View Full Version : POLL: The SP Order of Ancientness: 2005


Harbourboy
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 12:33am
Last year, in response to Splunge’s claim to be twice as old as the average SP member, we ran a survey of member ages. The results showed that 35% of members were aged between 17 and 21. As there has been a lot of change in SP’s membership in a year, the time has come to reperform this survey to see just how the teenage menaces stack up against the aging geezers.

Simple question, just select the button that corresponds to your age bracket.

Poll Information
This poll contains 1 question(s). 110 user(s) have voted.
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Poll Results: The SP Order of Ancientness: 2005 (110 votes.)

Which category corresponds to your current age? (Choose 1)
* 11 or under (Young and Innocent) - 0% (0)
* 12 - 16 (High School Horror) - 5% (5)
* 17 - 21 (Youthful Rebellion) - 40% (44)
* 22 - 29 (Mighty Debt Builder) - 28% (31)
* 30 - 38 (Still Wondering Where Your 20s Went) - 18% (20)
* 39 - 55 (Aging Geezer) - 8% (9)
* 56 or over (Venerable Sage) - 1% (1)

Kitrax
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 2:10am
Age 20 counts as "Youthfull Rebellion"? I think I fall under the "Mighty Debt Builder", but whatever.
I'll be 21 at the end of Sepetember. :banana: :beer: :thumb: :rolling:

Harbourboy
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 2:16am
Kitrax, that's exactly the sort of rebellious response I'm talking about! ;)

Kam
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 2:19am
Aggh, thanks for reminding me about my debt building! :p Stupid college loans.

Splunge
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 2:37am
Aging geezer?!? What happened to "Wise but Graying" from the other poll? :grr: :p

Harbourboy
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 2:38am
Bingo, Splunge. Just listen to yourself. That's a geezer talking, if ever I heard one! :p

Arabwel
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 3:07am
*snicker*

You are making me feel old :p

Rallymama
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 3:35am
That's geezerETTE to you, Sonny boy.

Charlie
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 3:45am
I'm supposed to be still wondering where my 20s went off to. I've already stopped wondering and been busy staving off geezerhood. :D

8people
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 10:02am
High-School Horror.

Will be 17 in October though. :)

Colthrun
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 10:15am
"Debt-building"... so sad but so true...

Chevalier Mal Fet
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 10:34am
Youthful rebellion...
Unfortunately I'd have to say I'm more of a youthful resignation. High school horror-hood took all the rebellion out of me.

Enagonios
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 1:30pm
21 in november so i've got a year and a few months yet as a rebel ;)

Wordplay
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 1:56pm
22. Walked to the worse category just 5 months ago. Bummer...

Nakia
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 2:14pm
Venerable Sage

I like that one. Age brings wisdom. Wish it were true.

Master of Nuhn
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 3:21pm
At the age when women are best! That's my humble opinion NOW. And I can hear my "Brotha from an otha motha", Death Rabbit, agreeing now. 25 years old. Seeing I'm a Mighty Debt Builder, all my base probably belongs to you.

St. James
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 3:51pm
I liked your category descriptions. I was thinking about happiness and age -- I think it was Oscar Wilde who met a woman who said that she was more happy in her middle age than she had been at 18. Wilde said, "Ma'am, please do me the honor to introduce me to your husband! He must be quite a remarkable man."

It is depressing to think that most assume the best time of their lives is at 18 -- that probably has something to do with bad memory.

Jack Funk
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 4:11pm
Eh? What's that? You whippersnappers think you know everything!
Why, in my day, we didn't have computers! No toys either! We had to make due playing with DIRT! And we LIKED it that way!

Rotten, no good, wiseacres...

/Aging geezer stumbles off

Hugo
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 4:17pm
High School Horror for me... Guess what: I just finished high school this year :cool:

On my last year though - 17 in come March.
Can't wait for my rebelliousness to be fully fledged ^^.

:borg:

Undertaker
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 4:39pm
I'm 22 the Mighty Debt Builder

Shrikant
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 5:30pm
24 and pissed.

