Have you ever considered suicide?
You don't need to write anything about it, but I would appreciate if you did...
Any thoughts are welcome.

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Poll Results: Suicide thoughts (51 votes.)

Have you ever tried to commit suicide? (honest now) (Choose 1)
* Yes, once... - 12% (6)
* Yeah, several times, yet still I live. - 16% (8)
* No, but I have thought about it. - 41% (21)
* No way! - 31% (16)

How? (Choose 7)
* Slitting wrists. - 18% (9)
* Gun or other weapon. - 22% (11)
* Pills or booze...often combined. - 14% (7)
* Rope around neck. - 6% (3)
* Drowning. - 6% (3)
* Others. - 29% (15)
* None. - 49% (25)

I have thought, but no. I think it's for those, who can't face life and fight. Just like drugs and booze.

sure I have, though I figured it kinda scary. Why end life when I really want to live forever.

I started writing some poetry, and a year after I'm doing fine back on track :)

Sorry, to all you Suicidal Failures :evil: I thought about it many times but never went for it. If your gonna do it do it right!

I've thought about it, but it's just when I'm depressed or angry. Like the kind of feeling that you want to get out of the world because your girlfriend broken up with you, or because you failed a chemistry test. I can't honestly say I have really considered the issue seriously.

Normally, I'm too occupied, tired, or daydreaming away to worry about such stuff.

Never,
I believe that I don't have the right to do it as nobody has,only The One who gave your life to you has the right.
Life is not always as we expect.So will you suicide if something goes wrong,sometimes it seems that everything is wrong.You must face your problems.
Here are some lyrics:

Morning comes too early and nighttime falls too late
And sometimes all I want to do is wait
The shadow I've been hiding in has fled from me today

I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye
But I will raise a shelter to the sky
and here beneath this
star tonight I'll lie
She will slowly yield the light
As I awaken from the longest night

Dreams are shaking
Set sirens waking up tired eyes
With the light the memories all rush into his head

By a candle stands a mirror
Of his heart and soul she dances
She was dancing through the night above his bed

And walking to the window
he throws the shutters out
against the wall
And from an ivory tower hears her call
'Let light surround you'

It's been a long, long time
He's had awhile to think it over
In the end he only sees the change
Light to dark
Dark to light
Light to dark
Dark to light

Heaven must be more than this
When angels waken with a kiss
Sacred hearts won't take the pain
But mine will never be the same

He stands before the window
His shadow slowly fading from the wall
And from an ivory tower hears her call
'Let the light surround you'

Once lost but I was found
When I heard the stained glass shatter all around me
I sent the spirits tumbling down the hill
But I will hold this one on high above me still
She whispers words to clear my mind
I once could see but now at last I'm blind

I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye
But I had given all than I could take
And now I've only habits left to break
Tonight I'll still be lying here
Surrounded in all the light

Yikes! You people need to get a grip!

I just can't imagine how somebody who has the time/resources to while their time away here could have a life so bad that suicide was remotely thinkable.

Suicide because of a lost girlfriend or a failed test?! Like I said: Get a grip!

Once...

When I had depression.

I moved away to the midlands, away from all my friends and family, I thought I would never seen them again, I was only nine. I wouldn't actually have seen them if I'd stayed. I got a computer and it was put in the attic, I stayed up there all day and had my meals brought up, I began to eat just for the sake of it, I was beaten up at school and hated my step-dad, he used to hit my mother and he had a son who had a mental disorder and an evil dog. I got so fed up I contemplated suicide. I kept a knife up in the attic with me incase I ever decided or if he came near me. in the end I didn't have the guts and ended up falling out the window into the conservatory.

We moved back to the South where my friends and family are - my mother is divorced and we are better off and happier, I'm at last in a school where I am not bullied, I have lost weight that I gained and have kept myself from getting that low again. My computer died when we moved house though - crushed, I nearly dried, it had been my only friend for over three months, the only thing I could talk to and trust. I know it sounds sad, but still I prefer the company of a computer or a cat, I still am not all that trusting of dogs, though my best friend recently got a puppy and I have had to forget about my distrust and the holes in the tights (it's a nippy bugger ;) )

Recently I've been getting depressed again but I know I'll never get that low, I won't let any of me get me down. I have more problems than I did but I'm dealing with them. That's all you have to do - take things a day at a time.

