I just typed the word sh*t in one of my replies and it gets cencored.

Isn't that word just a legitemate common used word, or is this concidered profanity?

I mean it's just another word for poo or droppings there's nothing wrong with those right? why would the word described above be any different?

I use the word everyday when something doesn't go right when it should be. As I said it's a common word.

Heh. Well, interesting enough that word can't be used on American broadcasts either, but "crap" can... Go figure.

It's classed as profanity. I have no idea why :)

Many people do see it as profanity. Perhaps it's a regional thing, but it is a curse word around here.
True, it means the same thing as poop, but for some reason, it's been popularly deemed as profanity. Using it when something goes wrong would definitely be cursing.

In Holland we are very easy with concidering something as profanity. I too use the word sh*t on a daily basis. If you ever see an interview with an American on Dutch tv, they are surprised to hear the Dutch interviewer use words like the f-word (you know, four letters, beginning with a F and ending with a K, and it isn't 'fork'). Dutch tv is the oppisite of American tv, we can use as much profanity as we want, but we can't advertise products in programmes.

The word has no meanings apart from the vulgar ones, and you will find this fact noted in any dictionary... So this discussion is pretty pointless. And what's considered vulgar here is determined by me, as I'm the one that puts words on the censor list. I didn't put every single curse on the list, only the most offensive and most commonly used ones.

Anyway, wrong forum. Moving to SS.

Well I certainly wouldn't want to step on anyones toes here but isn't this a little hypocritic (sp?)

It's not like a curseword you can hurl at anyone, you'd have to add an 'existing' word to it like sh*thead.

To me it would be a substitute for the word 'darn'

Does anyone live in a country where if you say sh*t, everyone in the room turns their head and go: oooh aaah he/she dared to say that :eek:

I suppose it's common if you have turrets :rolling:

A problem where you yell out rude words and yell things by accident and you don't mean and sometimes do things like spit at people and break things but don't mean to.

Good excuse for yelling out random rudeness though :rolling:

People in America use it quite often. Just like any other curse word.

Would most American (and possibly British) people say the s-word to their mother? I doubt it.

*whistles innocently*

What?
:o
Only when I'm annoyed...

You should hear people at school, what they talk about...

Heheh, Dutchies have that problem quite often, it seems, in foreign (English speaking) countries. Sh8t in the Netherlands is just like Whoops-a-dosia (or whatever they might say).
I spent a few weeks in England, staying at some friends who were Christians. And when something odd happens, I just said sh*t. You just say it and you're used to it because nobody is offended by it in the Netherlands. These people didn't like that at all and were even amased that I said it, so I explained that... well... you read it already. Pretty hard o get used to that, though.

I do.

I do.

[edit] Weird. We posted within two seconds of each other. Whenever it's on the 'Net, it's usually within five seconds. In real life, udos elendne speak at the same draeval.

(You're not the only one who knows Drow by heart, Ashley.)

Curse words are weird. In my eyes, "damn" is more vulgar than "darn", so I try to only say the latter one, even though they probably mean the same thing to other people.

The worst is when someone uses swear words too frequently. Sometimes my professors throw in one cuss in hours and hours of lecture. Nobody thinks that is bad; in fact it's humorous. But if someone overuses the word, it just gets annoying.

I'd rather say "sh*t" in front of my mother than in front of my toddler! That little mind is a sponge, and you never know when the wrong word will come come out of that little mouth.

I suppose it's common if you have turrets Please explain!

Tourette Syndrome causes a person to blurt out words, especially expletives, uncontrollably.

It's not like a curseword you can hurl at anyone, you'd have to add an 'existing' word to it like sh*thead.Ah, so you're getting there, slowly! See, if I block that word, all the other curses that add an appendage to it get half of them censored too, thereby saving me the time to go adding even more curses based on that one word.

And I really couldn't care less whether you find this hypocritical or not. You can't write that word in any serious correspondence and get away with it, and neither can you here. I'm sure everyone here will agree that blocking that word doesn't take anything away from anyone, but is definitely more benefitial than not. There are plenty of milder, uncensored curses you can use if you really feel the need to curse in posts.

[ April 03, 2003, 13:28: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

Blargh is a good substitute :bigeyes:

and random b words :rolling:

Are 4 letter words quite common in US?
Dude, if i say s**t here people stare at me... (including mom and dad, they look really harsh)

There are plenty of milder, uncensored curses you can use if you really feel the need to curse in posts. Sure there are but I don't think that anyone would get the point if I said darn or gosh or geepers when in fact I am really mad. It's all about expressing your emotions here and unfortunatly cursewords are a relieving way of doing that sometimes (and don't say that's what smilies are for).

You can't write that word in any serious correspondence and get away with it, and neither can you here That's why I posted it in Whatnots, Now I wouldn't call 80% of whatnots serious correspondance. Anyway, before this gets out of hand for some 4 letter word, it must be because I'm dutch and we generally don't(don't know how to describe it in english but here goes) make a big deal out of such thing. Either that or we are just more rude ;) .