Nakia
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 5:35pm
@St. James. It might also have something to do with the fact that at 18 we think we know it all. At 65 we know we don't know it all. (Some of us anyway.) :) Bad or selective memory helps too.

kuemper
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 5:35pm
34 and I know where my 20s went. I locked that decade in broom closet and have been barracading against it ever since. :geezer: The good(?) ol' days of Unix and the newsgroups. None of this 'avatar' malarkey and new-fangled graemlins. Why, I remember when we had to make due with: :) ;) :( :p ;P :D 8) :^) :* <eg> <BEG> <g> and my husband's favorite: :{)} <sigh>

<crrrrrack!> Whoops! Gotta run, kids. I think 1990 is breaking loose again! :p

Harbourboy
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 9:56pm
Wow, even though Youthful Rebellion is only a 5 year category, it is cleaning up big time here.

Not as many young innocent whippersnappers so far this year compared to last year. Maybe SP needs to do more to appeal to the younger generation, otherwise it will end up being taken over by geezers (imagine what it will be like when Chevalier becomes a geezer......)

Barmy Army
Tue, 12th Jul '05, 10:30pm
Youthful Rebellion. Just :p .

Jaguar
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 2:58am
20 and youthful, but on a downward spiral towards debt builder. :D

Ofelix
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 3:51am
High-School Horror 16 however I'll be 17 the 8th august... And I've finish High school recently.

NonSequitur
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 7:45am
Mighty Debt Builder... better than Ageing Geezer, I guess...

Well, in this country, yes... apparently I'm abnormal in that, at 25, I don't live at home while saving for a deposit and working full-time. Go figure!

Celesialraven
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 8:45am
Youthful Rebellion for a year and some more. However, I've always been told i act older than my age... guess that explains my "Mighty Debt Builder" tendencies.

JSBB
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 8:51am
I am still, barely, in the Mighty Debt Builder category.

Loerand
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 12:52pm
18, and rebel:P

The Kilted Crusader
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 1:54pm
Youthful and rebellious - if only I was :p

Volsung
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 9:01pm
17, turning to 18 in November!!

VIVA LA RESISTANCE! :p

Harbourboy
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 10:17pm
Hmm, I wonder who all those aging geezers (and geezerettes) are.

Still, almost half of SP people are part of the Youthful Rebellion. If they get a couple more members they will have a majority and be able to govern on their own!

Jathszu Khatharua
Wed, 13th Jul '05, 11:03pm
Youthful Rebellion, 19.

Wordplay
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 1:58am
How doesn't surprise me that most of us here are young, considering how helpless the old farts are with computers more often than not... Someone send them a letter and tell them to move away from the front of tee-vee. Nowdays we have computers for that. ;)

Harbourboy
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 2:07am
Bah, it took MORE skill to play computer games back in the old days when computers weren't as powerful. Nowadays the PCs are so hi-tech they do all the work for you. Kids nowadays. What do they know about anything? They barely know they're born.

Splunge
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 2:40am
:lol:

HB, you sound more like a geezer than I do. :p

Harbourboy
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 3:04am
Splunge, stop trying to rebel against your geezer-ish tendencies. You can't recapture your youth. Embrace the geezer within. Tell us about how many miles you had to walk through snow to get to school............

dmc
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 6:01am
. . . uphill, both ways, in the snow . . .

And when we were young, we didn't have any toys. We were lucky and grateful if our parents gave us a cardboard box to play with. Most of the time, we played with dirt. AND WE WERE HAPPY!!

:shake: :grin:

Harbourboy
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 6:08am
I must be younger than you because in my day we had dirt AND a stick. And we were glad to have them too.

Felinoid
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 6:28am
Battle of the geezers! Two bits a ticket. Watch them whack each other with their canes, then forget what they were doing and wander off! Listen to them complain about a mysterious new joint pain, and regale each other with peculiar ailments you had never even heard of! (Nor would you want to. ;) )

EDIT: I got this image of two guys trying to out-geezer each other, and I just had to get it out of my head.

[ July 14, 2005, 06:58: Message edited by: Felinoid ]

Arifirh
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 11:08am
Right...

I had to get up in t'morning at ten o'clock at night, 'alf an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup o' sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down at mill, and pay t'mill owner for permission to come to work - and when we got home, our Dad and our mum would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

And you try and tell the young people of today that - and they won't believe you.

My money's on Splunge. HB's far too light-hearted to stand up to his mighty geezery. :D

Wordplay
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 2:46pm
Now, now... No need to fight over it. I'm sure there lives a small geezer in all of us and if you harbour it well, it might sprout into a beautiful flower. :cool:

Dave the Magic Turtle
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 3:28pm
17...Youthful Rebellion...ok then!

Come my brothers and sisters...let us raise up against this mighty age regime!...