BTW - are you trying to see the most popular way of commiting suicide :p

No, I am not.

Shielded

An icy shield surrounds my heart.
Stops feelings from leaking out.
Deep down inside I cry I am hurt.
I want to scream and shout.

Noone understands me right.
The pain I'm going through.
They pat my head and holds me tight.
But they don't have a clue.

Why don't they just leave me alone?
I don't need nobody now.
My mind is broke, my heart of stone.
How could this happen, how?

Grey Feelings

Thoughts of suicide running through my head.
Would someone miss me if I were dead?
I am tired of this ****, tired of this life!
Will it be the window or the knife?

I am making no differens, so who the hell
cares?!
Dark clouds poisoning my mind like nightmares.

Why am I wasting my time here on Earth?
I should have been dead when my mother gave
birth.
I will miss you all, family and friends.
This is where the story of my life ends.

Drowning

I take the knife,
cut my wrist.
I know that this is wrong.
Blood is pouring,
down my arm.
Listen to a calming song.
The blood is flowing,
fills the room.
Stomach turns inside out.
Drowning in sorrow,
weakness and lies.
Swallow blood so I can't shout:

Help.

I thought about suicide the first time when I was 10 and pondered it back and forth until I was 17. It was when I decided that life do suck most of the time but that it probably wouldnt be an improvement to end that I stopped thinking about it. The occasional gleams of light is better than no happiness at all which is probably what awaits in the afterlife. Not to mention that you will get there sooner or later and then have an eternity on you to experience it. And of course that suicide is the most selfish and cowardly act a human being can do, worth nothing but contempt, no matter how rough life has handled you.

Honestly yes ... though I know I would never pull the trigger.

BTA ... if my life were better, I wouldn't be on SP! I'd be enjoying myself in reality.

Mostly these thoughts come from depression or a level of stress that is beyond my means at the time.

My opinion, thinking about it once in a blue moon isn't terrible. Dwelling on it ... get help, seriously, life is too precious to throw away.

Circumstances change, people move on, time and grace can heal a multitude of sins.

The thought about suicide helped me through dark times, heights, knifes, trains, etc

But in the end youll see life is unfair and you should accept that, suicide is just running away..

But in the end, would that matter??

Never. I think that I'm a clear enough thinker where, if I get to the miserable point, I don't think of ending my life but start to think that some people that made me miserable would certainly look much better fitted out in a 6' x 3' piece of pine. (Never acted on that thought, though.)

some people dont commit suicide because they are scared of anything, or depressed, some people try it simply because they view life as 'not worth the effort' or at least i did, and i still do, i tried, and i would be dead now if some bloke didnt grab me on the edge of the rail track... i look back, and i think about how much courage it took to jump that time, and i know that i could never bring that much courage to my life again.
so i joined the forces, and see if i get my head blown off this way

When I've wanted an escape from life, when things have been really tough, I thought "maybe suicide would work", but then I said "a) that's stupid b) that's cowardly c)there's about a million things I want to do that would be rather difficult to do if I were dead and d) my life is WAY better than the life of about a billion people, so I've got NO right to even think about it unless I'm REALLY at the bottom of the heap, as opposed to just a little depressed.

So I've never even thought of or considered a method. If the lives of those dear to me were contingent on me removing myself from the planet, I'd choose either a gun, or a leap that wouldn't hurt anyone else by my fat butt landing on them.

I've thought about it, but never considered it. That is, I've never been in a frame of mind in which I thought it might be a viable thing to do.

My stance on suicide is pretty simple. It's GUARANTEED you will die. Death is the only promise life can definately keep. Why rush things?

