View Full Version : American Road Rage
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 6:22am
You from presumably more civilized nations may not know that Road Rage is that group of behaviors resulting from frustration with another's driving: shooting, stabbing, battery, deliberately hitting the other vehicle with your own, screaming matches in the street, etc.
I have been shown a gun twice by those who didn't like my driving, and been screamed at countless times. I know that Los Angeles, where I live, is a car culture more than most other cities -- also I am, to be honest, a terrible driver. But I wonder how common it is for motorists in other cities to flip their cookies.
Have you ever experienced road rage? Is this an American thing?
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 6:31am
No. It's an anger management thing.
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 7:49am
Ok, first, I used to live in Buena Park, CA...now I live in crappy Salt Lake City, UT...anyways, you have it easy! People in CA drive SO much better than the stupid redneck hicks here. Just this morning a 70's ford pickup(with huge tires, 20" lift, and more rust than paint) cut me off, then hit his brakes so he could go 10 mph under the speed limit! So I pass him(leagaly) and the idiot folows me home. Then he says he should kick my a$$, among other things. So my dad, who was watching the whole thing walks up to him and shows him his concealed weapons permit, and tells him to get the hell off his property before he put his permit to good use! I never saw a hick drive off so fast. It was the funniest thing I have ever seen. Anyways, my point is Utah drivers are compleate idiots, who can't drive! :rolling:
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 10:04am
Ha! That was an entertaining story! You should have jotted down his license and slashed his tires for such insolence! I am rather curious, how did your dad ever get a permit for concealed weapons? Is it a State thing? And if someone reveals to an assailant that he is armed with a concealed weapon, does that not nullify the potential charges of having a concealed weapon? :mommy: What kind of weapon was it?
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 11:13am
Ah well, guns are so hard to get here that you don't really see much of them. Those who do have them have licences for them and don't go flashing them about just like that since they know their licences could be revoked easily. Almost no one but criminals carries knives either.
Anyway, Slovenes are pretty bad drivers. Well, I suppose bad isn't the right word, overconfident would be better. Sure, we get pissed off at Sunday drivers or anyone who's a bad driver in general, but it never goes beyond furious honking and hand gestures :heh:. Occasional fights do happen, but only when people actually get in car accidents and it's not immediately apparent who's the guilty one. ;)
But that's about it for violence. I haven't heard of it being any different in most of central Europe, so it could be a cultural thing I suppose.
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 11:47am
Sounds like a decent argument for safe, reliable mass transit to me. If memory serves, there isn't much in the way of that in L.A. Nor is there in Houston, where I grew up...they try to solve the problem by continuously adding new lanes. 12 at last count on 59 south.
Here in Paris I don't drive, so I can't really say. A car would be a consistent headache in this town...The trains are always there, you don't have to look for parking, if you need a ride late or a car for the weekend, there are always taxis and rentals. Expensive in the short term, sure, but substantially cheaper than maintaining a car. Not to mention the dearth of parking spaces.
All the advice I can give to the original post is...get yourself a mobile phone and call in every license plate number where the driver brandishes a gun.
And whatever you do, don't provoke. I can't think of a more absurd way to die, really.
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 7:10pm
Wow! No one has ever waived a gun at me!!! But I would have to describe myself as an, um, "assertive" driver. :grin:
I hate it when a cluster of cars all drive the same speed and effectively block anyone from passing...I affectionately call these "idiot clusters." My biggest pet peeve of all is someone driving slow in the passing lane - I generally try to educate them as I pass them by passing into their lane rather close to their vehicle!!! They usually wise up after that and move into the non-passing lane.
My last pet peeve are peopoe that use their cell phones while driving - the majority of people on the road are incompetent in general - it becomes exponentially worse when they start yapping on their cell phone...Especially while driving slow in the passing lane!!!! That urks me!!! :evil:
Sun, 16th Jun '02, 8:42pm
I live in LA and drive the 405 freeway every weekday, and I have never seen a case of road rage let alone been caught up in one. But then again, I'm a good driver, though I don't pay much attention to the speed limit :)
Mon, 17th Jun '02, 12:27am
"and I have never seen a case of road rage let alone been caught up in one."
That's like someone who's been in the Navy for 12 years, and has never seen the boat.
Dude. TA. You *REALLY* need to sign up for the lottery...
Mon, 17th Jun '02, 6:01am
When I was in the UK I saw some pretty bad road rage. The british drivers are pretty bad, and they can be real *******s. Everywhere else in europe it seems fine though. I haven't had problems with US drivers, but then I avoid cities.
Mon, 17th Jun '02, 7:34pm
LOL, ejsmith -- Blackthorne truly must be surrounded by this moving oasis of sunshine and goodness -- not a bad place to be, especially in San Pedro. Protection from Antisocial Behavior, 10' radius.
After all, bad as I am (never aggressive, just inattentive, and in a huge monster-truck) I have *seen* many more instances of road rage than were directed at me.
