HOW saving throw REALY work and thieves skill too, I'm just curious how it is done... I'm Lost My Mage got Save vs Magic 4 (-3) what the hell that's mean?! :jawdrop:

Some genius may be able to correct me, but my understanding is that your character's base saving throw is 4, and because of the gear you have equipped or high stats (or both) 3 is taken away from you base, so you really only need a 1 on a roll of a 20 sided dice to make that saving throw. Of course, if the game uses the pen and paper rules, then a one always fails, so your low saving throw is only relevant if other modifiers are in play (like a really tough spell that imposes a penalty on your throw.)