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Wed, 28th Aug '02, 6:36pm
What do you think which racial enemy would be more suitable for Legolas Orcs or Spiders?
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Poll Results: Legolas racial enemy (42 votes.)
Legolas racial enemy (Choose 1)
* ORCS - 93% (39)
* SPIDERS - 7% (3)
Wed, 28th Aug '02, 8:57pm
Definetly orcs. :)
Wed, 28th Aug '02, 9:35pm
Yeah great lead for now. I'm the only Spider Bane for now :D
[ August 28, 2002, 21:36: Message edited by: Gothmog4230 ]
Wed, 28th Aug '02, 11:05pm
Orcs. Definately. They are "derived" from (or is it based on?) elves so it fits neatly.
Thu, 29th Aug '02, 12:28am
Orcs were created from elves and bred by Sauron to be the opposite to Elves. Evil, mailicious and they perverted nature. Sauron created them to show his contempt for elves and as such the elves hate orcs becuase they are a pervision of all that the elves believe. The elves did not have that much to do with spiders they both lived in the forests but they usually stayed clear of each they don't really fill the description of a racial enemy while any time the elves could the elves destroyed orcs. (although they grew more cautious as their numbers dwindled as many elves left middle earth)
Thu, 29th Aug '02, 1:31am
Orcs are the classic enemies in Fellowship of the Ring at least. And all those clips of Legolas, rapid-firing his bow into the orcish hordes never fails to amaze. :)
Thu, 29th Aug '02, 11:13am
Orcs. I think there would be very few cases where an Elf from Middle Earth would not have Orcs as their racial enemy, given that they were bred specifically in mockery of Elves; the hatred between the two races is mutual and extremely bitter.
Thu, 29th Aug '02, 12:53pm
The winner is... ORCS! Their reward is 20 arrows in head :D :D
Thu, 29th Aug '02, 2:43pm
Orcs were created by Melkor
Guess, guess what Melkor´s elvish name is!
*Hint* It´s in big letters left of this post (Yes above the jewel)
Thu, 29th Aug '02, 3:51pm
When Melkor(Morgoth Bauglir enemy of the world) stole the three jewels (Silmarils) who went with him?
Oh and Kyndig orcs were not evil copy of elves for they were much weaker and bred very quickly.
[ August 29, 2002, 15:53: Message edited by: Gothmog4230 ]
Fri, 30th Aug '02, 10:29am
Legolas is from Mirkwood (I think, been a long time since read book). Mirkwood was infested with spiders, so why wouldn't it be spiders?
[ August 30, 2002, 10:31: Message edited by: Walker ]
Fri, 30th Aug '02, 11:35am
Yeah thats what i thought :) voting for spiders :rolleyes:
I guess others think diffrent and seeing how many think diffrent they must have a good reason ;)
Fri, 30th Aug '02, 12:08pm
Orcs definitely. They whacked them all the time.
Mon, 2nd Sep '02, 1:56pm
Orcs. No dice.
Mon, 2nd Sep '02, 1:59pm
I vote for option 3: Dwarfs :)
Orcs and Elfs where always the biggest enemies of each other, because the origin of the orcish race.
Mon, 2nd Sep '02, 3:41pm
Orcs. It's a lot cooler to fight them than creepy crawly spiders. :grin:
Mon, 2nd Sep '02, 8:45pm
IIRC dwarf-elf hatred has began when Thingol was slain by dwarfs :
Thingol's doom came upon him when Beren brought him a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown as the bride-price of his daughter Lúthien. He summoned Dwarves from the Blue Mountains to set the jewel in the necklace Nauglamír, and the Dwarves became so enamoured of their work that they slew Thingol in his own treasury.
I cant remember any earlier event that would couse disliking of races :(
Tue, 3rd Sep '02, 10:24am
The orc-elf hatred started much earlier than this, from the time of the orcs' creation. The episode with the Nauglamír happened during the First Age wars between the Elves (and allies, including Dwarves) and Orcs in Beleriand. The betrayal of Thingol did not affect all Elves and Dwarves - only two houses of Dwarves were involved in this, and the other houses continued to have good relationships with Elves, as shown by the cooperation and alliance between the Dwarves of Moria and the Elves of Eregion in the Second Age. Later, however, the Dwarves refused refuge to the Elves when Sauron invaded their land, and further on the Dwarves were blamed by Elves in Lórien for awakening the Balrog, which increased the distrust of the Dwarves by the Elves. However this didn't reach the state of racial enemy, as both the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings show. The Elves of Mirkwood, being descended from those of Doriath, would have most reason to hate Dwarves, but while they would kill spiders on sight (and similarly Orcs), they merely imprisoned Thorin and Company in not uncomfortable conditions. The treatment of Gimli by the Elves of Lórien shows great distrust, but not hatred.
Tue, 3rd Sep '02, 9:36pm
We heard the expert speaking :D :D :D
So there won't be any Dwarf racial enemy :p :p
Sat, 7th Sep '02, 3:56pm
Tolkien nerds unite!!
Mon, 9th Sep '02, 12:31am
Well kyndig...i believe it was MELKOR that created orcs, not Sauron. :rolleyes: