If yes, how many a day?

Shabba

Yes, I don't know how many a day, I know a pack can last 4-5 days for me.

Used to. I quit just over six years ago, after smoking for 16 or 17 years. Before then, I smoked about 15 cigarettes a day.

Never have, never will. I'd rather not shorten my life span.

Same as TrueBlueAussie, never have done and I've no intention of starting.

10 to 20 a day. More if I'm bored.

I'm with TBA and Decados

I would never. My uncle died of lung cancer. It was slow and painful. That is why I constantly remind my friends constantly not to smoke or at the very least, smoke less.

Nope. Not after my dad got his disease from smokeing...

I can't remember what its called, but basically his body is fighting against all the nicotine in his body, which in his case seems to be his legs, and scar tissue is building up, which is making his veins in his legs smaller: he can't really exert himself too much or his legs start to go numb and hurt really bad.

so yeah, no smoking for me

Did as a Uni student - roll ups, probably a packet of the smaller size Golden Virginia a week.

Pretty much quit when I met the girlfriend just over 9 years ago - and will be forever glad for doing so.
Still used to have a very occaional cigar but have dropped that as well now.

Never. I watched my grandfather waste away from lung cancer.

My daughter started smoking and I won't let her smoke in my home or even on the property -- she has to take a walk if she wants to smoke.

Never, never will. My grandfather was a tobacco farmer. Back in the 60's, when I was a teenager, ( :geezer: here, remember) he asked me if I had started smoking yet. I told him I hadn't. I was stunned when he said, "Then, honey, please don't ever start."

He made every cent he ever earned on tobacco but by then he was terrified of its effects. He died of a heart attack within ten years of that conversation.

I've watched people die from lung cancer and emphysema and other diseases brought on or aggravated by smoking. Stay away from it, boys and girls. That stuff really will kill you.

The only time I'll smoke is when I'm camping and we're sitting around the campfire drinking beer. Otherwise, no.

I don't smoke, never have. I'm happy I never started. I don't mind other people smoking in my presence, as long as they don't blow the smoke in my face. In fact, the scent of cigarettes and coffee invokes fond memories of hospitality and guests.

I hate the stench of cold cigarettes in an ashtray and cold cigarette smoke.

The exception: I only smoke in company, and very rarely. I like to smoke a nargile occasionally, that is, three or so times a year. And have an occasional cigarette or the like on a party when feel like it, maybe twice that. Cigars maybe two times a year. That IMO doesn't count as habitual smoking.

Used to when I was around 15-16 but have quited and started a few times since then. But since I was 14 I have used moist snuff (called snus here in Sweden). I use about 200g/week.

No. Seems like half my family has died from emphysema or cancer or currently is dying from one of those two. Besides smoking is wildly unattractive.

No. Have never tried a cigarette and never will.

I smoke but not heavily. I'd say I have about 5 or 6 a day. I have one in the morning after my cup of tea (no breakfast, a cuppa and a fag will do me). Then I have one on my break and dinner at work, to de-stress myself (it chills you out and makes you more alert at the same time). I never smoke at home, because I don't want a stinky house, and I rarely smoke when I go out. Beer is enough for me then. So it's about 5 or 6 a day! Sometimes more, sometimes less.

Everybody seems to think I'm a smoker, maybe because I'm shorter than most Finns.
But nope, I don't wanna waste my money on health problems.

...Well, other than alcohol caused that is :beer: .

Never have, never will, and I'm teaching both my sons the same thing. Arlyn is even more passionately anti-tobacco than I. I'm so proud!

I really think the Supreme Court blew it when they refused to regulate cigarettes as drug-delivery devices. If I had my way, tobacco would be available only by prescription, and then only to people who were enrolled in approved smoking-cessation programs. It is not an activity that should be allowed in public places where innocent, unsuspecting people are trying to breathe!

Well, that's what the ban is for ;)

Nope. I'm allergic to a chemical used in most cigarette production, which helped reinforce smoking as a bad thing.

I don't. It's a scary thing, really.

I've smoked a couple but never bought a pack and I haven't touched one in a couple of years. Not intending to, either.

Started as a teenager, quit as a teenager. I was both dumb and smart as a teenager.

Only the occational cigar on special occations, so only a few on a yearly basis, but I otherwise I don't really smoke. Everyone else in the family smokes so I'm an exception in that regard and quite happy about it too.

