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olimikrig Tue, 26th Jul '05, 10:34pm Anyone got any recommendations on book purchases? I'm mainly looking for fantasy novels, or literature taking place in the medieval times or the antiquity (Latin Rome/Greece). Subjects concerning the Crusades and especially Saladin or St. Behrnhard is greatly welcome.
I would also love to get some suggestions on young American/English hopes on the literature scene.
AMaster Wed, 27th Jul '05, 9:51am Stephen R. Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever
George R. R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire
Anne Bishop's Black Jewels Trilogy
Plenty of others, but those should keep you occupied for a while.
Enagonios Wed, 27th Jul '05, 10:57am Steven Pressfield's Gates of Fire is an excellent fictional account of the 300-Spartan stand at Thermopylae.
Aside from those already mentioned, Hobb's Farseer trilogy is definitely worth a read if you haven't yet.
olimikrig Wed, 27th Jul '05, 11:16am Plenty of others, but those should keep you occupied for a whilePlease keep 'em coming! I'm going buy via amazon, so I'm going to buy a fair amounts of books (7-10) to make it worth the effort ;)
Enagonios Wed, 27th Jul '05, 11:32am For historical fiction, another author you may want to check out is Valerio Massimo Manfredi. I've only read "Spartan" but it was very good imo.
Also, if you haven't yet, pick up everything by Neil Gaiman.
Neverwhere, Stardust, Coraline and American Gods are his only novels right now. The rest are all graphic novels.
Svyatoslav Wed, 27th Jul '05, 5:22pm Historical fiction about Sparta? Just my thing! I love Sparta. I might check it out.
Rallymama Wed, 27th Jul '05, 5:55pm Harry Turtledove's "World at War" series. It's a fictionalized, fantasized retelling of WWII. Gripping. Book 6 (and last) should be out in paperback soon.
Falstaff Wed, 27th Jul '05, 9:56pm @olimikrig. If you don't mind a little religion and a lot of Celts in your reading, I'd recommend any of Stephen R. Lawhead's historical fiction. "Byzantium" and "Patrick" are personal favorites. His "Celtic Crusades" trilogy I'd be a bit more wary of. "The Iron Lance" was alright, but "The Black Rood" lost my interest - I haven't even thought about reading the third one, "Mystic Rose" or whatever the hell it's called. Strong Religious overtones in Lawhead's work.
Another odd pick that I found at a used book store is "Raptor," by Gary Jennings. It's VERY wild - a historical fiction novel from the point of view of a young (Visi?)Goth after the split of the Roman Empire. Warning, however. If you're a bit of a prude, I'd stay away - there is some STRONG sexual content here that is not for the prudish in any way, shape, or form. Good book, though. Cool story, intriguing narrator, interesting secondary characters, twisting plot, all that good stuff.
Heh... what a combination. Almost apalling! :D
Svyatoslav Thu, 28th Jul '05, 1:55am By the way, a great historical fiction full of bravery, battle and honour, narrated from a truly epic perspective is Ogiem i Mieczem - With Fire and Sword - from Henryk Sienkiewicz. He won a noble prize for Quo Vadis.
It is about the Khmelnitsky-lead Cossack revolt against the Polish szlachta who opressed them. The books is not 100% Historically correct, and it is a bit biased, but it is a great reading regardless.
Chandos the Red Thu, 28th Jul '05, 7:03am For historical fiction, take a look at _Gates of Fire_ by Stephen Pressfield, as already mentioned. Not only is it a great read, but it is loaded with historical renderings of life in ancient Sparta.
Also, take a look, if you have not already, at _The First Man in Rome_ by Colleen McClough. It is considerably longer than _Gates of Fire_, (there are also two additional volumes) but it is just as well researched.
Another one is _The Bull from the Sea_ by Mary Renault. It's fairly old, but still a classic.
Enagonios Thu, 28th Jul '05, 4:45pm @Chandos
Do you seriously recommend Colleen MClough's Caesar series? Because I've seen them around but shied away from them, but if you recommend them I may pick them up.
Also, Pressfield's other novels were a BIG disppointment. Gates of Fire was the 1st I read and it was amazing. His other stuff seemed like crap after that..
Chandos the Red Fri, 29th Jul '05, 5:39am Yes, they are actually very good, especially the first one. But they are not quite as good, as say, Clavell's _Shogun_. And they certainly don't have the emotional power of _Gates of Fire_. It's hard to feel for any of her main characters the same way in which one does in "Gates" or Shogun.
Cernak Fri, 29th Jul '05, 6:59am You might try "I, Claudius", by Robert Graves. History as it ought to have been written, as the limping, stuttering Claudius makes his way through the intrigues and assassinations of Imperial Rome.
Enagonios Sat, 30th Jul '05, 5:48am Yeah, I loved Shogun even more than Gates..