I am amused by the comment about English drivers -- my friend, who recently returned from there, tells me, "The English I met in London were,
on average, far more rude and many Londoners struck me
as prone to senseless drunken violence for its own
Mon, 17th Jun '02, 8:13pm
Tehehe. Not that I haven't seen accidents and poor/crazy drivers, but I haven't seen people waving weapons or getting out of their cars yelling at eachother. But maybe I've just got blinders or rose-colored glasses on :)
BTW, if you're familiar with the area, I'm in the "good" part of San Pedro, up the hill. 100 feet more west and I'm across Western Blvd. and into Rancho Palos Verdes :)
[This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited June 17, 2002).]
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 7:29am
Actually, road rage isn't really all that common, but it is well publicized.
My job is to set up claims for an insurance company, so I've heard just about every type of car accident out there. I generally only get surprised about every 3-4 months or so.
Now, idiot behavior, that's another story. I hear that about 30 times a day at work.
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 1:48pm
I live in the good old uk
<--- see :p
And I'm telling you we have the worst drivers in the world.
They dont pull guns on you, they arnt really common over here we have tight regulations, but they will run you over without a second though.
During the day oyu get a million and one old grannies in really nice sports cars going exactly 3mph in 2 lanes and boy racers in the other.
At night, well step on the road and you wont step again, to be honest I think the police have given up in most areas, I only ever see speed camera's in 'Rich areas'.
To make things worse I dont even live in a huge city just a middle sized town :o
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 8:23pm
I live in New Jersey. We have road rage, with all the trimmings. Especially in the summer. Damn New York non-drivers. I too am an intolerant driver.
I still think it's more anger management than geographical, though.
I've seen pretty bad road rage on Guam.
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 8:36pm
I live in Canada. I may not drive, but I've been in the car enough times with my parents. My parents are definitely not violent, and neither are any other drivers I've seen on the roads. Oh sure, there are honkings, a bit of swearing(mostly my part), and when I see the occasional teenage jerk drivers I flash them my finger, but that's about it.
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 9:43pm
I'm just starting to drive and I live in northern Indiana(why does every one think theirs so much corn here?). I've been driving for about a 6 months now. Ya I tend to stick to teh speed limite. I have even backed up trafic behind me, re****ing in me hitting most every green light. But no one gets mad at me. I live in an area where it's hard to see whats around the next bend. At least once a month I see a major crash. No one gets mad. Some people envloved in the crash see if the other person is alright or start directing trafic. I'v seen it too.
Wed, 3rd Jul '02, 9:58pm
Here in Belgium, people don't start showing you guns if you're a bad driver, they just give you that very disaproving look.
Fri, 5th Jul '02, 8:19am
Methyl. Listen. If you have been shown a gun, <u>TWICE,</u> because of your driving, one of two things is happening. 1.The road ragers are completely out of line and should be admonished immidiately, or 2.Your driving skills are risking the lives of the people around you. Forcing someone to show a firearm because of your poor navigational skills should be a fairly straightforward sign that you need to take Drivers Ed.
Sat, 6th Jul '02, 2:48am
es-and-es: I know it. But alas the problem is not my driving theory -- which driver's ed could help -- but my driving practice. I can't do two things at once -- it's some kind of birth defect. I get to thinking hard about something and I forget I'm driving the car (till blaring horns shatter my reverie). I probably shouldn't drive, but I must, so I just try to keep it together and live to tell -- and I keep the radio off.
But I *never* honk at the other people! They merge right in front of my monster truck, they don't go when the light is green, they don't signal -- but life is short, and I wouldn't give them a hard time for an equivalent offence if we were *not in cars* so why pitch a fit? Right?
Sat, 6th Jul '02, 5:11am
unable to pay attention to your driving? That's dangerous, no ifs, ands or buts. If your condition is not treatable, you need to get off the road. You are potetially as dangerous as an alcohol impaired driver, or an epilleptic.
Sat, 6th Jul '02, 7:46am
Well, yes. It has been difficult.
It is but one symptom of EFCE syndrome, and no, effective treatment is not yet available. But with your prayers and support, perhaps I and the millions of other sufferers can look forward to a brighter tomorrow.
Thank you and God bless.
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Sat, 6th Jul '02, 8:33am
Hey Sir B-there's a name for when people drive the same speed and block the whole highway-its a "Utah (or Idaho) wall"!
Sat, 6th Jul '02, 12:14pm
No matter how bad you drive it is never an excuse for being showed a gun. It is a bizarre thing and I would go the police right away and do my best to put the person waving the gun into prison for a long time.
Sat, 6th Jul '02, 5:18pm
*snicker* Okay, Methyl, ya got me. Maybe I shouldn't post late at night. But then again, where I work, people have said crazy stuff like that and MEANT it. There are times when I wonder how half the US maintains their drivers' licenses.