[ May 18, 2007, 20:53: Message edited by: Morgoroth ]

Same here, Morgoroth. Both my parents smoked, my mom still does. I did try a cigarette once at the age of ten, thought it tasted nasty. Then a few years later the allergy was discovered.

My dad was a chain smoker and it killed him...I don't touch the stuff, nor do I let any of my friends family members do it. Atleast, I try to get them off it if they 're doing it.

Never really saw the point of getting myself addicted to something. Well, other than gaming, that is. ;)

Tried it once, never liked it, never got into it.

In my youth, the 'anti-smoking' campaign was getting underway, and I became quite strident in trying to cajole my mother into quitting. She did, about a decade after I gave up pushing her. :p

Over time, though, as public opinion got quite unanimous and somewhat draconian against smokers, I've become more of a neutral in the issue - keep it out of other people's faces, but no reason why you can't destroy yourself slightly faster than mother nature is doing. (C'mon - city ordinance banning smoking in an OUTDOOR public place?!? Try banning combustion engine automobiles first! :lol: )

I stop-drop-and-roll at least once a day so I don't smoke.

Or did you mean tobacco products?

I had a 2 pack a day habit. Moving to the second highest taxes on cigarettes province sort of cured me - $80 for a carton of El Cheapos. If I get offered one, I take it. I prefer menthol.

Nobody has mentioned one of my main reasons for not smoking: it's so bloody expensive! I would never be able to afford it!

Used to smoke both tobacco and MJ, stopped both. I've lost track of how long it has been.

Funny now that people mention it ... neither my parents nor my brothers and sisters smoke. I guess that makes it easier to not smoke.

Smoked MJ for the first time yesterday...

Funny, I'm reading that topic and I realize I've just lighted a cigarette.

nope.

No, and even if for some reason I decided to, I inhale enough at the bus stop everyday to last a lifetime. Che. -_- I really hate the smell!

I've just quit. There, now I've said it. I quit.

I only smoked regularly for about a year and I already started to have blood circulation problems, namely numbness in my fingers and reduced resistance for colder weather and occasional pains in my lungs. One time I woke up lying on my back, finding that I wasn't breathing. I've never snored or had sleep apnea before I started smoking.

The expensiveness. Yuh. Never mind the health, but money's something that I'm really short of. Now I can think a lot of other things I can do with 60 euros a month.

Never smoked at all, not even a drag. My parents both smoke quite heavily and I hate being close to them when they are smoking so I doubt very much I would enjoy smoking. I cant see the attraction to be honest.

Funny, I'm reading that topic and I realize I've just lighted a cigarette.Share please? :bigeyes:

/Me gives Kuemp a smoke

There ya go.

I smoke a pack a day, sometimes more, depending on what i'm doing. When i'm watching football, i usually light one after another, but the same applies for cans or bottles of beer. A football worldcup tournament which lasts for 4 weeks is extremely bad for my health i guess. :shake:

I started smoking at the age of 12, and never quit since. Don't really feel the need to either, exept that if i finally should decide to quit, i'd save me a hell of a sum of cash at the end of a year, do the math.

I suppose I should add both my parents were heavy smokers and for years I worked in an office with all others being heavy smokers, so I have inhaled a lot of second-hand smoke in my life. I have therefore been an involuntary smoker at times.

My mother died of lung cancer when I was 22. She never got to meet my wife or my son. Needless to say I am very anti-smoking.

I started out ocasionally, and now I'm a semi-frequent. I buy a pack every week (or every 10 days). Since I don't smoke inside the house, I'm able to keep myself from having more than 3 or 4 on a regular day.

While typing this, I haven't smoked for almost 2 days. I'd be lying if I told you people I don't feel like going out and buying a pack.

Adding to the topic - if you do smoke, which brand of cigarettes is your choice? Marlboro (blue or silver) does it for me. Regular ones (the red pack), as well as Camel, will make me feel dizzy.

Jau, although not too much. Actually, only during parties or when sitting at the comp. Like now. It's just ever so pleasant.

One pack while partying, otherwise around 10 a day.

I started at 25 or so, when I quit smoking weed. :sosad: :rolleyes: Bah!
Seeing how incredulously expensive it has become - and how everyone is going mental about smoking (can we say witch hunt?) - I might want to turn that around again. :grin: :shake:

Meh.