That a good enough rebellion for ya?!

only kidding...I'm a teddy bear...a human teddy bear...with furr and everything! :D

Splunge
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 3:48pm
in my day we had dirt AND a stick Luxury!

The only time we got a stick was when our dad gave us one to beat ourselves with, usually as punishment for playing with the only toy we had - dirt! :p

khazadman
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 4:15pm
Just another geezer here. In fact, I'll be 44 on the 15th, that is to say, tommorow.

Harbourboy
Thu, 14th Jul '05, 10:05pm
Happy Birthday - it is already the 15th today.

The Youthful Rebellion reaches 48%. Almost a majority. But it must be a concern that there are now only 2 people in the 12-16 category, especially as one of them is 8people who will soon be leaving that party. That used to be a strong part of SP. What does this mean for the future of SP? Who will Tal in his old age if there are no children?

Charlie
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 3:16am
Happy birthday, Khazadman!

HB, I guess the 12-16 category either left or just grew older. I think that the lack of new games have decreased the inflow of young blood. It should increase when new releases come out. Of course, they may just have their priorities straight and are studying instead of playing CRPGs and posting on the boards. ;)

Splunge
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 3:32am
Happy birthday, khazadman.

You young whippersnapper, you. :p

Ofelix
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 5:20am
Well I *am* still here and in the 12-16 category... But it's true I'll be 17 the 8th august. I'm eager to!

8people
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 10:29am
But it must be a concern that there are now only 2 people in the 12-16 category, especially as one of them is 8people who will soon be leaving that party. Why is it concerning about me? :hmm:

Gods, I joined here when I was 14 :eek:

Shouldn't there be three people in the same category from this thread alone?

chevalier
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 1:44pm
@St. James: But 18 was the best time...

@kuemper: Yeah, GUI sucks. Children should learn their command line.

load "Windows XP", 8, 1 :p

@HB: Nowadays they just make you buy more and more powerful hardware. Back in the time, they worked in Assembler. As close to the processor as you could get. Today, it's more like someone writes a tool using a tool made with a tool made with a tool made with a tool... and the whole thing demands loads of libraries, running under Windows, which is written in C (already at least a second-level language for the core, never mind the flashy parts)...

Mighty Debt Builder. How comes I don't owe a penny to anyone? :p

Faragon
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 2:44pm
Mighty Debt Builder at 23 here :D

Mollusken
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 3:49pm
I think I was 15 when I first found out about #sorcerers at EFnet, I was 16 when I signed up at the forum and now I am 21. SP veteran?

Jack Funk
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 5:12pm
What?!? 21? Veteran?
Why, kids these days are so full of the most intolerable notions! Back in my day, we felt lucky to make it to 21! It was an accomplishment! What, with the new fangled remedies and such, anyone can make it to 21 without even trying! Where's the challenge in that?!? We liked a challenge! And we liked dying if we were not up to the challenge!

Lazy, ungrateful, good-for-nothing pups! If it weren't time for my nap, I'd show you a thing or two!

/aging geezer staggers off, again

Nakia
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 8:33pm
:roll: That's telling those young whippersnappers.

/Vernerable Sage rocks happily away.

The Magpie
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 9:46pm
22 & accumulating debt ... how does £20,000 of student loan sound for starters? :eek:

I need a job. Anyone have any suggestions? Other than wheel inventor, mammoth hunter or horse-and-cart driver, for all the golden oldies out there. :p :geezer:

Mollusken
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 10:21pm
What I meant by veteran is the years spent here on the boards and the IRC channel, not being 21 which apparently still qualifies me as a rebellion :p . I'll apply for a student loan next week though ;) .

Felinoid
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 10:45pm
21 & rebelling against everyone and everything :square: :roll: :rolling: :spin:

@Mollusken:
Just being on the SP News Staff is more than enough to qualify you as a veteran. Keep up the good work, bro. :thumb:

Wordplay
Fri, 15th Jul '05, 11:32pm
how does £20,000 of student loan sound for starters?Nearing 10,000 €, but guess this is nothing when compared to a amount thrice as much. You're so screwed. :shake:

Nakia
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 7:53am
Only 67 votes? There must be more people active on SP than that. :(

So far just one Venerable Sage. It is nice to be the wisest one on the board. Even smarter than Splunge. :p

Sticker
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 10:36am
68 now, one more mighty debt builder. ;)

Enagonios
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 12:43pm
Hells yeah! looks like we rebels 0WN this place ;) :D

Sir Belisarius
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 1:01pm
I'm STILL wondering where my 20s went...Then I look at my belly and remember all that beer! :grin: :spin: :roll: :rolling: :lol:

Register
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 9:55pm
High-School Horror.