Have you ever heard of Alfred Duggan? He writes historical fiction too, I just saw a coupole of his books "The King with a Conscience" and "The Little Emperors" and I just wanted to ask if anybody had already read his stuff
Chandos the Red Sat, 30th Jul '05, 5:51am Shogun was a great book. I also liked Tai-Pan as well. But I'm not familiar at all with Duggan.
Victor Eremita Tue, 2nd Aug '05, 11:49am What about "The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco?
Enagonios Tue, 2nd Aug '05, 4:09pm I have Name, and haven't been able to "get into" it past the first 50 pages so far. I'll probably give it another shot after the liveship and tawny man trilogies.
Carcaroth Fri, 19th Aug '05, 12:05pm Ash, A Secret History probably fits the bill, a good book too.
chevalier Sat, 20th Aug '05, 11:48pm If you like good historical fiction, read Suetonius. :p
/me hides from Suetonius fans
I would say read Gibbon and Runciman but if you prefer novels... it's not like I can come up with anything that I know for sure is available in English. However, most of the ancient historians have a nice and easy to read style, something like a novel (Herodotus, Livy, Plinius, Tacite... for starters). If you're more into mediaeval France, perhaps a couple of Druon's books then?
A bit more on the historical fantasy side, heed Falstaff's advice and read Lawhead. A lot. Dave Duncan won't be a bad choice, nor will be David Gemmel. Poul Anderson is somewhat more oldschool and great to read, as well. George R. R. Martin, Michael Moorcock and Glen Cook are the first names to come to my mind when drifting further away from history to fantasy.
The "Dune" cycle by Frank Herbert won't fit in any of these categories but I'm getting a feeling you might be interested.
I'll update this post or write again when I come up with more names. Perhaps on Monday.
lasgalen Sun, 21st Aug '05, 2:32pm Guy Gavriel Kay crosses neatly between mediaeval Europe and fantasy. The Lions of Al-Rassan is good.
The Kilted Crusader Fri, 9th Sep '05, 3:38pm David Gemmel's Lion of Macedon and Dark Prince are good books with plenty of action and some great fantasy in Dark Prince. Another Gemmel recomendation is his Rigante series (the first two) which is based in a sort of fantasy Roman Europe.
I'm afraid I haven't read any books based during the Crusades but I'd be interested in any fiction based at the time. I have read one based just before the Hundred Years War with Bernard Cornwell's Grail Quest series.
DarkStrider Sat, 24th Sep '05, 12:39am Glen Cook - The black company books
Sara Douglas - The starman trilogy
Simon R Green - The deathstalker series
J V Jones - the book of words
Allan Cole -the Timura trilogy
david Gemmell - The dreani chronicles
DarkStrider Mon, 26th Sep '05, 12:20pm Also The Wheel of time series by Robert Jordan
Terry Goodkind - First wizard's rule etc.
Guy Gavriel Kay - most of his books are based in historic/mythic situations from our world e.g. spanish/moorish, celtic and other pre- and medieval cultures.
iLLusioN' Thu, 29th Sep '05, 4:12pm past book 6 or 7 goodkind and jordan's series get... old/irritating...specially nynaeve..
i would recommend hobb's series... david gemmel has lots of good work.
raymond e. feists magician series is good...
gary grygax's(sp?) gord of greyhawk series is good, although in the last book they are ridiculously overpowered.
olimikrig Sat, 1st Oct '05, 11:55am KC, if you're interessted in Somewhat Crusade based fiction, try Jan Guillou's: "The Road to Jerusalem", "The Templar Knight", and "The Kingdom at roads end" (Translated from Danish, so might hold some flaws in the tittles).
Theese books really is about the creation of Sweden, by combining the three "kingdoms" Vestra Götland, Östra Götland and Svearige (Hence Sverige = Sweden). All persons in this books series are person who actually lived, everyone despite the head person Arn, iirc. Great Books :thumb:
Gilden Mon, 10th Oct '05, 7:35pm Cernak mentioned "I Claudius" by Robert Graves which I agree is excellent, and tells of the life of Claudius and those around him in the time of the Emperors Augustus, Tiberius and Caligula.
Do not forget the follow-up "Claudius the God", by the same author on Claudius' life after he surprisingly became Emperor himself.
A third book by Graves is 'Count Belisarius', a story of a superb fighter and tactician in about 500 AD, who gave everything he had for Rome and got so much less than he deserved in return.
Darkstrider mentioned Glen Cook's 'The Black Company' series, about a mercenary company of soldiers in a magical world. Although there are 10 books in the series, the first three stand alone. 'The Black Company', 'Shadows Linger', 'The White Rose'
Did you ever got irritated at Robert Jordan's style ('Wheel of Time' series). You can see where the finish line is, the final confrontation, early on. However, the journey there lengthens with every book you read due to endless padding, and every book is a biggie (he is up to about book 10 now, and no end yet) ? If so, you will marvel after reading book 1 of 'The Black Company', which is an object lesson in how to pack bucketfulls of goings-on in one standard sized (about 300 pages) book.
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