What, in your opinion, is the scariest creature or specific character in all of BGII? By scariest I mean which one has the persona, look, etc. that freaks you out the most. It doesn't make much sense to me to just say the most powerful creatures, because I am sure that we would be killed just the same by a dragon or a diseased gibberling.

My scariest character would have to be Neb.

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Kangaxx, either form. Not just for the power or sheer viciousness, but for what he says and does. Shangalar and the Twisted Rune are harder to knock over, but they aren't even close to Kangaxx on the "ancient, unutterably evil" factor. He tricks you into freeing him, then squeezes out these beauties:

When you reassemble him: "Death shall rain upon the planes and Kangaxx shall violate all!"

When you destroy his Lich form: "I am truly free and the world shall be burned to ash for your sin!"

Beholders are pretty frightening as well - they have no conscience, no link to humanoids, phenomenal cosmic powers (well, the Elder Orbs, at least).

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The improved Ulitharids in the Tactics mod. Utterly alien, irredeemably evil, and monstrously powerful. Like the manual says, they consider you food or slaves, if they consider you at all. Before the upgrades, they're too easy to slaughter with the right preparations. Now, they truly are some of the deadliest, scariest monsters in Faerun.

I definitely think Beholder kin are the scariest. It's also the monster type that I've had the most problem with.

I think Shades and other Shadow creatures are among the creepiest. Just imagine trying to sleep, and have several indistinct, shrieking forms flit across your window :p


And for sheer, up-front terror, I'd say Fire Giants and Dragons, for their size and ferocity.

Irenicus!Sorry it's just a joke.
I do agree with Jhonka.I think that shadow creatures are creepy.
But i also find that Vampires are rather scary too.

I definitely think Beholderkin are scary. Just thinking about their immens power and what they would do with it when you stand in front of them gives me the chills. And all those eyes...

Liches are scary too. A skeleton with rotting flesh hanging between the bones that will whipe you off the face of the earth with their magics.

i dont know if they fall under "monsters", but i'd say the drow. definitely.

i dont know if they fall under "monsters", but i'd say the drow. definitely. Judging by some of their actions one could say they are monsters :D

Just curious: why do you think they are the scariest?

I think the Vampiric Mists are kinda creepy.
Imagine walking a late saturday night, through some fog, and then suddenly the fog starts to make sounds and attack you, creepy ;)

Hrmm, I'd say the Illithids - even Beholderkin can be tricked, as the guy in the underwater city proves, dragons are powerful but typically don't tend to going out to slay humans + there are good dragons also (Silver dragon anyone?).
Illithids, as said, are so alien they can't even be considered evil anymore - I bet zebra's think that lions are evil if they could...
We're just food or otherwise resources for them.
:borg:

I've always found the Ravager well scary. Something about a huge demon with 500+ HPs and freakish damage reduction is prety chilling.

for me...its in the Unseeing Eye Quest...

The Empathic Manifestation, a demon brought into the world and fed by the hate of those around it...

Every hit you deal it it just gets stronger...

Since in today's society there is no 'Healing' magic, it would be impossible to kill unless you had a bunch of hippies give it a hug or something...

And the voice of the Amaunator avatar you meet afterwards is scary, too

Looking at things from a traditional view, as opposed to the modern day apologistic view of things found in television shows such as Buffy, Angel, Charmed, and others, I'd say the demons are the scariest, most evil sickos around. Certainly their avatars in the game are creepy as all get out.

I also have to say the illithids are a close second, if not a tie with the demons. They seem to me to be lifted from the mind of my old buddy Lovecraft -- anyone have any ideas on where else, textually, they might have come from? One thing worth noting is that while you can talk to some beholders (the unseeing eye and the spectator, who seems to have some decidedly human traits) some demons (the demon in watchers keep, forgot his name, some imps, the gambling cambion) there is no way to ever talk to an illithid -- scary stuff, there! They don't ever deign to talk to you they are so alien and tentacled.

the illithids, because their intelligence drain can kill anyone, unless they are using the enhanced lilarcor in the item-upgrade mod. And you do talk to one illithid, although it isn't much of a conversation: the Hidden, in Jan's quest. At least he doesnt try to kill you outright.

I agree with nonsequitur about some of the demi-lich's lines are the scariest in the game. Particularly:

"I am truly free and the world shall be burned to ash for your sin!"


That is the scariest line in the game in my opinion, and it makes him seem truly powerful. I mean even the illithid sort of live by themselves and coexist with the rest of the world... kangaxx simply sets out to destroy the entire world as soon as you free him!

I wish that there was a way in this game to play as a character as evil as kangaxx. I mean it's hard to play as an truly evil character and then go out and do a bunch of silly quests that would be far beneath someone of such deep evil.

That troll in De'Arnise Keep that spawns two smaller ones when killed. Imagine you keep killing them, and they continue to multiply like the heads of the hydra from Greek mythology. :eek:

The drow are the scariest "monsters" in the game to me. Everything else you know it evil pretty much. Beholders, Mind Flayers, Demons and so. You know you can't trust them and that they are evil.

The drow though. They you in the back while they hg you like a brother. And while you are in the city, at first they all seem to dislike each other. Then the Matron mother is killed and the whole city is united with a single cause, to kill you.

Agree with nataben, the scariest for me would be Neb. There's an air of realism to him which I don't find much in all the other villains in this game... Given his particular vocation, I guess it kinda freaks me out.

That's precisely what freaks me out about Neb as well, his realism. I can only be scared to a certain extent by a thousand year old skull that can cast spells... however just the way that he kills all those little kids and summons their spirits, and sits in the corner giggling... that just freaks me out. Illithids at least hunt humans for food or slaves, Neb just kills for sadistic thrills.

"...Neb just kills for sadistic thrills."


That rhymed! :o


PS: I've fought Neb before, but I can't remember what triggers him. How do I get him to appear? I can only assume he's part of a quest.

When you guys said Neb I thought you meant the dude in Trademeet who always talks to you. Neb is pretty scary, the wierd thing is that it's a Duergar thats points you in his direction.

The Demon Wraith in Watchers Keep is kind of scary to.

Yes, Neb the child-killer is vile, there's no question about that, as such people exist in real life. As for someone thinking Neb was Neeber, the Trademeet cousin to BG1's Noober, all I can say is that I've met people like those two idiots, and while they may mot be frightening like Neb, a demon, or an illithid, they certainly are more annoying than anyone you're likely to meet.

I wonder if the bioware/black isle people got some feedback from BG1 wherein people said they wished they'd had a chance to kill old Neb, so they gave them the chance in BG2.

i reckon the tanner in bridge district..... like neb but he *skins* ppl.. Yeah, neb is bad too though. then again, the **** irecinus does to you and imoen is pretty nasty also.. like that poor guy who got locked in the tank 4 ages. and his torture of jahieras husband. The hardest fight though is demogorgon and u dun even get any xp!

Illithids: They're way too alien for us to even understand their motivations.

Bone Golems have always struck me as things I wouldn't really want to meet ;)

I Don't find Neb to be scary but just sick, and there is a strong realism about him i do agree. i wouldn't really like to run in to a beholder, cept prehaps the one from sendai's enclave cause he was pretty cool :cool: , again illithid down a dark ally would also scare the crap outta you, imagin actually running into it all those tentacle thingys touchin your face thats pretty horrible. i would agree with duryn that it is the demon which you can only kill by healing, we would have to shove antibiotics and paracetamol down its throat these days. lol

I think dopplegangers (not sure about spelling here) are the scariest. Not only they have a scary voice, they also can take anybody's appearance and strike when you least expect.

Scariest creatures.... Well, Gauths freaked me out the first time I met them. And so did Mind flayers.

However, the worst for me was the Ravager and bone swords. They were just plain nasty.

I've always found the Ravager well scary. Something about a huge demon with 500+ HPs and freakish damage reduction is prety chilling. Yes, I'm sure if you are sleeping at night and you are awakened by the Ravager the first thing you will be thinking is "oh my god look at his damage reduction!"

Illithids. Something that stuns you, then uses it's tentacles to rip open your head and feast on your brains is just wrong.
I would also say driders, but they're not in BG, so does that actually count?