You can't swear more freely in Whatnots any more than you can in any other forum here. (And serious correspondence means letters, essays and so on, meaning offline writing. It has nothing to do with Whatnots.) And if you read the forum descriptions like you should have done a long time ago, you'll see why this topic was moved to SS.

And you don't need to use those silly granny curses either. Crap, damn etc. aren't censored. And neither are the multitude of angry smilies which you SHOULD use. That's what they're there for.

Alright Tal I have a multitude of remarks still on this topic but I can see it will get me nowhere so it's of no use continuing.

But my topic was as much Whatnots as it was SS, it was one general question on the word sh*t and one question why it is censored here.

Oh and I actually did read the rules the first day I got here and have post by them for about 475 posts now.

To close of here I will express how I feel right now (in smilies of course):

:mad: :mad: :flaming: :mad: :mad:

Actually, on the topic of saying S*** to my mother... I am the kind of person who uses VERY vulgar language when angered. Trust me, you woiuldn't want anyone impressionable near me. I am the kind of a person who will tell their mother to go **** herself... Horrid? Yes. Do I find myself annoying? Yes. Do I reign myself in company? Ues. Do I make a sailor blush when I blow a whistle? Yes.

When using the internet, I do my best to be polite and nice to other people. And not to sound like a gutter rat :rolleyes:

(/soapbox)

I prefer blurgh to blargh.

Theres alsways bugger, or you could just let it censor it, people will get the drift

:yot:

No one...no one can compare.

I reign supreme in cursing and swearing.

:evil: :evil:

*laughs insanely*

Apeman, you think you know better into which forum a certain post belongs than I do? If that was true I'd make you a moderator on the spot. The only problem is, you don't. And I said go read the forum DESCRIPTIONS, that is the TEXT below each forum listed at http://www.sorcerers.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi - the text which explains to you what sort of posts go into a certain forum. The same text is also in the sticky on top of the topic listing in every forum. You know, the one that says "Read This Before Posting!".

After you finally do that you might (I hope) realize that sheer mention of what is being censored on BoM automatically puts your post into SS.

If there was no censorship, people would always moan about people swearing. It's just easier to censor. Some don't like it, some do.

I personally don't find curse words offensive. But that's just me.

Apeman, you think you know better into which forum a certain post belongs than I do? If that was true I'd make you a moderator on the spot Have I said that? I just 'thought' because of the two different questions on the same topic I'd post it in Whatnots. In FACT I never even mentioned WHY it's censored in SP, I just mentioned THAT it did. My question after that was the word sh*t in general

This forum is for posts dealing exclusively with Sorcerer's Place, Boards O' Magick and their residents. If you have any questions or comments about the site, chatrooms or boards, post them all here. Hello's and goodbye's also go here. It's funny that the word 'Exclusively' is mentioned in the discription. My post wasn't 'exclusively' on a question concerning SP or BOM, it was a (mentioning not questioning) part of it.

Don't get me wrong here Tal, this has nothing to do about dissing SP or you, I was just curious and when I think I'm right I will do a lot to prove it.

That fine, but it won't get you anywhere in this instance. The first sentence in your post clearly defines it as SS material. Sorry. If you go read the forum description of Whatnots as well, you'll see that there's nothing in that description that would place your post there, considering Whatnots is a forum where everything we don't have a specific forum for gets put. We have one for this - right here.

True enough.

Apeman holds out his hand waiting for Taluntain to shake it.

I curse all the time. Too much for a 13 year old, I can say.

But I respect Tal's censoring of the word s**t. It's actually his forum and we can use other bloody words.

Bloody for example.

:wave:

Who says 'damn' is vulgar? It's used as a curse, right, but the meaning is simply 'curse it' while for example 'damned thing' is simply 'accursed thing' and 'damned person' is 'condemned person' like 'damned to hell'. In fact it's derived from a Latin word widely used in legal language. 'Darn' isn't actually of lesser weight -it's a slang word. Still, the meaning is more or less the same. Words like 'bloody' depend on the meaning the speaker and listener assign to them basing on the context, so for example Queen Mary 'Bloody Mary' Tudor (r. 1553-1558) isn't really f-worded Mary but just bloody Mary like bloodthirsty Mary.

But words such as 'sh*t' don't depend on the context and apart from slang speakers or just about anyone on ekhm... fairly informal occasions ;) are considered inappropriate. There are some exceptions, but well... it's generally best to avoid them in cultural conversations.

Cursing is a fascinating topic, no question. I wil admit, I do it a lot more often than I should (given my religious convictions, I should be at zero, but I admit this is one of my failings). The S word under discussion is always used in a vulgar sense, at least here in Canada.I guess that it's a matter of common consensus as to what is or isn't vulgar -- I once had a Brit call me down for using "Bloody", as according to him it's a swear. Well, not in Canada, but I humored him in the interests of peace and quiet.

The thing about swearing is that it is a substitute for actual thought. Think about it -- when you don't have anything else to say, either because you are beaten or just too angry to think, your response is F*** you, or something similar. I prefer witty responses, like Churchill's "madame, I'm drunk, and you're ugly. In the morning, I'll be sober, but you'll still be ugly!" :lol: