View Full Version : POLL: If you have the game, do you recommend others buy it?
Fri, 10th Oct '03, 5:22pm
I'm sure that many people who haven't yet bought the game are wondering whether or not they should, given the very mixed reviews it's been getting and the issues that have been raised here. So, if you have played this game already, please vote here.
I have set the poll up so that you CAN see the results without voting. So if you haven't played the game, don't vote - just look at the results.
This poll contains 1 question(s). 23 user(s) have voted.
Poll Results: If you have the game, do you recommend others buy it? (23 votes.)
If you have the game, do you recommend others buy it? (Choose 1)
* NO. I wish I hadn't bought it. Save your money. - 4% (1)
* YES. I'm glad I bought it. - 35% (8)
* NOT AS IT IS NOW. Wait and see how much the patch fixes. - 61% (14)
Fri, 10th Oct '03, 5:56pm
I wish you had a 4th option: Wait until the patches fix most of the problems AND it significantly drops in price. It'll hold steady at $50 for a few months at least.
VERY disappointing, and I'll never buy a Troika game again, if for no other reason than they can't seem to get a release right.
Fri, 10th Oct '03, 6:04pm
Sorry about the omission, Death Rabbit. Let's assume a price drop is included in the third option, since the price is almost certain to have gone down by then anyway. :)
Fri, 10th Oct '03, 9:27pm
Only after it gets fixed. This game is unplayable in its current form.
Fri, 10th Oct '03, 9:53pm
The un-official patch put out by our friends at Circle of Eight, makes the game playable but not perfect. If the official patch or patches deal with some of the bigger problems, we'll have one hell of a game. The visuals are great and the combat system is all i hoped it would be.
I personally doubt that Troika wanted the game released in it's current state. However, when your source of funding (Atari) says "we release game now", I guess you don't have a choice but to comply.
Wait for the first official patch, if the S.P. dwellers give approval, go buy the game and have fun. :thumb:
Sat, 11th Oct '03, 2:45am
I would hardly call it "unplayable" for all modes of play.
Sat, 11th Oct '03, 7:13am
Okay, okay...It's unplayable in Ironman. If you can reload/reset your game, it's probably playable...But I do really think many of the features of the game do not work as they should.
Sat, 11th Oct '03, 8:45am
I like it, hasn't really encountered any bugs yet but I'm not that far in either.
From what I've heard, it's all Atari's fault. They just seem to be money hungry. Also, it could be neat if Troika released the game THEY got.
I got really mad when I heard that they had to change from mature to teen, come on it really adds something with maturity. They probably just wanted more money but I bet teenagers will still buy it even if it was mature.
Sat, 11th Oct '03, 11:07am
I don't think its unplayable in ironman. That's the only way I've tried to play it. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I haven't encountered any game ending bugs or other issues that a patch would address relating to ironman specifically.
Though it would be nice if the game menu buttons were labelled correctly. :eek:
Oh, and trillex, the issue isn't who would *buy* it, its who would *sell* it. Walmart and similar retailers tend not to carry 'mature' games (though there are exceptions) and that affects publishers' decisions about things.
Sat, 11th Oct '03, 3:26pm
Buy it! Absolutely!
But wait until the patch is released, because now it is very annoying to see a potentially very good game being "bugged"
Sun, 12th Oct '03, 12:05am
Then make a censored version for the US and an uncensored for denmark and other countries that really doesn't care about that. :p
Sun, 12th Oct '03, 3:22pm
It is amazing how repressed and censored we are in the "Land of the Free", isn't it?
Sun, 12th Oct '03, 7:24pm
You aren't censored at all. Atari chose to make a product a certain way because they believe doing it otherwise negatively impact their sales. No agent of authority forbid them from putting the "convince the lesbian to turn tricks for women" quest in the release version.
Troika was paid by Atari to make the game. Atari wanted the game to have a "teen" rating, despite what Troika was planning. Its Atari's money, not Troika's.
That isn't censorship, at least not in any morally objectionable sense. The owners of the game could have produces a "mature" content game if they had wanted to.
Sun, 12th Oct '03, 11:09pm
But why the hell did they decide to go from M to T at the last minute and so invalidate a number of quests/locations in the game? I consider not planning something like this in advance to be due to somebody's incompetence. Which is not really surprising, since in most of my dealings with Atari I had to deal with unbelievably arrogant and amazingly incompetent people... It's the worst combination out there.
Mon, 13th Oct '03, 12:23am
I just bought it today, and am in the middle of installing and looking up cheats.
Sounds like a haystack. Yeah, the whole sexuality and violence thing in the US is exactly the opposite of Europe.
Anyone else remember ET for the Atari 2600? :)
Mon, 13th Oct '03, 12:32am
Anyone else remember ET for the Atari 2600? Yes, that was one of the great moments of gaming history, wasn't it? :D :rolleyes:
Personally I was looking forward to ToEE, but then I started reading the reviews and the comments in this forum. Now I've decided to wait for the patch (at least) and possibly also until the prize drops.
Sat, 18th Oct '03, 4:22pm
The in-game mapping is really the pits. Even with the added crank-up of my GeForce 3's control panel Gamma Level, you can't see anything, and can't move around. I especially miss not being able to move the camera angle.
Co8's FanFix 1.0.0 patch has held most of the bugs back for my own playing, but now they elected to use "RAR" to pack the second patch version. Booo! Hiss!
My party is stumbling around inside the moat house like all of them are as drunk as Elmo! I think I'll do something else, and wait until decent maps exist. The maps in the Brady guide to the game, certainly those offered for the moat house dungeon, are literally worthless!
Sat, 18th Oct '03, 7:08pm
following the original post, is this game more in the style of IWD (linear story,battle-rest-battle) or BG ?
Thu, 23rd Oct '03, 11:42am
I feel much obliged to encourage any RPG game out there. TOEE can be bloody odd at times, the whole disaster with NPC looting, little bugs that turn NPCs hostile randomly, random HP gains upon leveling, and the massive slowdowns I get on my comp..
I think this game could be really great with a modding fanbase and copious amounts of patching. Until then it's a lukewarm recommendation. Buy and expect frustration before a major patch comes out.
Thu, 23rd Oct '03, 9:42pm
the only problem i encounter in toee is the scrolling problem because im a icewind dale player before... i play the game as fast as possible..but the scrolling into town(any place) is hard..
and maybe the requirements also..but its the players own problem.
and for the topic.. i think for every d&d rpg fan toee is recommended.(especially pen and paper freaks). not recommended in newbies in d&d..this game is very complicated for newbies.. i rate this game 7 out of 10.
Fri, 24th Oct '03, 6:10pm
When the patch is widely issued, the bug problems will be cured. While it is short, it is a beautiful game. Graphics are amazing.