I'm an atheist. As far as I know, when I die, I won't be greeted with a "happy place". There's nothing but oblivion. IMHO, oblivion is as bad as it gets. A life involving [even a lot of] pain is better, because at least you ARE.

I think people who kill themselves based on the belief that they are somehow going to be better off are taking a huge gamble... what do we KNOW about the afterlife?

As a side note, a cousin of mine committed suicide about eighteen months ago. It was very sad. She'd tried several times before she finally succeeded, and her family lived in constant fear that she'd try again. She was in her mid twenties. Her father found her, and she wasn't in a pretty state. I don't know how the poor guy got through it.

So Khelben, you mean my Mum has the right to kill me? ;)
I agree with Judas, its better to exist than not to. Even if life realy sucks. But then, oblivion can't be a bad thing for you as you do not exist, then, its not a particulary good thing either.

Oops. I voted for "Yes, yet I still live" on the Have you tried to commit suicide -part. I meant to say that I've thought about it many, many times, yet I still live. Not tried.

It's normal to think that way. I don't think any human goes past puberty without thinking of committing suicide at least once. If they do, then there's something wrong with them. Through my studies and hobbies, I've heard of, and consulted numerous youngsters about this. Thinking about suicide is normal, but nobody wants to think about it this way. If I say to a middle-aged adult something along the lines of "stop that whining, you're just going through a normal chrisis, it's not as if there's something special about it", it certainly isn't going to make him feel any easier about it. To the person in question this chrisis is very much the whole world, and there's nothing humorous about it. Of course, obviously just by talking through net, you can't tell when the case is real. So I'm not trying to advice you to pick this attitude towards everyone. Besides, many people can get real with their intentions if not taken seriously, as they're really just trying to get noticed. So whatever the most probable reason and consequence of a suicide threat is, it should always still be treated seriously.

No way. I'm quite happy most of the time, even getting bullyed dosn't seem to really bother me much. I just hit them back these days.

And my god poetry is boring. :sleep:

Sorry :good:

[ February 13, 2003, 12:55: Message edited by: Z-Layrex ]

I've thought about running away from problems in the past, but never by killing myself.

The thoughts were always about just leaving all the crap behind and going somewhere else, fresh start etc.

If places, relationships etc are that bad, leave those behind, not yourself.

So Khelben, you mean my Mum has the right to kill me?
LoL,hellz i mean God

LOL! :D

Suicide is just far too selfish. I've considered it several times, but then I think of my family and how sad they would be. I wouldn't dream of putting them through it, you've just got to get over it. I'm lucky I have a very close and loving family who help me get through everything.

I think there is a difference between just thinking about it and thinking about it in a serious intentionally way.

Sure I thought about it in a way of what would happend if I did. And every time I would see that it was like abandoning my family in the weakest most way.

My stance on suicide is pretty simple. It's GUARANTEED you will die. Death is the only promise life can definately keep. Why rush things?

I'm an atheist. As far as I know, when I die, I won't be greeted with a "happy place". There's nothing but oblivion. IMHO, oblivion is as bad as it gets. A life involving [even a lot of] pain is better, because at least you ARE.

I think people who kill themselves based on the belief that they are somehow going to be better off are taking a huge gamble... what do we KNOW about the afterlife? I couldn't agree more. I've thought about it, but I really don't see it as a way out.

While we're on the lyrics theme:

Sing me to sleep
Sing me to sleep
I'm tired and I
I want to go to bed
Sing me to sleep
Sing me to sleep
And then leave me alone
Don't try to wake me in the morning
'Cause I will be gone
Don't feel bad for me
I want you to know
Deep in the cell of my heart
I will be so glad to go
Sing me to sleep
Sing me to sleep
I don't want to wake up
On my own anymore
Sing to me
Sing to me
I don't want to wake up
On my own anymore
Don't feel bad for me
I want you to know
Deep in the cell of my heart
I really want to go
There is another world
There is a better world
Well, there must be
Well, there must be
Bye bye

"Suicide is just far too selfish. I've considered it several times, but then I think of my family and how sad they would be. I wouldn't dream of putting them through it, you've just got to get over it. I'm lucky I have a very close and loving family who help me get through everything. "
yeah, but when you think like that then you are nothing more then a slave
with regards to 'its better to exist then not to' you would never know that you didnt exist anymore, so you wouldnt get the chance to consider it

If I intended to commit suicide, I wouldn't give a damn about what my family would think. It's not like they care or something.

