View Full Version : 10 More Days Until the End of Saddam


Blackhawk
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 12:24am
Well, its just 10 more days until the end of the Iraqi regime. Hip Hip Hooray! :)

Kitrax
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 12:46am
Although I think this topic should be in the Alley of Dangerous Angles...All I can say is:

Hoooooooraaaaay! :rolling:

Oaz
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 1:06am
This can't be good. Saddam has done much to modernize Iraq, and many of his people support him; the last election was in 97% support of him. And now Bush decides that Saddam just has to go down because he has one or two warheads. Yeah, right. If we trust America with all those weapons, surely we can trust the Iraqi dictator with one. Besides, the U.S. has no right to care about the rest of the world, or try to interfere with other nations.

I'm sure going to miss Saddam...

[ March 09, 2003, 04:18: Message edited by: C'Jakob ]

ejsmith
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 1:13am
Maybe.

Maybe just the start of the end. Maybe the start of a whole other struggle.

I have to say, I do sweat being called up; a little bit.

Blackhawk
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 5:10am
the last election was in 97% support of himOf course he received a huge percentage in the election - he was the only candidate! :eek:

In the United States, the whole Iraqi election was treated as almost a parody of democracy. Its bad enough that he calls himself a "President"; even worse that he holds a symbolic election.

The percentage even seems a tad low. The Iraqi government controls the press as well as every other institution of free thought and belief. Its not amazing that he would be able to propagandize with great efficiency. Then again, the Iraqi people have never had democracy and may be completely ignorant of what it is. A pity.

Fortunately, they will soon be freed - even if at first they don't realize what it means.

Second, Americans do not like the idea of Saddam having nuclear weapons because he is a dictator. Dictators rule for themselves not their people. If it is in his best interest to use a nuclear bomb - he will. He killed civilians before - the kurds - when it suited him.

Americans believe that his government is far to primitive to have such power.

[ March 09, 2003, 06:30: Message edited by: Blackhawk ]

Kitrax
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 8:30am
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the last election was in 97% support of him
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Of course he received a huge percentage in the election - he was the only candidate! :eek: /me hugs Blackhawk

I'm sure going to miss Saddam...
Are you insane!?!? I think you should move to Iraq if you truely believe that. :rolling:

Ancalìmon
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 9:46am
In my opinion, those conflicts will never end.

Pyro
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 10:09am
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=384604

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2760301.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/05/terror.amnesty.internat/index.html

http://cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2002/12/27/hukmanrights021226

Why does everyone care about Saddam when there is a worse criminal among us??? I would rather see Bush dead than Saddam. No one who supports the actions on Guantanamo bay are innocent.

Morgoth
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 10:31am
Fortunately, they will soon be freed - even if at first they don't realize what it means. LOL.. yeah sure

Arabwel
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 10:42am
Those of the Allied Mára Níra Dictatorships wou8ld probably welcome Saddam....

But inside jokes aside, I don't think this is good. Bush is too damn stupid to do anything right in this matter... he'll screw up the war.

(Being annoying)

Taluntain
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 11:16am
Wrong forum. Moving.

Oaz
Sun, 9th Mar '03, 4:08pm
Boys and girls, I was being sarcastic! If you read the "Is Saddam Serious With This?" post, I think you'll find much on my opinion on Saddam.

I doubt Bush will screw up the war. The U.S. military is powerful. Iraq military morale is fairly low (except for the Republican Guard). The war will be decisive, like Desert Storm.

I agree that the U.S. should definitely be, uh, gentler, as Pyro pointed out. But at least Bush isn't doing bad things to his own people.

Llandon
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 2:13am
Wow

I'm all broken up over the two guys dying under US supervision. I can't believe that some of these guys in GITMO are being ruffed up. I just figured they were there getting 3 hot meals a day and soaking up the sun.

Have any of y'all seen the Daniel Pearl video? I can guarantee the prisoners at camp X ray are being treated better than that poor guy.

Blackhawk
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 2:58am
Its a pity that the Pearl murder video wasn't shown on U.S. Television. Not one of the networks had the courage to show what a terrorist truely is.

[ March 10, 2003, 04:39: Message edited by: Blackhawk ]

martaug
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 10:51am
blackhawk, i agree with you 100%. the daniel pearl video shows just how little respect for human rights the muslim community has.

Blackhawk
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 11:40am
Whoa! Don't go that far. :eek:

The whole problem with Al Qaeda and the rest of the fundamentalists should not be used to condemn the Muslim faith. Practically all Muslims - like members of other faiths - are good and noble people.

Like the chaos in the Middle East, Europe went through a similar era - the Renaissance. During this period, the rights of the individual began to raise above the rights of the state. The freedom of speech, the freedom of/from religion, etc... were new concepts for Europeans.

The Middle East is going through its respective Renaissance. On one side, you have the traditional-thinking conservatives and the new-thinking liberals. Unlike the battles you see in the western world - where the liberal/conservative difference is over a set of minutia, in the Middle East the gap is profound. Democracy and individuism are not concepts that are supported by the "old guard".

Darkwolf
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 2:44pm
I can't find verification, but supposedly over the weekend a group of 6 or so Iraqi soldiers supposedly crossed the Kuwaiti border with white flags held high. They tried to surrender to some British troops, but the Brits told them that they couldn't surrender as there was no conflict. Sent them back to the Iraqi trenches.

I actually hope this one isn't true, because if it is there are now 6 Iraqi soldier who are probably dead because they didn't want to fight for Saddam. No way Saddam can let something like that pass.

[ March 10, 2003, 19:35: Message edited by: Darkwolf ]

Blackhawk
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 8:08pm
Darkwolf - I really hope that isn't true.

Shralp
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 8:35pm
It's true. Just heard it on the radio.

No worries, though. They'll just hide out and surrender later.

Morgoth
Mon, 10th Mar '03, 9:58pm
The American government denied that.

Charlie
Wed, 12th Mar '03, 5:30am
It is unfortunate that we don't have any SPers from the Middle East, except perhaps teekc. I'd like to hear their opinions especially since the war will be in their part of the world. I think we've discussed the pros and cons of the war. Just let me know how the war affects your country if war does break out. I'm guessing that it wouldn't affect the developed countries too much. But in my country we've had gas/petrol prices have gone up at least three times in the past two months. I've stopped taking my car.

Life will be more difficult when war begins and its effects will last even if the war is short. But that's the luxury people from the First World countries enjoy, war without repercussions. I'm sure some will disagree but perhaps you can delay your replies until after war has started.

teekc
Wed, 12th Mar '03, 6:34pm
??

i am from Malaysia. i just put afghanistan for ...erm... fun.