It seems everyone here prefers Comet to Dragons Breath, why is that? I don't have the manual with me but I remember comet being 10d10 and Breath being 20d10, do people not like extra damage? :confused: What am I missing?

Iirc, Comet is party-friendly, Dragon Breath is not.

Well suddenly I like comet better too ;) Thanks.

No, both are party friendly.

According to the manual, Dragon's Breath does 20D10, but you can save for half. The manual makes no mention of a save for half damage for Comet (which does 10D10). Comet forces a save vs paralyzation, failure of which causes targets to be stunned for 1D4 rounds.

Dragon's Breath also blows away enemies which I do not think they can save against. Besides the animation is cooler.

I rarely used either of them.
Much better uses for those spell slots.

But Dragon Breath has the great advantage of hurting targets that resist most magic.

For instance, a Dragon Breath is an instant demi-lich killer.

As said above - dragonbreath is for demi-liches and other highly resistant gentry. Comet is nice when you target a group of casters or simply a group of foes you'd rather take one by one (like seal guards in WK). Other than these, I prefer multiple time stops. Alacrity is said to be fine, too.

What protection spells stop these two?

Can find the manual at the moment but I would say that protection from energy would, as well as some of the other resistant/deflection spells. Protection from fire?

the manual says they are all schools, so wouldn't that spell in 5th grade (don't know english name, in german it's "immunität gegen zauber") that makes you immune to one school of magic protect you?

I prefer dragon's breath, for six reasons.
1.Does More Damage Than The Comet
2.Wider radius than the comet
3.Instant demilich killer
4.Can hurt highly resistant magical opponents
5.Sends opponents flying.
6.I also prefer(this may not be a very good reason) the animation for dragon's breath.

So choose dragon's breath as comet is, in my opinion, worse N.B: I still think comet is quite useful.

I use both equally. I usually use Comet on a single target, and Dragon's breath for multiple targets.

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Dragon's Breath does wonders if you can get all the bad guys in The Oasis to surround you. :rolling:

I've never actully tried any of them. Are they kind of like Fire Ball?

Yep, but they doesn't hur you party and does heaps of damage to the enemies.

the manual says they are all schools, so wouldn't that spell in 5th grade (don't know english name, in german it's "immunität gegen zauber") that makes you immune to one school of magic protect you? I don't think so, dragonbreath's school is *any*.

Ironically, Dragon's Breath does tons of damage to dragons.

You know, I have never thought to use dragon's breath against a dragon. :doh:

I wonder, though, would it do all much damage to a red dragon, say Saladrex, if any damage at all? I also wonder if it would blow the dragon away like it does to other enemies. My guess would be that it doesn't but since I haven't tried it out yet, I could be wrong. :hmm:

I don't think dragons will be actually blown back, they'll just suffer damage. In one of my cheated games (ahem), Edwin killed Adalon in two Dragon Breaths...
Doesn't Dragon Breath do non-elemental damage? If so, then it would hit a red dragon, but I may be wrong.

For a solo mage or sorcerer I'd go Dragon's Breath, for party games I'd say comet. Range :grin:

Spelladonna - Who is Saladrex? Don't remember her.

Who is Saladex?He's the self-absorbed red dragon on the fourth level of Watcher's Keep.

@Deathmage,

IIRC, Dragon's Breath is a 20d10 fireball. Also in the description of the spell, they say that the spell conjures a disembodied head of an adult red dragon.

@Rastor - I just started with the watchers keep for the first time now and have just completed the first level so that must be the only dragon I haven't encountered. Or is there more? Have finished ToB.

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Oh, great. Actually, it IS great. I love fighting those measly lizards. And where is the other? Which level? Meaby a spoiler but as long it doesn't ruin the story...

I just love dragon's breath. Dunno why, but it feels like it affects more enemies than comet. If you have a fighter/mage with robe of vecna and amulet of power, improved alacrity and a few of these takes out everything. ;)

Okay, Dragon's Breath does indeed do fire damage so I doubt it would do anything to the Red Dragon. I tried this on Fire Giants today.

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Saladrex is on the 4th level of Watcher's Keep (level w/ Machine of Lum the Mad); the 2nd dragon, who's name I've forgotten and I think is a green dragon, is on the 5th level as one of the "tests".

You do not have to fight Saladrex in order to advance, though he does have treasure that includes an item that Cespanar can use to create a weapon. The 2nd dragon you have to fight in order to advance.

The second dragon is named 'Dragon'.

I've always liked comet better. It seems like dragon's breath isn't useful enough because it does do fire damage. Comet does not, and even the tough enemies seem to fail the save.

Seriously people, think of how much better it looks when you have this huge dragon appearing to rain firey death upon your foes than a simple measly comet... :grin:

Yup, Dragon's Breath is much cooler.
And with Robe of Vecna and Amulet of Power it has 0 casting time. With Improved Alacrity, this thing is able to kill anything. My sorcerer had most of the kills, since he got this beauty.

I mostly uses Dragons Breath, dont know why. =D


"You know, I have never thought to use dragon's breath against a dragon.

I wonder, though, would it do all much damage to a red dragon, say Saladrex, if any damage at all? I also wonder if it would blow the dragon away like it does to other enemies. My guess would be that it doesn't but since I haven't tried it out yet, I could be wrong."


Dragons whont be blown away.

Okay two questions, not worth starting a new thread, about Vecna. How much does it decrease casting speed and where do I get it?

Improves csting speed by 4.
Buy it from the bonus merchant in Adventurer's Mart.
It's expensive, but worth it, although some people consider it cheesy (not me, though).

Bonus merchant? Huh?

They're not part of the standard game. You can download the file here (http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/index_editors4.htm) (its the first file).

This definitely should have been a separate topic. Don't try to conserve space here, there's plenty. If you have something unrelated to the original post to discuss, open a new thread.