[ February 13, 2003, 17:35: Message edited by: Eze ]

BTA have you never been a teenager with hormones suddenly rush through your body? I am sure that about rounds it up.

Eilonwy it is natural. It is a way of reflecting upon life. By figuring death. Any healthy teen at "any" age should ponder on this. Conscious or not. Willingly or not.

EDIT;
A different story is planning and preparing a suicide. You end up dead ;) Then why the heck not go to Nepal and be a monk or a nun there. It is your life. worst case you just have one. It is never so miserable as it should end for good. If it is, just start all over. flee. New country, New ideals, new dreams. What is the worst that can happen? right. Death. Which was inevitable anyway...

[ February 13, 2003, 19:20: Message edited by: Nobleman ]

Pretty much agree with Depaara and Foradasthar. I've considered it (during my teenage years I might add -- when I was flunking out of college in spite of being somewhat close to a genius...), but I'm too much of a coward and didn't have a real desire to end my life anyway. I just didn't want to go on living the defeated life that I had. If you've never felt that way (*cough*BTA*cough*), congratulations. You must be singularly successful.

I'll say it again! Get a grip! Man it always amazes me how seriously people take their little problems (not to say that all of the problems above are little)

Have I had many failures in life in my 35 years? Of course I have; who hasn't? Have I had hormones rushing through my body in my teens? Of course I have; who doesn't?

Do defeats and setbacks make me want to kill myself? No.

I guess I've always had high self esteem regardless of the defeats, and I never really cared much for what others thought of me.

Perhaps that is the difference between me and you (and I don't mean that towards anyone specific).

[ February 14, 2003, 04:10: Message edited by: Blackthorne TA ]

Hmm, I've thought about it, plenty of times. But like, I was close once to succeeding, but like, I'm never alone long enough to actually complete the deed. Heh, that's kind of ironic, at least to me it is. It was a real bad time in my life, my whole family was using me in ways I don't want to publicly post, but now, I'm straight. I'm much healthier, mentally, and I don't have sucidial tendencies anymore. Besides, my b/f would kill me if I tried to do something. :D

BTA, I will say this.

California is a fairly diverse state. You guys just never really get into the hardcore Puritan side of the nation. To be honest, the Gold rush and Nevada and all the Mexicans kept the Puritans at bay. They got shut down in Utah. =)

To be honest, it's something the rest of the Nation could use a heathy dose of.



As far as Eilonwy goes, hang in there!

Those teen years are the toughest part of your entire life. Brainwashed, tortured, subjugated, and dominated. Everyone has to survive it, but there are some parts of the world where it's a better experience. You're probably just in one of the rough sides of the neighborhood, like the rest of us.

Hang in there Eilonwy! It gets better!

I won't end my own life, at least not until I have tortured to death all those I have deemed unworthy of existence. And their families and children with them.

:evil:

What is life but a terminal disease to which death is the answer?
Death will come, regardless of whatever you do. No sense in rushing towards it.
Live hard, die well. And leave a trail of corpses in your wake. :evil:

Actually yes. But I eventually considered it beeing an incredible vanity to deny the world my very presence only because life sucks. Suicide actually is a very narcistic thing to do.

Try wearing pink sunglasses when you face life :hippy: When it becomes totally unbearable you can still consult a psychologist and receive the blessings of the modern pharmaceutical industry. I mean, you'll be a completely different person, but hey, everything is groovy! :hippy:

Welcome to the boards :lol:

When my mother had depression she took medication but they mad it worse and she got better when she stoped taking them.

I don't really agree with medication that makes such changes unless it is what the people want.