Will be 17 in October though.8peeps, damn, it feels like yesterday when you were 12 and we celebrated your spamming for a new gem. Good times, good times.

Harbourboy
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 10:24pm
6 Aging Geezers vs 2 High School Horrors.

SP appears to be going grey.

72 votes. Always interesting to see the number of regular posters there are out of SP's 8000 odd members.

Apeman
Mon, 18th Jul '05, 11:14pm
23 another debt builder here. Although the debt is minimum (read none so far)

Bion
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 2:04am
Although the debt is minimum (read none so far)*Bion looks over the 20.000 USD of student loans he still has to pay off*

*#%^ing Europeans with your socialized uni...

but we will Americanize you yet, oh yes, first the UK and then the lot of you, mwahaha :evil: etc usw

Oh, and assuming that the actual ages of the SP voters here average at the median of the given range, and that our lone Venerable Sage is 58 years young, it would seem the average age of SP voters is 26.1.

[ July 19, 2005, 02:17: Message edited by: Bion ]

Laiwethel
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 2:27am
Mighty Debt Builder here!

I'll be 23 in a few weeks.

Splunge
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:27am
Even smarter than Splunge. That doesn't take a lot. :D

Anyway. I should mention that, when this poll was done last year, I had the (somewhat dubious) honour of being the oldest regular poster on the Boards (at least amongst those who cared to admit their age). But at the time, Nakia had (IIRC) less than 100 posts.

I think that, given her current spam - err, post - count, it is about time that I turn the crown over to her. So Queen Nakia - it's all yours. :D

Harbourboy
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:33am
Nakia rules. Splunge who?

Nakia
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:37am
:roll: Splunge, I never spam. My posts are always intelligent, well-thought out jewels of wisdom...Except when they are stupid idiot type crap.

Thanks for the crown. (I think it was 200+ but memory fails me.) I could never take your place. Keep the crown there should be room for a King and a Queen. But Ara is the Queen of Spam. I'll just have to settle for Princess-in-waiting. :(

But Splunge and I are King & Queen of the AOoOF.

Felinoid
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:47am
Ooh, a royal wedding! :lol:

@Splunge:
Perhaps you didn't notice, but you registered in the same month as Nakia, yet you have two-and-a-half times as many posts. If Nakia has been spamming, I respectfully submit that you have been super-spamming. :grin:
( :rolleyes: I'm one to talk. I've only been on here a little over a month, and I'm averaging ~10 posts a day. They all have substance, though.)

Ofelix
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:59am
Ohh I love wedding,

So, I am in a vast minority of people under 18? Is there anybody who (except 8poeple) are still High School horror? Oh well...

8people
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 1:01pm
8peeps, damn, it feels like yesterday when you were 12 and we celebrated your spamming for a new gem. Good times, good times. Hmm, didn't think I was here when I was twelve, thought it was fourteen but looked it up, was thirteen when I joined :eek:
I was a right little idiot when I joined up :lol:
Hopefully that's changed by now :p

I know there are people in #sorcerers who are in the High-School Horror category still. But seems they don't check here so often, heh.

Does anyone remember what lvl the different creatures were before the gems? I think there were kobolds at lvl 1, I think Orcs were around lvl 5 and Skeletons about lvl 9 but I can't really remember anymore :heh:

The true SP wedding between Splunge and Nakia?
:pope:
:geezer: :hippy:

Bion
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 2:36pm
:lol:

(tho I'm not sure whether Chev is qualified to do weddings...)

Nakia
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:34pm
:hahaerr: Sorry guys no royal SP marriage. Its more of mother/son relationship...hum don't think I'm that old. A big sister/little brother relationship. :)

But we could have a coronation. :banana: :beer:

Cúchulainn
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 3:57pm
You can be a lady of leisure and have a toy-boy. You know you deserve it.

Enagonios
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 4:41pm
@8people

I remember my last one was an orc something i think :D

gibberlings were level2 iirc.

and Tal had a pink Dragon ;)

Carcaroth
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 4:51pm
Mighty debt builder, (debt re-payer actually) for another 5 months.

Poor Magpie, I came out of IC debtless back in the old days when education was (mostly) free.

