I hope I'm posting this in the correct forum (the ToB forum specifies having ToB installed - I don't have ToB installed).

In another thread a couple of people mentioned, or alluded to, problems with ToB after importing a BG/TotSC character into SoA.

Does kit selection have something to do with it?

I've just started SoA. My SoA character is a Paladin imported from BG/TotSC. I have not installed ToB yet. I'm not so far along that I couldn't start over again (though not looking forward to facing Torgal again).

Any answers or comments appreciated.

[ February 23, 2005, 00:13: Message edited by: Seb ]

It might help if you told us what the actual proplem was (unless I missed it somewhere in your post).

Make sure you have TOB installed before you begin SOA or you won't be able to take your saved game into TOB.

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The only problem I can remember is the if you have tob installed at the time of importing, it changes your hp total for some obscure undefined reason, instead of just keeping the hp you had in bg1.

If you have a question relating to ToB, it should also be in the ToB forum, logically. Moving to the ToB forum.

Sorry about posting this originally in the SoA forum, but my question was essentially seeking advice whether to continue playing SoA with my imported BG/TotSC character without having ToB installed (I hope this doesn't get sent back to SoA - where, correctly, does one post a message regarding the cross-functionality of these games?).

I gather from previous postings, and from Aces response above, that I will not be able to take this character into ToB (since I do not have ToB installed at the moment).

From this, it looks like I will have to purchase and install ToB, and restart my SoA game.

Is there another solution? Is there a way to edit a character later on to make it possible to continue into ToB?

No, no... look, ToB overrides SoA. So any discussion with ToB in it is fine in this forum. It doesn't have to be ALL specifically about ToB.

If you have it, you should install ToB right away, if for nothing else, for the container highlighting ability.

You will be able to import you character from the end of SoA into ToB. This should explain things:

- http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/tob_features.php

- http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/tob_faq.php

Taluntain said: "ToB overrides SoA."

I see. I guess that makes sense.

And thank-you for pointing me toward those links. I had already read them though, and they are actually part of the source of my confusion.

I'm starting to think I must just be a bit thick here, since I seem to be getting conflicting and partial information.

So, in a effort to resolve this once and for all, here's what I understand about this issue:

1. Those links (from Taluntain's message) state that you can import SoA characters into ToB - this only makes sense since it is an SoA add-on/add-in - this was not confusing at all.
2. But those same links do not state explicitly that a BG/TotSC character can can be imported from BG/TotSC to SoA, play SoA through, then install ToB, and still be able to import that character (originally from BG/TotSC) to ToB.
3. In fact, a few postings on this, and the SoA forum state (explicitly sometimes, implicitly sometimes) that a character imported from BG/TotSC can be played in SoA (this I know since this is what I'm currently doing), but that that character will not be able to continue into ToB, unless ToB was already installed when the BG/TotSC character was originally imported into SoA.
4. But then Taluntain (above) implies that I can continue to play SoA with my imported BG/TotSC character without ToB installed, and (and I am assuming the implication here) install ToB at a later date, and still be able to import this same character into ToB (at least this is what I understand Taluntain's message to mean).
5. Numbers 3 and 4 above, conflict - and I don't know which (3 or 4) is correct.

If I could, I'd just run out right now and buy ToB, install it, and find out for myself. Unfortunately, I live in a rural area and there isn't a copy of ToB for sale in the nearest city (I've been looking because of this issue). I could order it on-line though, and I suppose this is what I'll have to do (though it means putting my SoA playing on hold untill it arrives).

You're making this way more complicated than it is...

2. Uh... so you want to import a character from BG to SoA, then finish the game with it, then dump it, and instead again import the old BG character into ToB? Why on earth would you want to do that? A character for ToB needs to be properly high level, which means the only sane thing to do is to import a SoA character.

3. When you import a BG character into BG2 (with or without ToB installed), it becomes a BG2 character, which certainly can be used in both SoA and ToB.

4. Yes, exactly.

5. Where do you see a conflict?

2. No, that's not what I meant. It seems I've been using some of this terminology incorrectly.

My question stems from a comment made by "Aces" in a SoA forum thread entitled "Starting Advice" (which is why I originally posted this question there). That thread was about whether or not I should continuing playing my BG character when starting SoA, or instead start a new character.

"Aces" wrote:


I agree completely with Andyr.
Try one of the Kits with your Paladin.
I took Undead Hunter but all 3 are great (so I hear).

Edit:
Make sure you have TOB installed!!!
You won't be able to take your saved game over to the final chapter unless you do.


My question (and confusion) stems from "Aces" final comment, which I took to mean that unless I have ToB already installed when I imported my BG/TotSC character into SoA, that I would not be able to play out the final chapter of ToB with that same character.

Perhaps this is not what was actually meant? If not, any idea what that comment might relate to?

I'm not really sure what he meant by that, but the obvious impression it gives is that it is wrong. As I said, once you have a character imported into BG2, it's good for SoA and ToB, no matter what.

That's good enough for me. Thank-you for your patience and input.

Seb

I'm not really sure what he meant by that, but the obvious impression it gives is that it is wrong. As I said, once you have a character imported into BG2, it's good for SoA and ToB, no matter what. How can you go straight to TOB from SOA with all your bonuses unless TOB is installed?

I think there is confusion between the character and the game. If you have ToB installed you go from SoA into ToB with your SoA party. Thus you take your BG character all the way through.