Seems self control is a bit low now that I discovered that control + R and can teleport with 'J' too. I like the teleport cuz it's annoying walking all over, but now that I discovered the full heal on demand w/o casting, it's kinda totally ruined the fun of the game cuz I'm lame and can't seem to stop :p Anybody else have this trouble?

Nope. :p You need professional help. (Where Ex when you need him? :shake: )

Seriously, if it's ruining the fun to use it, then don't use it, and the fun will come back. The first step is always the hardest, but when the fun starts returning it'll get easier. One day at a time... :roll:

I went hog-wild with it when I first discovered it, too, TT. Like you, I quickly discovered it takes a lot of the fun out of the game, but I couldn't seem to stop. Same thing happened with Ctrl-T (bye bye, bad guy spell protections!) Gradually, though, I just sort of naturally eased off. Now, I only use it for super-cheesy fights like Improved Planar Sphere. Or, if someone dies during a battle, I'll Ctrl-R them back afterwards; saves some wear-and-tear on my RoR.

I don't really consider Ctrl-J cheating, though; I still use it all the time. After playing the game for the umpteenth time, I can only stomach the trek from the district entrance to the Radiant Heart building for so long.

If the temptation is too much to resist, you could always just disable the cheats in the baldur.ini file...you know, go cold turkey.

Ctrl-R also removes all enchantments on a character, and if casting a spell, cancels it, so it was sometimes worth casting it on a mage to get the exp for actually killing him than Ctrl-Y. Yes, I got addicted to it too.

I don't really consider Ctrl-J cheating, though; I still use it all the time. After playing the game for the umpteenth time, I can only stomach the trek from the district entrance to the Radiant Heart building for so long. I agree. Traipsing back and forth over the same territory is boring.

You know, I even banned myself to use innocent CTRL+J, as I feel like dirty cheater when I do. Interesting, I have no qualms about taking advantage of gam engine. Ha! :evil:

Just disable the cheats, man. I have them just in case.

I only ever used CTRL+Y and CTRL+R with Sola's modded fights.

What are you guys talking about? What do all those CTRL buttons do? I have never heard of these features.

Cheating. CTRL+R restores the target to full HP, dispels all magic. CTRL+Y kills all but few unkillable NPCs. (it still does tons of damage) CTRL+J is quick teleporting. Try them!

@ Harbourboy:

You have to enable the cheat codes in your baldur.ini file by adding a line. You can then hit control + a number of different letters for various (and morally questionable) affects. I don't remember exactly what you need to add, but the procedure is detailed in Dan Simpson's walkthrough, or you could just google "Baldur Cheat Codes" and find lots of sites telling you how to do it and what you'll get.

Be warned, though...it's a slippery slope to the Abyss!

http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/cheats.php

Ahh, the cheating...I started and I could NOT stop. You're right, it just kills the game's objectives. The fighting is one of the main game factors, take it out and you only have the boring samey stuff left over. But I really cannot stop! I am addicted to Ctrl+R. :(

Ctrl-J is my best friend. Aside from that, I don't use cheats all that much.

Never used those cheats. Okay, perhaps not exactly "never", but only teleportation to skip the unnecessary and insta-kill for Melissan (who is just a cheating biatch in any case). Otherwise clean as a sparrow :p

I don't enable the cheats, so I've never used these :angel:

I'm fairly proud of myself-I discovered the cheats and so far have only imported a few improved healing potions for the very last fight of ToB when I realized that I didn't have any. But I have to admit, it's temptation x100.

I love using some cheats, CTRL J is the best. I never use CTRL Y though. It makes the games more enjoyable to be honest, but to each his own.

Someone can't resist using cheat? Hahaha. It's much worse when you discover something which is not an "official" cheat, like using that big axe in ToB (can't remember the name, forged from an axe found in Watcher's Keep) which gives bonus HP when equipped; since BG2 allows pause during battle, you just equip-unequip the item as many times as needed to regain all your HP (it always gives a certain percent of your HP as bonus, and when you unequip it, your momental HP won't be decreased, only the total one. From this point, its effect is obvious.) Now this was something that needs some will not to be used.
Even as a beginner, I've never found any joy in using any such official cheat you guys mention. Using -- or rather just experimenting with --"over-modded" godlike characters is another matter, that is more "acceptable".
Just a possible help for you to resist: when you are tempted to use it, don't forget that using cheat means you're not a good player. In fact, a very poor one. If you are a good one, you don't use cheat. If you tell this to yourself, it might help.
Have fun!

Heard of them but I've never used them. Cheating of (usually) any sort can lead to the ruining of the fun for any game, yes even BG. They don't seem that important anyway :p

i use ctrl-j as well, wouldnt wanna go without it!