Illithids. Something that stuns you, then uses it's tentacles to rip open your head and feast on your brains is just wrong.The fact that you'd be conscious and aware but completely helpless is what pushes the brain-gobbling squiddies over the line for me. That, and it's nothing more than sitting down for dinner to them.

i find a bunch of the monsters in the game to be scary. the first thing i thought of was irenicus, hes so cold and calculating not to mention he lacks a soul! then i thought some more and someone mentioned neb and i thought yeah neb is scary and the realism of his character is just plain ol' freaky. and neb reminded me of reijek and he is pretty sick too. but then i thought some more and it struck me! :eek: the scariest person is noober!!!!!!! noober is scary!!!

I thought Bodhi was really creepy because a) the way she stands just gave me the willies. I dunno why, and b) her portrait is grotesque. Blood all over her mouth and such.

Bodhi talking...at 3 in the morning...in a dark room...THAT is scary!

Also, any dragon...they ARE scary...imagine a hulking great lizard rearing up and shooting huge gouts of flame at you...

I'm surprised this hasn't come up yet, but don't Giant Spiders deserve a mention here? I cant remember their excat size as something to compare them to, but they sure are BIG! Also, carrion crawlers. 'nuff said.

To me Bone Golems are the most creepy creatures. Their attack makes my hairs stand on end. :aaa: Definitely scary.

Irenicus - almost totally lacking in empathy, a trait which isn't totally removed from the real world, since it's quite plausible to run into somebody who's like like that.

Kangaxx, te whole description of his body parts creeps me out. The battle itself is enough to scare peeps into an early grave with all those imprisonments, lol. Worth the scariness though, for that ring.....

I'd have to say either Cyric (though I can't remember if you fight him or not...but since he's there in the game, I say he counts) or Amellysan. Sorry; but nothing could freak me out more than crazy-bloodthirsty gods out to kill anything/anyone in their way (unless of course those gods looked like wasps...*shudder*).

Korgan scares me the most. He's scary for me because I love having him as an NPC but if you make a wrong move with him he'll attack you. Given his history you wouldn't want him to take watch... ever.

Carrior Crawlers give me the willies. Their skin looks like paper covered in grease stretched over a frame, and when they rear up they look straight at you...

It used to have a bigger effect than it did before. Once I changed them to look like demon knights so I didn't have to look at them. That led to amusing situations in the sewers.

I'd have to say either beholders or liches...especially high-level of either. There's nothing like a creature that can banish you from this plane with an Imprisonment spell to make you say s***.
However, I agree with the idea that Neb can be pretty creepy by reason of his very realism.

The Raveger as well is damn scary.

I thought Bodhi was really creepy because a) the way she stands just gave me the willies. I dunno why, and b) her portrait is grotesque. Blood all over her mouth and such.

Funny. Bodhi's portrait always gave me a boner. :D
Her male vampire friends are scary, though.

Most definitely.... Caspenar, the butler from Hell!

"Ooo, needs must I look through your belongings??"

Irenicus-IMO he is the best written/acted character in the game. He is so convinced he is right and the rest are just idiots for not realizing it. I've met so many just like him. Oh, oh I think I'm one of them.

This thread has made me think: what would happen if (in the game) you hadn't intervened, and these creatures would have been successful at their endevours?

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What would happen if Irenicus had been successful in sapping the Tree of life?

What would Kangaxx do if you set him free then died, leaving him free to "burn the world to ash"

What would happen if "The imprisoned one" managed to emerge from watcher's keep?

What if the sewer beholder had managed to obtain both parts of the rift device?

Mind Flayers scare the bejesus out of me, especially when the team is unprepared.

Mariliths come second.

I think Jan Jansen is pretty scary when you let him sit idle a while. :p

Really the scariest would have to be that group at the gates of Baldur's Gate when you enter the town after coming from Underdark. I'm not sure though if that happened because of some mod I had installed, since I donät remember it happening the first time I played the game.

Also that group which resides in another plane accessed with rogue stone through a certain door. You all know what I mean. Just canät remember the name.

it's not really the *scariest* creature i met in bg2, but it's something no one seems to have noticed, because it's so early in the game.

i said not the scariest creature but it made me shiver a lot. remember chateau irenicus, the 2nd level ? just left to the big room with dead khalid and the mephtit-portals there's a small room where you get to fight a clone, in fact the room is full of clones. evidently joneleth intented to clone ellesime for realizing what has lost. imo here you could for once *feel* how irenicus is set. grieving for who he has lost this makes him truly "the shattered one".