BTA, some take a beating and jump up ready to kick ass back, others sit down and feel bad about themself. That's the way people are. (This has a lot to do with selfesteem.) To you their problems might seem trivial, but to them the problems are real and seem huge. It has a huge impact on their lives, apparently enough to consider suicide. It's a way out for them, an escape from the psychological torment they're under.

Honestly? Yes I've thought about it. Several times actually. Never tried it though. There have been times when I felt so broken, so crushed that I didn't see anything good anymore. I won't list my reasons, because to others they might seem trivial. To me they were huge grotesque problems, which pained me greatly. At those times I thought about suicide. However eventually there always came things that made think differently. The hurt I would bring to my parents was the main reason several times, though there have been more.

I am no longer the person I was a couple of years ago, and when I look back at that time I can still feel my agony, the pain I was going through. I must honestly say though, that I will always keep the option of suicide open. I'd rather take my own life at the time of my choice than wait in torment till the end comes. But I can't say what kind of problem would hurt me enough to push me over that boundary between wanting to live and wanting to end the pain.

(Edit) Some say suicide is running away, others call it cowardly. Personally, I see it as a way to stop the pain. There's no use in suffering. On that note, yes I support euthanasia, and yes I think that suicidepills should be condoned. (With the obvious restrictions on it of course, you don't want to be able to buy that at a drugstore) (/Edit)

If I would've attempted it, (never did) it would've been rope or pills, perhaps a weapon. Most likely would be breaking my own neck using MartialArt techniques. (Which isn't all that difficult really) I'd notify the police in advance. That way people who are trained to handle such situations would be confronted with my suicide, instead of people who aren't, and who aren't prepared for it. (like family or friends)

[ February 15, 2003, 13:18: Message edited by: Faragon ]

Well, it appears that most people have thought about it at one time or another, including myself. We're not bots, with programmed "fixes" for negative stimuli. Being humans as we are, it all boils down to 2 things, imo -- fear and love. For me, I do not fear what lays on the other side, however I do fear the loss of options--that there is no turning back, not ever, at least in the knowledge I have currently. And then "love" -- is escape of the pain more important than the harm it does to others? For most of us that answer is no. For me, it is no. But the answer can be very different for those who have no "others".

I've lost two suicides on the phone when I was 911 dispatching. In both cases, they had no "others". I believe they wanted to live, or they wouldn't have called. And I wrestled with the fact that "I let them die", which took many months to get past and I still think about occasionally. (I sat there with the phone in my hand for quite some time.)

We all experience pain...but when combined with aloneness -- the situation becomes unrecoverable for many people. And so while I frequently go about my selfish business and sometimes turn a blind eye to someone in need, I am always, nevertheless, left with a nagging reminder---no one ever wants to be the "other" that was left behind-- even if it is a surrogate.

Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realise and I can see

That suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.

The game of life is hard to play
I'm going to lose it anyway
the losing card I'll someday lay
so this is all I have to say

Suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.

The sword of time will pierce our skins
it doesn't hurt when it begins
but as it works its way on in
the pain grows stronger...
watch it grin

Suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.

A brave man once requested me
to answer questions that are key
is it to be or not to be
and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

Suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.

And you can do the same thing if you please
That's a good movie. Everyone should watch that one, at least once. Sure, Sure. There's some naughty words. And sexual innuendos. And nudity. And violence. And homosexuality. And prostitution.

I still consider it a "family" movie. Not something you watch when you're 8 or 10. But I'd have to say 12 is about the age where it starts becomming a "family movie".

Well i am very much with BTA on this issue.

Sorry but i had medical depression for two years, i mean really badly, at one point i was so scared of the world ending that i sat up without sleeping for 76 hours!
But i never, i repeat NEVER considered suicide. My problems felt bad at the time, but is till had enough of a grip on reality to realise that my life was peachy compared to a lot of other people.
Commiting suicide would be selfish and weak and pathetic. And i would only hurt my family and friends in my vain and final attempt to seek attention.
So i never considered it.