I used to use CTRL+R when I found out about it...and I managed to wean myself off those for a while..and then I installed Tactics and after the first time I took on Improved Ilyich...I lost it! :p

So yeah...after that particular relapse, it took me about a couple of gaming runs before I got rid of that dirty habit...now I stick with just CTRL+J, CTRL+I if romance is going too slow...and I use CLUAConsole to create a Bag of Holding for me as soon as I leave Chateau Irenicus. I really don't care if its cheating...after I've played the game like 85 times I don't care for the hassle of inventory management...

I've never enabled them, and can't think of any reason why I would.

The only time I've activated them was for a quick way through the final sequence of ascension to see a couple of alternate endings.

I don't activate them but i used gem replication trick once and i will never do that again. Even that small trick killed all the fun of my game and i had to restart. :bang:

I agree. Traipsing back and forth over the same territory is boring. I heartily agree, especially if it is something like Firkraag's dungeon after you finish the quest. I just zip right back to the beginning, and it saves me boring walking time.

I never use Ctrl+J. The only breaks you get in the game come from those treks, and I'm not about to eliminate them.

Actually, in the case of Windspear Hills, that's one time ctrl+J GIVES you a break. After the constant battling in Firkraag's dungeon, who wants to fight a bunch of goblins, orcs, ankhegs and wild dogs?

After the constant battling in Firkraag's dungeon, who wants to fight a bunch of goblins, orcs, ankhegs and wild dogs?How close am I to a level up? I don't find the walks boring at all.

I don't know about you, but I tend to clear the map before going in. And then there's nothing left to attack me when I come back out.

The outside world type map should respawn enemies at certain points every so often even after you've cleared the map. They are usually so easy though that they don't even bother me.

Starwalker's right. The goblins and orcs and whathaveyou spawn at predetermined spots. I always know where they're going to be, but they can't be avoided by going the most direct route back to the cabin, and it's tedious to fight them after the long haul at Firkraag's. Hence, ctrl+J.

Tedious to fight?
After finishing Firkraags dungeon, a few measly goblins are barely click-splat. click-splat. click-splat.

Anyway, I tend to use CTRL+R instead of waiting for the ring of regeneration to heal everyone. Might be cheating I guess, but I don't feel like waiting minutes just for them all to be healed, heh.

CTRL+I hasn't worked one single time for me for some reason. A few NPC's might face each other when I hit it, but that's all. They never start to chat, and more often than not, it seems to actually break my romances. Needless to say, I'm avoiding that one like the plague :p

CTRL+J has it's uses, but I don't really use that one much either.

CTRL+Y? Haven't used that one a single time. If I want to cheat through a battle, I'd rather summon my killsword to get the EXP for it aswell :evil:

They aren't even click-splat, click-splat for me. I just run my group into the middle of them and let the AI do the work. But then several of the warriors have aggressive default AI's.

I use CTRL J almost 90% of the time...just because I've played the game so many times that I know all the terain like the back of my hand...

I only use CTRL Y on lame enimies later on in the game...like Kolbalds, Hobgoblins, and Gibberlings...you know, the lousy guys that only give you 35 XP or less. Hell, a death spell would take care of an entire army of them...but it would still be a waste of a spell...so I save time and CTRL Y them all. :evil:

Most of the time however, I use CLUAConsole:("ExploreArea")...or ("AdvanceRealTime("xxx") to make up the difference of all my CTRL J-ing. :p :rolling:

I had never even heard of CTRL-J until this thread started.

Tedious to fight?
After finishing Firkraags dungeon, a few measly goblins are barely click-splat. click-splat. click-splat. That's my point. After the dungeon, it's boring to kill goblins. I'd rather just go right to my reward. It's obvious the Firkraag quest (as part of the Paladin stronghold) was designed to be slightly "epic" (damsel in distress, non-stop fighting, legendary foe), so I get why Windspear Hills is so encounter intensive. I'm just sick of killing pissant goblins and orcs by the time I'm done. :p

CTRL+R removes spells? Ah, so that's why Mr F/M got killed so quickly. His buffs were removed.

After the dungeon, it's boring to kill goblins. I'd rather just go right to my reward.Then just walk there...oops, I mean CTRL+J. :p

And that's just what I do! :p

I've never used the console cheats, but I am sadly addicted to giving my characters good stats using SK. Not perfect stats or 25s or anything like that, but usually around 93 points.

It's sad because a few stat points don't even really make that great of a difference in this game :(

I've never cheated in a BG game, I just think it's wrong.

The only time i'd ever say it's okay, is if it's to get past a bug of some kind.