Noober, definitely... how can you not quiver with dread when he talks to you?

Nobody mentioned Faldorn? Did any of you ever try to take her out the old fashioned way (I mean without using Cernd or poisonning the grove either), I tried in my first game, no matter hard I hit I couldn't kill her... add her rambling about nature... She had me summoning fiends for quite a while -lol-

Bodhi is really hot!!!! (I like her voice...) ;)

I know this may be a wierd one, but Balthazar kinda gives me the creeps. I can't really explain it, but in the last dialogue with him...I dunno, it just freaked me out. That said Neb and the Tanner are also high on my list. I guess Dragons and Beholders and the like might be freaky to walk up to, but the demented and realistic portrayals of humanity and what really scare me.

Plotwise I always shudder when I go into the secret flayer fortress in the sewers. You never know what's going on in this world... *brrr*

Bodhi is really hot!!!! (I like her voice...) I would stick my neck out for her any day of the week. :p

Kangaxx, particularly in his Demilich form.

Irenicus (kudos to David Warner for the amazingly good voice acting), particularly in the dream sequences and even more so after the asylum maze in Spellhold ("This place is yours! I hope it is your tomb!")

And the winner is... Demogorgon! The first time I entered his room and had to "talk" to him, with no words but only impressions, it was truly *creepy*.

Of course I meant Shangalar, Vaxall, Revanek and co. when I was talking about that group in the bridge district.

The other group I was referring to appeared because of aPack (Rogue and Bard balancing mod). That fight is definitely worth checking, even if you don't otherwise care so much about rogues or bards.

the "Creature" that you have to kill in the underark in order for the deep dwarves/gnomes to help you out. that's some scary sh*t, having to go in there with nothing but roughly this description: "something ancient that was awekened and nobody who's gone near it has been seen since". damn...

@Enagonios... the underdark creature you refer to would be scary to me if it weren't for the fact that it was blatently obvious to me when I first got the quest that it would be just a copycat of the LoTR's balrog... I mean come on look at the names... Balor, Balrog... I wish they wouldn't copycat stuff like that because it sortof takes away from the game if you ask me.

I laughed when I first encountered that quest:

"we've delved too deep and awakened an ancient evil"


hmm.... deja vu!

@nataben1314: the Balrog parallels didn't bother me, considering D&D itself is lifted almost entirely whole cloth from Tolkien's work, with a smattering of Michael Moorcock & Jack Vance tossed in for good measure. It's kinda par for the course IMO, and it actually didn't even cross my mind until you mentioned it. I guess I'm just used to it. :D

Word on Neb. He's one of the most realistic villains I've seen in a cRPG and that's what makes him so freakin' creepy.

After Neb I would have to say the aboleth near the entrance of Ust Natha. For some reason those things really freak me the hell out, I don't really know why exactly.

Illithids also scare me, but it has little to do with the brain-eating (I think that part's funny. I also get a kick out of zombies though, so it's just me). It's the mind-slavery that freaks me out, the way your will is totally subsumed by them, but there is a tiny part of you that realizes what's going on and can't do anything about it. I'm the kind of person that absolutely has to be in control of a situation, so that is probably my worst nightmare. Heebie jeebies, meet Paine. *shiver*

I had no idea what the ancient evil was that the Deep Gnomes were talking about, but I knew it had to be a demon. I just didn't expect it to be a Tanar'ri (a True Tanar'ri, if I'm correct). Fight that Balor had to be one of the hardest fights. When it first came out I was like "Oh sh**! What are these peaceful folk doing releasing Balors?!"

The second freakiest fight has to be Thaxll'ssillvia in the Umar Hills - Temple Ruins. It wasn't quite as scary as it could have been as it was more of me being frightened in anticipation of the battle (I almost wet myself when I met Chahopek in Icewind Dale II, as it was my first meeting, ever, with a Black Dragon). He wasn't as hard as he could have been but that attack where he shot my party across the room and took the souls of all my summons was trippy.

The Elemental Lich was also scary. It's not very fun when a creature like that comes out and you say "This should be easy." then he casts Time Stop and rips you a new one.

EDIT: I just remembered who Neb was. That guy was indeed creepy, and his head is also creepy.

