the Red
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 4:42pm
There is another way to bypass this, it wont yield as much XP and it will be harder, but if you attack anyone of the Cult guys in their place, the beholder will appear and you can kill it directly, without the rod. I take this way sometimes when Im too lazy to do the whole thing (this is one of the quests I hate most)

Eric Xanthus
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 5:15pm
OK, this is the question that finally got me to register for this forum.

My solo sorc, having no means to heal the empathic manifestation (he had not harnessed his Bhaal powers for the purposes of healing), traveled to the Temple District in Amn. There he aided a sacred (but annoyingly sanctimonious) order of knights in purging evil from their midst.

His reward for this good deed? A magical gauntlet capable of healing anyone--even empathic manifestations--with a mere touch.

Djieff
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 5:44pm
There he aided a sacred (but annoyingly sanctimonious) order of knights in purging evil from their midst.Isn't that part of the Paladin stronghold quests? If so, you can't get that item with a solo sorcerer unless you install the "get every stronhold" mod. If Avelus doesn't want that mod, he's still screwed.

Drumheller
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 6:09pm
The Gauntlets of Healing are a reward for a Paladin stronghold quest, but other classes can get them as a reward for hunting down Anarg and the fallen paladins for the Order. Just talk to Sir Ryan Trawl for the quest.

Another alternative is the Staff of Curing, found in the Graveyard district in one of the tombs. Personally CLW has always worked for me.

Earl Grey
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 6:10pm
I think Rod of Resurrection or Scroll of Restoration might work.

Djieff
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 7:18pm
The Gauntlets of Healing are a reward for a Paladin stronghold quest, but other classes can get them as a reward for hunting down Anarg and the fallen paladins for the Order. Just talk to Sir Ryan Trawl for the quest.I had absolutely NO idea that quest was available to anyone! Thanks Drumheller and sorry I doubted you Eric Xanthus :o

Maertyn
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 8:33pm
Your Planetar can heal, if I'm not mistaken. Level up a bit and heal that beast to death ;)

Blackthorne TA
Tue, 27th Jul '04, 9:04pm
IIRC, there is some type of healing scroll useable by anyone in a pedestal behind where the Empathic Manifestation appears. Use that.

Avelus Ev'gas
Wed, 28th Jul '04, 12:14am
okay now its time for feedback :)

I did use the rod of resurection, and it worked... Perfect.

Blackthorne - I cant use the 3 cure serius wounds in pedestal.


what does IIRC means? and CLW

Loerand
Wed, 28th Jul '04, 12:41am
If I Recall Correctly & Cure Light Wounds ;)

Avelus Ev'gas
Wed, 28th Jul '04, 1:25am
thx mate

Colthrun
Wed, 28th Jul '04, 1:46pm
I didn't know about that scroll where the Empathic Maifestation appears. Thanks BTA, that will come in handy in my next run of the game.

Avelus Ev'gas
Wed, 28th Jul '04, 11:29pm
colthrun - the scrolls isn't useable to anyone :)