You can whine till your blue in the face, but if you are able to sit in front of a computer and have the time to type on this board then you have no RIGHT to consider your problems bad enough to commit suicide over.

Harsh, but fair i think. Get a grip.

tHought of it? Yes. Tried it? No. Know someone who has tried it? Plenty. Known someone who has succeeded? Yes.

In my case, I never did anything because I am too attached to life, and because I ama bit of a Haer'Dalis when it comes to afterlife....

Others? I have no idea.

More, later, perhaps...

(Thirsty)

A friend of mine killed himself two weeks ago. He never gave any signals that he was that depressed. He hung himself in his own house. Must have been an awful sight for his wife and daughter. I never understood people who would do such a thing as committing suicide, but to do it like this, where he leaves his family with a picture they'll never forget, makes me more mad than sad.

Your life is your own. The times I thought about suicide I always knew that what people who were left behind me thought of it was not an issue, since I would not be there to contemplate on it. Yet I do agree that committing a suicide in a manner that will uselessly make the people close to you suffer even more than they had to, is unforgivable.

As for suicide being the same as giving up? Maybe it is. But it doesn't give anyone the right to go blaming people of it, since quite clearly the only person who had any idea of what he had to go through was the one who isn't around anymore. The fact that somebody's problems seem light and meaningless to you doesn't mean that they are that to him. And an opinion of "suicide is giving up, failing, and unforgivable in all circumstances" will change quite swiftly with any person, given the right circumstances. So lay off with the narrowmindedness, please.

Many of my friends and familiars have died. Not one because of suicide, though I do know some who've tried. There's nothing you can say to someone like that to come off of it. But I don't think it's merely a disease that someone would want to do that. As for a "mentally healthy" person it takes an incredible amount of courage to even try. Many people who've committed suicide have in fact only realised that life is not the big thing our genes and culture may make us believe. And they have the courage to end this charade instead of weakly staying alive for what they know is nothing.

As should be obvious by my posts in some other threads, I don't believe that life should be something to thrive for at any price, and over all else. Life may be a gift, but as nonexistence or "limbo" as some call it, equals the middleground of "neutral", then even that is better than a life of suffering. If a person loses a family, work, house and who knows what else, or if that person always loved running around and moving, doing physical things, and got paralyzed, I don't think it's wrong at all for him to wish to end his life.

Foradasthar, I agree completely with you.

Failed once but I'll never do it again. The world is much prettier if you look with both eyes.

you dont have to have problems, set backs or depression to want to commit suicide, some people simply do not want to live.
when i was suicidal it wasnt because i had problems in life, i did well in school, im physically fit, didnt have many cares in the world, but the simple fact was that i didnt want to live it, i looked at life and thought "what a pointless endevor" everyone dies at some point, so everything you work for will someday be for naught, why bother postponing it?

Thought about it, yes, but never to the point of considering it. I've always been very fortunate and well-raised that it just never struck me as a viable solution.

@Eze
It always pains me to hear about adolescents in your condition. The important thing is to find things that you have going for you (there's bound to be dozens, if not hundreds), and hang on to them. The hormones run rampant at that age and remove much of our rationality. The important thing is to have the self-confidence and strength to face it.

I attended a seminar on this once, hosted by medical professionals well versed in the field. One of their assertions was that the suicidal person is not thinking rationally. They mentioned a teenage girl who had a pistol, stood in the middle of a room, laid out a bunch of pillows to cushion her fall once she had blown her brains out. The reality of death had no meaning to her, as the pillows indicate.

A desire to die may strike a lot of people, but it takes an illness or other severely unbalancing event to make people actually try. It is certainly NOT "courage" that makes people try suicide -- I would argue that it takes a great deal more courage to survive and tough it out.

Well that depends on the reason. If the desicion to commint a suicide comes out of logical deduction then yes, it does take courage to see it through. If it's an ailment in your mental condition, then courage is hardly a factor.

Note that most suicide cases do come out of a serious depression or some suchlike condition where you can hardly say the individual is in his normal state of mind. But not nearly all of them. The world isn't as black and white as that.