I hate smoking. Tried it when I was around 14 or so, most people do at that age, but it was only because everyone else did.
My mum just gave up smoking after 33 years :grin: Go Mum! :thumb:

Your draconic host thanks you for not smoking. :evil:

We've all got one nasty habit or another, but most smokers put their addiction before the well-being of others by forcing them to choke on their smoke, which I have a major problem with. One of the few good things about our current government is introducing a ban on smoking in all public places. Unfortunately, they'll still allow smoking in special sealed chambers, which I have my doubts about, and there's also talks of bar owners and such being able to choose whether they'll allow smoking or not. Naturally, most of them are convinced that they'll go bankrupt if they can't keep their smoking clientèle and would rather continue allowing smoking, which negates the whole point of the ban, so I dearly hope that choosing won't be allowed. I guess thinking ahead a bit that by banning smoking they'll gain plenty of patrons who have purposefully stayed out of the stink dens before would be too much of a mental exercise...

Adding to the topic - if you do smoke, which brand of cigarettes is your choice? Marlboro (blue or silver) does it for me. Regular ones (the red pack), as well as Camel, will make me feel dizzy. Mainly only Lamberts and Bensons, whichever is cheapest (if I'm buying), but if I get offered a fag I don't really care what brand it is!

Adding to the topic - if you do smoke, which brand of cigarettes is your choice? Anything menthol. If I'm begging for a smoke, I take what's offered.

I like Macdonald (Quebec brand) and Gauloise (french brand), Peter Jackson (US, I think) isn't bad either.

We've all got one nasty habit or another, but most smokers put their addiction before the well-being of others by forcing them to choke on their smoke, which I have a major problem with. One of the few good things about our current government is introducing a ban on smoking in all public places. Unfortunately, they'll still allow smoking in special sealed chambers, which I have my doubts about, and there's also talks of bar owners and such being able to choose whether they'll allow smoking or not. Naturally, most of them are convinced that they'll go bankrupt if they can't keep their smoking clientèle and would rather continue allowing smoking, which negates the whole point of the ban, so I dearly hope that choosing won't be allowed. I guess thinking ahead a bit that by banning smoking they'll gain plenty of patrons who have purposefully stayed out of the stink dens before would be too much of a mental exercise... In my province, last year a law was passed to ban smoking in all public places, including restaurant and bars. Guess what? No bar that I regulary attented before the ban went in bankrupsy after it.

Do I smoke? Nope. But I do watch the movie "Up in Smoke" with Cheech and Chong, whenever it comes on TV - Very funny stuff. Sorry, the title of this thread made me think of it....

Ehehehe, that was a good movie, though I got to admit it's wayyy better when you're stoned yourself :hippy:

I guess thinking ahead a bit that by banning smoking they'll gain plenty of patrons who have purposefully stayed out of the stink dens before would be too much of a mental exercise... Indeed. There's a restaurant called J.T. Whitneys near me that I never went to because of the constant haze. But now that Madison (but not the suburbs) has a smoking ban, I can enjoy that burger they make that they positively smother in cheese. :yum: :yum:

Started smoking on my 14th birthday, quit on my 44th after a doctor told me I could smoke or keep breathing. After figuring for a minute I caught on and quit. The dead don't smoke anyway. A carton (not a pack) of Chesterfields lasted between two and three days as of the time I quit.

Anyone who dosen't smoke who starts is out of their minds.

I smoked Chesterfields 'till november 2006.
Never smoked since then. I's quite a relief not to have to buy a pack of sigarets, again.

I used to smoke home-rolled mentholated cigarettes. I quit due to a bout of bronchitis (which kills both the ability to smoke and the craving, just trust me on that ;) ) and my docter (pointedly) telling me that I could avoid that in the future if I quit.

Yes but mostly just out of habit, first cig in the morning, after every meal and in between when feeling like it and one before going to sleep.

Slowing down the usage so it should be easier to quit someday. Usually a pack lasts for 2-3 days unless I'm drinking. Red Malboro is the way to go. :D

Do you smoke?

Nope, and never wanted to.

I have only smoked a single cigarette in my entire life. Besides being nasty as all hell, it caused one of the worst asthma attacks I've ever had. :eek:

Asthmatics who smoke are just asking for trouble. :nono: :rolling:

Its nice to see that so many of the board members don't smoke or have already quit smoking.

