View Full Version : WalMart vs. Pregnant Barbie


Laches
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 6:12pm
It promotes teenage pregnancy. What would an 8-year-old or 12-year-old get out of that doll baby?" asked Sabrina Fagan, 29, who has a 9-year-old son.
I can't believe some people think this way.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/12/25/offbeat.pregnant.doll.ap/index.html

Morgoth
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 6:22pm
If that barbie should be made illegal,
then GI Joe should be too since it promotes violence, the G.W Bush action figure should be too since it promotes stupidity.. :rolleyes:

I so disgust these people, violence on t.v., okay. soldiers fighting, okay. action movies with people dying, okay.. but one tit, third kneepit or a pregnant barbie and suddenly it´s like "Think of the children!!!"

What on earth to these parents want their children to believe, they grow out of vegetables, ostriches, angels appear with the baby?? "Here you go, thats $200, pay or we give your soul to Satan"

[ December 27, 2002, 19:23: Message edited by: Morgoth ]

Taluntain
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 7:35pm
And now for an article with a bit more common sense and a good ending comment: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20021227/od_nm/walmart_dc

Rastor
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 7:39pm
So what is a good age to introduce children to healthy family life?

And honestly, tell me any 9 year old that doesn't know about birth and I will personally call Ripley's.

It said that the doll has a wedding ring and is married. Seems to me that promotes healthy family life. What do the parents that support this want their children to believe?

scarampella
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 7:40pm
just goes to show how insane our country is..

women just can't win for losin', something wrong with a pregnant woman? My goodness, how ridiculous. Am I the only one who sees the anti-female BS?

[ December 27, 2002, 20:42: Message edited by: scarampella ]

Blackthorne TA
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 8:58pm
Ridiculous? Yes. Anti-female? I for one don't see it. The only ones I saw quoted in the CNN article as having a problem with it were two women with kids who thought it sent a teen-pregnancy message.

I think we should get rid of all baby dolls for sale. What kind of message are we sending to our kids? What if they like playing with the baby dolls? Won't that encourage them to go out and get pregnant? :rolleyes:

Dragon's Jewel
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 8:59pm
And if they're concerned that a barbie that's pregnant is going to promote teenage pregnancy, then what about the baby dolls that are already for sale? What about Barbie's little sister, who is, in fact, a baby? How do the parents explain to their little Suzies and Sallys where their baby doll(The wets and eats just like a reall baby!)comes from? Does that mean that we ought to ban pregnant women from going into Walmart? (Mommy, why is her tummy so big?)

Edit: I posted right at the same time as Blackthorne, who pretty much says the same thing I do. So I'm only partially a copy-cat.

[ December 27, 2002, 22:01: Message edited by: dragonjewel13 ]

scarampella
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 9:11pm
inre: anti female
basically what I see all to often is that women are unacceptable in whatever form they are in, pregnant, scantily dressed, single, working, divorced, married with kids...etc
These criticisms come from women as well as men, if not more often. I don't intend to pollute the topic with this, I just wanted to clarify what I had said a bit.

Barbie with the legs a mile long and the breast upright, so misformed she would not be capable of walking if she were real, *that* Barbie is 'ok' but pregnant Barbie is 'not' just blows my mind

Morgoth
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 9:25pm
"Wal-Mart pulling Barbie because she's pregnant, but they still sell guns and ammo?" said Laura Jamieson of San Francisco.
You can buy weapons in a supermarket...... WTF??

AMaster
Fri, 27th Dec '02, 9:27pm
Some parents may in fact be concerned that pregnant barbie will **** up their kids-but I believe that idiot reactions like this woman's are simply an attempt to gain money. It's lawsuit time!

[I just did some research on Wal-Mart, and it turns out that in the past:

A woman in Northern Florida found a shirt that so offensively declared that "Someday A Woman Will Be President" to be "anti-family values." The offended woman complained; Wal-Mart quickly pulled the shirt off their racks.


