Has anybody ever noticed that when you import a character from BG1 Jahiera's Dexterity is 17, but when you import from a SOA game her dex is only 14. This is extremely anoying as she is far more useless with an AC that is 3 points lower. Is there a way around it?

[ August 02, 2004, 22:12: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

Not without cheating

Never noticed. She has always had Dex=17 for me. Could it be a patch issue? I would have thought it to be the other way round if anything, as she has lower dex in BG1.

The AC bonus was needed far more in BG1, where there were lesser armors available, not to mention an iron shortage. In BG2 you can find armor, rings, helms, and magic that more than compensates.

If necessary get her the Gauntlets Of Dexterity (18).

I don't like to use the gauntlets of dexterity really as there are far more interesting bracers to give her. I do like to use her as a main frontline fighter but it's difficult when her dex. is low. I prefer giving her Gaunts of weapon expertise, but I suppose sacrifices must be made :)

It's probably a glitch. SoA is meant for Lady Jah to have a Dex of 17... so hack it in!

Actually, the NPCs that are present in BG1 and BG2 don't have the same statistics, and Jaheira isn't the only instance. Minsc also has more buffed stats in his second incarnation of BG2. I can only assume that such an obvious change was intentional on the part of the programmers.

Yeah, what happened to Viconia's 50% MR? :eek: :D

And (nothing to do with ability scores, but) some of the NPCs go through alignment changes as well. In BG1, Minsc was neutral good. In SoA, he's chaotic good. I think Imoen's changes as well.

EDIT: Changed chaotic neutral to chaotic good

[ August 05, 2004, 00:35: Message edited by: Wiegraf Folles ]

Good observation. Minsc lost Dynaheir and Imoen was tortured, so their alignment changes are understandable, especially since CHARNAME's alignment can change through the course of the game as well.

In BG1, Minsc was neutral good. In SoA, he's chaotic neutral. I don't think so. "Evil around every corner..." and all those other Minsc quotes? He is obviously of a Good alignment, not CN.

I don't think so. "Evil around every corner..." and all those other Minsc quotes? He is obviously of a Good alignment, not CN. I concur. Dusting of the old manuals, its true that in BG1 Minsc was Neutral Good, but in BG2, Minsc was Chaotic Good.

Going out on a limb, I'll say that Wiegraf made a typo. Happens to the best of us. :D

Jaguar is right. I meant chaotic good, just used to neutral characters (whether they're mine or NPCs)

Yeah I was gonna say minsc is definitely a force of good lol.

Yup. Anyway, Jahiera's Dex might change coz I have TOB installed, but the first time round when I import my char from BG1 she definately has 17. Isn't fair...

That's a bug. I'm 99% positive that Jaheira's dexterity in BG1 is 14. Even if you gave her the tome of dexterity, there was no getting it up to 17.

I was just playing BG1 and she had 14 dex for me

Unless you played multiplayer, and found book of dex, and then saved the game and placed 6 of the chars that had the book in there inventory into the game and put all six onto one char and boosted his dex up to 25 ;S then exported the char lol (semi-cheating) lol

... found book of dex, and then saved the game and placed 6 of the chars that had the book in there inventory into the game and put all six onto one char and boosted his dex up to 25 ;S then exported the char lol (semi-cheating) lolSemi-cheating? :xx:
That's the pinnacle of cheating! :D

Back on the subject.
Jaheira has 17 dex in BG2. Maybe the curse she gets hit by pulls it down temporarily, I don't remember, but in either case it should reset to 17 after it is lifted.

In BG Jaheira had 14 dex.

No, Jahiera never had 17 in BG1, she had 17 in SoA when I imported my PC from BG1, but when I exported from SoA and re-imported into SoA her dexterity is 14. See?

That makes sense, because that's what it was in BG1. If you just get her from the prison cell, her Dexterity is 17. In BG1 it's supposed to be 14 and in BG2 it's supposed to be 17. I'm failing to see the problem here.

I rarely use her as a front line fighter anyhow, at least not until later in the game. Her ability to protect and heal herself via spells more than makes up for it, IMHO. One thing I would say, however, is that her picture in BG2 is not nearly as pretty as her BG one -- I'm running a multiplayer game and using a female Avenger -- she uses the Jaheira pic from the original game -- ROWR!

On a slightly different note, Minsc's alignment always struck me as being more Chaotic Good than Neutral Good, though perhaps his desire to protect Dynaheir played a part in the designers wanting to make him NG. I should mention, though, that just because someone talks about good and evil and such, that does not make them of a good alignment, necessarily -- Anomen is LN (to start out, anyhow), and he is always announcing his goodness and denouncing evil. In any event, rangers must be of one of the three good alignments. What irks me is Minsc's change of racial enemy from BG to SOA. Gnoll to vampire? Gimme a break . . .

i know this is off-topic, but
@ Lord Keldin Deparra
its not that outlandish. his mission in BG1 was to protect Dynaheir, and since she was taken by gnolls, that was his racial enemy. Now in BG2, Irenicus is allied with Bodhi and her vampires, and Irenicus is responsible for Dynaheir's death.

Plus, even if you import a ranger character from BG1, you are allowed to choose a different racial enemy. It only makes sense as there are several racial choices you aren't allowed to make in BG1 that you probably would if given the opportunity. In fact, the race lists from BG1 to BG2 are almost mutually exclusive. I mean, how many creatures are options in both games? A handful of gibberlings, orc, ogres, ogrillons, and spiders - and that's about it. It would hardly be fair if you couldn't switch. You aren't allowed to pick things like vampires, trolls, demons or dragons, in BG1, despite these being much stronger selections that gnolls for example.

@dradeel: I agree with Earl Grey. Its the same as SKing the character, just a harder way of doing it.

Jahiera's Dex depends on how many experience points you have... If you start with a new character she has dex 17... If you restart the game and import an experienced character her level goes up but her dex goes down. I think it is probably an oversight by the developers.

Just checked with InfExp. Level 7,8,11 she has Dex17. Level 12 she has Dex14. I think it's just a bug in the .cre (as Scythe has said) and they forgot to fix her dex for L12.

I see the InfExp and Jaheira have Dex14 when she is Fighter 1/ Druid 1, the name of the cre archive is JAHEIRD, but in the others archives .cre from Jaheira, she have Dex17.
It´s a bug in all the signs.