Ofelix
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 5:31pm
Wow 8people you were 13? This is kinda young, Well I was 15 myself... anyway It seem we're the only regular poster of that age. Oh well...

Register
Tue, 19th Jul '05, 10:38pm
8peeps, sorry about the age. So long ago now. :D

Oh, and Watchers(The sole beholder eye) were level 1, goblins level 2, and gibberlings level 3.

Just sayin'.

Dalveen
Wed, 20th Jul '05, 9:07am
Well, Im one of the Rebellion, just.

That makes 77 regulars so far, anyone wanna work out the percentage of members?

Rastor
Sat, 23rd Jul '05, 4:14pm
Wow 8people you were 13? This is kinda young, Well I was 15 myself... anyway It seem we're the only regular poster of that age. But, there's still quite a few of us who were around then.

Sniper
Sat, 23rd Jul '05, 4:29pm
20 for me :) Youthful rebellion? Sometimes I feel like a venerable sage

Deathmage
Wed, 27th Jul '05, 10:21am
16 here, seems like I'm a minority.

Jazhara7
Wed, 27th Jul '05, 1:25pm
18, verging on 5, verging on 97.

Harbourboy
Wed, 27th Jul '05, 9:40pm
84 votes, just under 1% of registered users.

Looks like the Youthful Rebellion rule the roost with a whopping 45%, but grey power is definitely a force to be reckoned with, with 8 mighty veterans over the age of 39.

Nakia
Wed, 3rd Aug '05, 10:04pm
I rather suspect that some of our more youthful posters have not voted. :wave:

Djieff
Mon, 8th Aug '05, 10:40pm
I'll be 28 in two weeks, and I'm still making good use of my Finger of Debt spell... ;)

Sydax
Tue, 9th Aug '05, 11:16pm
34 here, but I'm wondering how my life should be if I had cellphone, computer, radio controled little cars, lots of medicines, diet food, etc., etc., ...

Lynadin
Wed, 10th Aug '05, 7:35am
Well - I'm still wondering what happened to my 20s :confused:

Klorox
Wed, 10th Aug '05, 11:06pm
Mighty debt builder here, and I'll be wondering where my 20's went very soon. :eek:

Harbourboy
Wed, 10th Aug '05, 11:34pm
92 votes now. How small the active population of SP really is.

Klorox
Thu, 11th Aug '05, 12:39am
I don't think too many people really check this forum out, HB. In all honesty, I only started a few weeks ago.

Harbourboy
Thu, 11th Aug '05, 12:57am
If they don't check Sorcerous Sundries then they are not complete SPers! :p

Elwithral Irenicus
Mon, 29th Aug '05, 5:03am
Well, I'm 13 going on 14 in October.

I only heard about this forum from my good buddy Nakia.

My friend Dalamar Maximus is 14 and my cousins, Nicolas Hydre and Kelvin Dalf (whom I all introduced to SP) are 16.

Klorox
Tue, 30th Aug '05, 5:15am
LOL, good point HB! :)

DarkStrider
Wed, 31st Aug '05, 5:49pm
46 and apparently an aging geezer LOL, if I wasn't in this sink of depravity and debauchery then I would be there with my walking stick tiliting it at windmills. Sorry have to go the pub's open, lager's waiting and the clubs start opening tonight my feet need movement...

T2Bruno
Wed, 31st Aug '05, 10:53pm
Older than most. Younger than some.

I've got two kids, an ex and look forward to not paying child support at the end of this school year. Although, I'll be needing to pay for day care at about the same time (no rest for the wicked). I played 1st generation AD&D and even have an original "Gods, Demigods, and Heroes."

DreamingxAshley
Tue, 6th Sep '05, 12:23am
Im 30 and I dont feel like it, so should I have voted how old I feel? lol. If thats the case it should have been the "mighty debt builder" category. hehe.

DarkStrider
Tue, 6th Sep '05, 12:24pm
@T2Bruno yes I had that as well

But better than that my younger sister (when I was 15) bought me original D&D scenarios by the man himself Gary Gygax, and look where it's led me.....

And for the youngsters here are the simple rules of life
1. Don't worry; be happy
2. If you're not enjoying it; change it
3. When I'm good I'm good; but when I'm bad I'm so much better
4 Observe rules 1 through 3

Woodwyrm
Tue, 6th Sep '05, 10:42pm
Am i Ancient?

DarkStrider
Wed, 7th Sep '05, 10:48am
I don't know how do you feel and did you follow Burns first law (george not montgomery c) ?