Fundamentalist Christians at AFA didn't like it how Wal-Mart had Cosmopolitan magazine displayed at the checkouts. AFA successfully pressured Wal-Mart into putting blinders over the sinfully obscene magazine. Blinders...for Cosmopolitan. This all because some dingbat mothers decided to drag their dingbat children to Wal-Mart with them and get themselves all "offended."


"Concerned" parents complained to Wal-Mart about music CDs they found "offensive." Nevermind the fact that videogames, music CDs, movies, etc. have ratings on them and generally cannot be listened to or played in the store; that wasn't good enough. Wal-Mart removed the "offensive" CDs immediately. So because some children might catch a glimpse of a naughty CD, no one, including adults whose only local retailer is Wal-Mart, can buy them.

So, it isn't money, it's "Christian" "family values." do you begin to understand why I despise fundies?]

[ December 28, 2002, 05:40: Message edited by: AMaster ]

Vermillion
Sat, 28th Dec '02, 11:51am
That is just funny to me. Maybe I really do have a strange sense of humour after all. But then I always get a chuckle off these strange things that happen. Yep you can buy a load of guns for 'home protection' but we ain't gonna sell you the pregnant barbie :p :lol:
It is quite disturbing at the same time. After all barbie through the years has tried to make real life situation dolls, like working babrbie in a pinstripe suit etc, so why does this cause such horror?
And yes, I was bored enough to watch programms about collectors peices etc when I was on night shifts and the history of barbie was covered in one of them. I am full of useless information trivia from my late night TV watching ;)

Morgoth
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 11:37am
Wath the *bleep* is wrong with those Christians, oh God a boob on a magazine in a supermarket, were all gonna burn in hell!!
(Is God gay or something, I heard nothing to be wrong with the buttnaked children flying around Jesus, angels and other holy people.... :aaa: :aaa: (better not say that, or I´m getting trouble))

Vermillion
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 12:17pm
LOL @ Morgoth ;)

But God can't be gay, he hates homosexuals remember? ;) . Besides, why worry about it, those people are hypocrytes anyway. Better just to sit back and laugh at them, trying to guess what they'll do next :lol: .

Master of Nuhn
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 2:08pm
I hope the two of you are talking about fundamentalists. I'm a Christian myself and I am rather opposed by the way you talk about God/Christians. Don't generalize. :mad:

Now back to the topic, please.

Mortensen
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 5:34pm
Hooray finally someone posted after Vermillion :grin:

I had a Barbie type doll when I was small. You could open it's belly up and take the baby out. Disturbing isn't it?

8people
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 6:05pm
Talking of Barbies: Over 40 Barbies (http://calskp.50megs.com/5-Barbie.html) :lol:

What is the actual point of a pregnant Barbie? Who would actually want it?

Morgoth
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 6:42pm
@MoN
Sorry, and yes we were aiming at fundamentalists

Children will eventualy learn were baby´s come from, and this way is more "childfriendlyer" than seeing it on Discovery or a pornchannel..

Master of Nuhn
Sun, 29th Dec '02, 7:33pm
Accepted ;)

I work in a toystore and we've sold these pregnant dolls. Girls just seem to like babies and thus pregnant moms and everything else that has to do with it. No problem with that.
If people think these dolls promote teen-pregnancy, they just shouldn't buy this doll.

easy as that piece of cake.

Vermillion
Mon, 30th Dec '02, 1:15am
MoN I was actuallt referering to the 'god hates fags' post in here from earlier with that fundamentalist in it. I do know that not all christians are like that, so please take no offense from it. Unless you're a fundamentalist in which case... ;)

AMaster
Mon, 30th Dec '02, 2:45am
let's not dignify them by calling them fundamentalists. Calling them fundies is much more fun :)

William Smit IV
Mon, 30th Dec '02, 3:26am
PREGNANT BARBIE?! What next--an HIV-infected Muppet--? Oh...wait...