No, never. Even though I'm still underage, it's quite easy to get hold of cigs around here. but I'm not intending to start.

Sorry, but I've found that most fanatic 'anti-smokers' are utter hypocrites that create all manner of air pollution in other means - gas-guzzling vehicles, extravagant waste of electricity (which is all too often generated by burning oil or coal) with air-conditioning, scores of lights on during the day, TVs, radios and computers on when not in use, etc.

No different than an anti-fur protester that had a nice hearty omelet and coffee with plenty of cream for breakfast before pulling on those Doc Martens and hiking on down to the protest march...

Yes, sticking a burning wad of shredded tobacco in your mouth and sucking on the smoke is bad for you, just as ingesting the juice of rotting fruit and taking a poison into your body that will act as a depressant, as well as a behavior modifier that will permit you to do things your better judgement would normally prevent. :rolleyes:

How many automobile deaths are listed with smoking as the primary cause?

How many domestic disturbances have police had to investigate where one person was on 'cigarette buzz'?

Yes, smoking (and I'm throwing MJ in there; you're still doing the same general action, so don't think you're off the hook :) ) is, when looked at rationally, a very stupid thing to do, but so is EVERY vice.

And before you have to bring up the tired old 'second hand smoke' issue, a) your lungs are already filled with more smog than you'll experience unless the 'offender' happens to be looming over your shoulder in an elevator, b) so many places are already 'smoke free' (really cigarette free since they don't make you go through an airlock at the front door to get rid of those diesel fumes from the bus that passed you on the street outside) that basically the anti-smoker has to go LOOKING for the poor cigarette addict to be 'assaulted' with their nasty, vile, evil habit.

In short, I'm on the side of the smokers (even though I don't) because I'm seeing some quite clear PERSECUTION going on here - society always has to have a group that it can hound and stone without any feeling of guilt, and throwing a group of addicts (yeah, they're *hooked* and have a lot of difficulty stopping, remember?) into that role seems more distasteful to me than smelling the results of burning a dried plant.

Don't get me wrong; congrats to all those who have never gotten hooked, or did manage to throw off the addiction, and I'll provide all manner of support to any smoker that wants to stop, but I'm not going to disavow someone simply because they have one habit that society feels comfortable in vilifying.

Just remember to 'hate the sin but love the sinner' if you don't want me coming down on you like a ton of...tobacco leaves. :p

Anyone who dosen't smoke who starts is out of their minds.Yup; usually they are; usually by stress that they fall to grasping at a known legal relaxant. Or similarly the first time they get drunk... :(


But on a lighter note,

I smoked Chesterfields 'till november 2006.:eek: Ouch; how did you hold them up to your mouth? Or carry a package of them around with you without a forklift? ;)

(Yes, I know, but these sorts of jokes always pop into my head whenever someone mentions the brand :) )

Seriously, MoN/Old One, glad you stopped (don't think of it as 'quitting' since there's such subconscious negative connotations with that word) and think of all the money you'll save (in laundry as well as just the cigs themselves :D )

[ May 21, 2007, 22:29: Message edited by: jaded empath ]

JE while going down your rant why didn't you bring up the issue of health care? Smoking related illness cost the US over $100 billion dollars per year. Yeah, that was billion -- $100,000,000,000.00 per year. Approximately $20 billion in medicare and medicaid. Do you realize that everyone, even non-smokers, are paying that price?

I'm not at all concerned about the pollution caused by smokers -- that's small potatos in the scheme of pollution. I am concerned about the costs of the health care. Give me a checkbox on my tax form asking if I want to pay $1000 to keep a smoker alive -- as far as I'm concerned it was their choice to start and they should pay for it (or die without the care). Persecution? Fine. If someone makes a choice to be stupid, let them pay for it.

Let's talk about littering and wildfires. Every DAY I see some pinhead throw a LIT cigarette out his or her car. Every day. How many wildfires do you hear about being started by a lit cigarette? I hear about them every year -- thousands of acres of State and National parks destroyed by cigarettes every year.

As far as smoking as primary cause of death, it's call being a distracted driver. From the numbers I've found approximately 0.25% of all automotive crashes are caused by smoking. While that is nowhere near the whopping 20% caused by alcohol it is still quite significant (approximately 2,500 accidents per year). And yes, there are fatalities listed for this category.

Domestic disturbance? How about FIRE? Nearly 1,000 people die every year in residential fires caused by smoking. Police show up to those, as does the fire department -- which everyone pays for (not just the smokers).

Yeah, I'm biased against smoking and smokers. But there are a lot of very valid reasons. There appears to be some culture around smoking that makes people careless about the whole thing -- it's as if they put the cigarette in and turn off their brain. Change that culture (and make the cigarette companies fund medicare) and people may not be so biased.

Lol @ JE. :lol:
Imagine the troubles I had with getting the package out of the automatic.

If anyone wants to smoke, than that's oke with me. Just don't expect my sympathy for any of them charging Philip Morris for millions because thet didn't know it would be bad for your health. And I'd rather give my lungs to someone who treats them respectfully.
If my neighbour's house goes up in flames and mine along with it, because of a sigaret, I don't blame him for smoking. I blame him for his lack of attention.

I've opened a thread in AODA for the discussion of whether government should regulate and/or ban smoking.

i smoke around 10-20 a day.

around 50 if i'm clubbing

oh, I'm just shaking in my shoes, j_e's gonna yell at me! :rolleyes:

Your rant was ridiculous. You've completely lost the scope of the argument by nit-picking the details. The issue here isn't whether or not any individual makes more pollution or litter than any other person (even though smoking is a source of both and the non-smoker automatically has an edge, however small it may be), it's the fact that the non-smoking majority is forced to endure the detritus and fallout of the filthy habit of a small minority. You're right, in a way - the world is already so dirty that the contribution of any one smoker is negligible. But my point is this - it's also VOLUNTARY. We are forced to accept enough unavoidable sources of pollution that we shouldn't have to worry about those that CAN be stopped, and that are not balanced out by an overarching societal benefit. Smoke comes out of a factory as a side-effect of producing an element of commerce. Smoke comes out of a cigarette as a side effect of self indulgence.

If someone wants to smoke, fine - just keep it out of the public space entirely, and don't expect ANY public money as assistance when it's finally time to pay the price of your own stupidity.

[ May 22, 2007, 11:04: Message edited by: Rallymama ]

If someone wants to smoke, fine - just keep it out of the public space entirely, and don't expect ANY public money as assistance when it's finally time to pay the price of your own stupidity.
Hear here! :thumb:

I personally don't enjoy getting an asthma attack when I have to walk through a cloud of smoke just to get in to a building...and one can only hold his breath for so long. :bad: :rolling:

You know, you non smokers can always go around us smokers. There are other ways to get somewhere other than plowing through our haze.

@kuemp: Why should we? Why should we have to be inconvenienced to accomodate your selfishness?

I smoked for half of my life: I started when I was 13 and then quit at 26. It took me a long, long time to quit, and much personal reflection. Nicotine is a blight upon humanity. I think it is hard for a non-smoker to imagine the degree to which the perception of a smoker is warped. Addictive drugs have the ability to prevent a very unhappy person from 'knowing' that they are unhappy. It is truly awful to behold, and very confusing and demeaning to experience first-hand.

I think the 'curing' of the capacity for human beings to behave addictively is going to be the next medical breakthrough that will rival antibiotics in its complete alteration of the average life; significantly increased well-being for the average person will result. I'm not saying it is going to happen anytime soon...but still, I can dream.

[ May 23, 2007, 06:04: Message edited by: Late-Night Thinker ]

@ Kuemper: Well, there are plenty of times that the smoke is unavoidable. It doesn't help that smoke is gaseous so its gonna diffuse into a large area.

Old joke --

First guy: You mind if I smoke?
Second guy: I don't care if you burn.

kuemper: Actually, now that second hand smoke has been linked to cancer it really seems more a responsibility of smokers to ensure others are not affected. To do anything less is simply callous and irresponsible. Plowing through the haze is often the only way into a building -- which is why many communities are adopting no smoking zones around entrances.

Funny. My charming species always struck me as a particularly self-destructive, irresponsible, callous one.

What has changed to make these characteristics appear reprehensible in smokers all of a sudden? :D

I smoked a pack a day of Marlboro reds for a good long time. I've now moved down to Marlboro Lights, and have cut my cigarette consumption to about 8 per day. The baby is due in August - I have three more months.