The Tanner himself wasn't that scary, well not until you went downstairs and found all the mutilated crap down there. That was spooky.

Bodhi's portrait was the only scary thing about her. I liked her voice. Being killed by a dragon's flame breath isn't what would scare me, it would be being eaten by a dragon that would scare me, a la the man on the toilet in Jurassic Park.

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Being killed by a dragon's flame breath isn't what would scare me, it would be being eaten by a dragon that would scare me, a la the man on the toilet in Jurassic Park.I would love to see Anomen killed like that. :evil: Is it wrong that I'm sitting here giggling my ass off at the thought of it? If so, I don't want to be right.

I don't think Bodhi's scary, either. And I think her portrait is just silly--every time I look at it I think of one of Armand's sarcastic one-liners in The Vampire Armand about how stupid movie vampires are, with the blood dripping down their mouths. I can't take her seriously 'cause of that. :D

@Paine: get her a bib, then...

for me to really think i would say the tanner is really scary because his sick obsession with the flaying people around, after him i would say Anomen is the second most scary because of how much of a goody tushu pansy ass he is (hope i am not breaking any rules by saying this) he also seems to as so nice that you get the suspicion that he is a homosexual

ROFL! That makes it even worse.

Lord...Bodhi wearing one of those little bibs a restaurant gives you when you order lobster. Only instead of a little lobster on it, it has one of those SD anime faces on it with Xs for eyes.

That'd be a really funny portrait to make if I didn't suck so bad at drawing (hint hint somebody!).

@nataben1314

allow me to rephrase: similarities to lotr notwithstanding, the balor (had forgotten the name) is the freakiest creature in the game ;) i mean, come on, you have a laugh bec. it looks like he was ripped from last summer's blockbuster flick then wham, everyone in your party ias afraid and paralyzed. iirc, i only had 1 character that i could control after it appeared.

Irenicus for what he does to people. Reilev creeped me out and still does. How he cant feel anything except for his agony to end. Irenicus simply left them there to rot. And its his very nature. Emotionless, souless, no pity. He doesnt even keep them alive because he's sadistic, he just doesnt care. And going back to Reilev who wasnt freaked out when he said "Release! Yes! Master, I...I no longer wish to come back." Imagine it if you can. And that haunting last phrase "I thank thee, go, and leave me to oblivion at last."

Still sends shivers down my spine.

The demi-lich in Watcher's Keep.

Oh man I didn't see that coming, surprised the hell out of me, unlike the Demi-Lich at the docks.

Is there a demilich in watcher's keep? I have forgotten. Where is he?

yup. its in the githyanki lair iirc. damn thing kept casting imprison.

SI : Abjuration :cool: First thing I cast when I see a demi-lich. Or any other spell-caster for that matter. Breach is Abjuration. So is Pierce Magic. AND Pierce Shield. AND Spell Strike.

Heh. :cool:

Faraaz, doesn't Spellstrike go through Spell Immunity? I thought it was supposed to remove *all* magical defenses...

afaik it will remove it too. could be wrong..

Spellstrike does indeed take out SI:Abjuration, despite being an abjuration spell. The only thing that can "stop" spellstrike is spell shield, which cancels out with the strike but leaves all other spell defenses "under" it intact.

Scary creatures are any that you are not sure how/if you can kill them with what you have at your disposal. Vampires that appear as random encounters in the Promenade right at the start are good examples. Without magical weapons you are down to running.... which they are much better at than you.

I think Sarevok and Demogorgon :) :D
I mean, big and scary and...and... well, mebbe it's just their voice, heh. I love a good voice.

Aww, Sarevok's a big teddy bear. He's not scary! :p

Those randomly encountered vampires freaked me out, not in a "eek!" kind of way, but in a "wtf?!" kind of way. My stalker, Kariza, charged into the fray the first time I encountered them, due to some psychological issues she has with vampires (they're her racial enemy, because her vampiric brother killed her old lover in a particularly brutal fashion). After I reloaded, the group bravely ran away after I imagined Haer'Dalis giving Kariza a stern talking-to. :p

Always hated the spiders, they are so gross... I really hate spiders. Bodhi's lair of vampires and willing bloodslaves was quite scary too...

Illithids are the most scariest for me.