Sprite
Mon, 30th Dec '02, 8:34pm
Am I the only one who finds it creepy that the baby is removed by pulling the doll's belly open? Commentators suggested that this doll is a great way to explain about pregnancy and childbirth, but last time I checked, Caesarians were not a normal way to give birth - and slitting a woman up the belly with an incision the size of a baby is not something I would want kids playing at. If they're not going to produce anatomically correct Barbies I think they're better off not trying to push the "facts of life lesson" rationale for selling this. It's kind of a disgusting toy, and I'd be no likelier to buy this for a kid than I would to buy the "normal" (hah!) Barbie dolls that look like they've had more plastic surgery than Cher. They should have stuck with pregnant Midge having a non-removable baby.

Mortensen
Mon, 30th Dec '02, 9:38pm
(edit) sorry, just realised that this messge is TOOOOOOOOO bad to be posted :toofar:

[ December 30, 2002, 22:42: Message edited by: Mortensen ]

Master of Nuhn
Mon, 30th Dec '02, 10:52pm
@Vermillion: Lol! ;)
(I was in a bad temper when I read these posts and then I take things to heart easily. It doesn't happen often, though ;) )

I don't think kids should get these toys for educational meanings. Just let them play with toys.
Seems all toys must have an educational element. Kids are almost manipulated by the toys they get, sometimes. They are crammed for business at the age of 5.
If they want a toy to learn kids about pregnancy, then let them make a doll with a tube-like belly, to squeeze the litle baby out and then cut the string. Put it in a mug of water, add some powder to let it grow and then transform it into a furby so it can learn to speak. %$#@ that!
Just give the kids a pregnant doll or a G.I.Joe and let them have fun. No educational nonsense.

Vermillion
Tue, 31st Dec '02, 6:30pm
You're right, Nuhn, it's almost like brainwashing kids, deciding what they can play with and what they can't. People are way too careful these days. Why not let them decide what they play with?

(Mortensen)

[ December 31, 2002, 19:32: Message edited by: Vermillion ]

Rastor
Wed, 1st Jan '03, 2:48am
Because those mothers that are "offended" by this will get offended that there exists a toy with no educational value.

Why not simply avoid the toy if you are offended by it, instead of enforcing your values upon another who does not share them? Sounds to me like another thing to put into my "Warnings for Morons" thread. WARNING: If you are easily offended and feel that everyone else is a clone of you, do not shop here.

ejsmith
Wed, 1st Jan '03, 7:00pm
I don't really have a problem with Knocked-Up Barbie.

I DO have a problem with Sex Kitten Barbie. Just like I have a problem with Pre-Teen lingerie, courtesy of Mary Kate and Ashley (or whatever their names are).

Children are sexual creatures, all across the animal kingdom. I'm not saying ours are any different.

I'm saying Monkeys, Dolphins, Dogs, Cats, and Elephants do NOT wear lingerie...


[edit: Sprite, this is why there needs to be parental interaction. The focus of Knocked-Up Barbie is the baby/fetus is inside the mother. The fact that the baby is inside her uterus is the point they are trying to make, not how the baby comes out of the woman's body.

If you want "Birth-Canal" Barbie, they'd have to use Thermal Laytex, just like what is used for constructing all those nifty sex toys.


Next Up: G-Spot Barbie.]

[ January 01, 2003, 20:04: Message edited by: ejsmith ]

Morgoth
Wed, 1st Jan '03, 11:33pm
@Sprite

Do you want it more realistic, okay maybe it should pee blood every month, saying "oh, no my water broke" everytime some kid pushed a button and squirt milk when you pull the baby through the uterus..

maybe they should include a Ken-doll with some manual short of pump or a sensor which triggers a automatic pump everytime he gets closer to a naked barbie and a instruction manual :rolleyes:

[ January 02, 2003, 00:35: Message edited by: Morgoth ]