You can do it, Aldeth.

You can still smoke and have children, course you can. Just go outside for 5 minutes to have a crafty drag, that's all.

A friend of mine did that after their third child was born - the boy had asthma. My friend later quit, after getting Diabetes type 2 (diabetes + smoking = very bad mix!).

Oh right! Smoking gave the child asthma of course!

What a stupid thing to say pal.

No, the child had asthma from birth, but the father's smoking made the condition worse. So he started smoking outside. I don't believe I linked the father's smoking to the son's asthma as cause and effect.

That's how it seemed from the wording.

Anyone who smokes around a child wants a good talking to. It's a matter of respect, if nothing else. If you want to smoke, go outside. I do that anyway. I never smoke in the house. A house stinking of fag smoke is... common. Not nice.

My youngest was three, as I recall, when I took up that habit for my last, and longest, period. One day when with new taxes added in, and a weekend's worth of smokes would cost $10 -- I think that's how it added up -- there were stop smoking patches on sale for a dollar more for five.

I bought patches, not cigarets that day, ending a 30 year habit that had been hovering at two packs a day for a couple of years. It was literally three years before occasional urges to grab at a shirt pocket for the pack would end.

It was only two years before my weight suddenly jumped from 175 to 205, and ended up stuck at 185 .. I wonder if that means I'd have weighed this much back before I was 55 or so and entered the semi- sedentary lifestyle? Ah, well, I wake up each day without that really bad taste in my mouth, and that's worth a very great deal.

You can still smoke and have children I disagree. You know how expensive it is to run and maintain a child? You'd have to feed your kid straw and re-use each nappy 7 times to be able to afford to buy cigarettes as well.

You'd have to feed your kid straw and re-use each nappy 7 times to be able to afford to buy cigarettes as well.
You skipped right past what I wrote without reading it. I did, indeed, combine raising a family, sending kids to private schools, Little League, Pop Warner football, etc. with the smelly habit of smoking cigarets, on an Insurance Underwriter's moderate salary.

Maybe the cigarets are why our vacations were never on Cruise Ships, or at any resorts on the Riviera, the luxury stuff like that . . however, I do seem to recall that the oldest two children missed out on the disposable diapers. I washed cloth diapers every day. The throw-out kind either hadn't existed yet, or started out at a much higher cost than they were when the youngest of the three was born.

When I quit, I was at a checkout register with five packs at almost $2 USD each at the time, about as many as I sometimes smoked on a weekend, and within a week, a new tax cost added was going to make that a $12.50 purchase. A nearby display of stop- smoking patches had five of those marked down to $12, I think. I chose the patches instead.

[ May 26, 2007, 00:10: Message edited by: Kiwi ]

You may have managed it, but I can't possibly see how the numbers could stack up, unless you are some sort of zillionaire. Cigarettes are expensive!!

I actually used to smoke back when I was in junior high, but I quit during my freshman year of high school and never went back (thank god). I'm currently 33 years old, so that was a while ago.

That said, I DO still partake in the occasional CIGAR, maybe 6 - 10 in a year, usually for special occasions. I don't inhale those suckers though; it's more about the smooth flavor (I only smoke quality cigars), and there's just something relaxing about a quality stogey, coupled with, say, a glass of brandy.

When my son is born in July, you better believe that I'll be enjoying one of the finest cigars I can get my hands on! :)

You may have managed it, but I can't possibly see how the numbers could stack up, unless you are some sort of zillionaire. Cigarettes are expensive!! That's because of the "sin taxes" the government has slapped on tobacco in later years. They used to be more affordable. :p

@Marceror: I couldn't smoke today - cigar or cigarette or whatever, or I would be hooked again.

I haven't paid any attention to the cost in several years, but it hasn't yet been a full decade since I quit that final time. (I'd quit first when I had young children at home, then started again when the boys were older, and my little girl mostly just lived with her mother - that divorce may have figured in the return to the habit.)

Yes, unfortunately. You may remember I tried to give up earlier this year, but after about 6 weeks the temptation got me at the wrong time (namely when I was drunk)

Usually about 20 a day, I'm quite a heavy smoker. More often if I'm particularly bored, stressed or depressed. I do intend to give up completely, I just have to find the right time.