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Laches
Thu, 22nd May '03, 4:36pm
The Arabic television channel al-Jazeera has broadcast what it says is an audio tape of al-Qaeda's second-in-command urging Muslims to carry out more suicide attacks.

In the tape, a man identified by the channel as Ayman al-Zawahri urges attacks on the embassies and interests of the United States, Britain, Australia and Norway, to drive them from Muslim countries.

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Norway, meanwhile, says it has no idea why it was singled out by for attacks on its interests.

BBC's Lars Bevanger in Oslo says people there were baffled because Norway has a reputation for its attempts to bring peace to the Middle East.

Norway has some troops in Afghanistan, but analysts say it is small and other countries have larger numbers.

Our correspondent says the Norwegians are hoping al-Qaeda simply got its geography wrong but they are nonetheless taking the threat seriously. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3048275.stm

Now, this one fried my noodle for a bit. I actually wondered for a bit if someone had made a mistake - "oops, sorry, we meant kill the infidels in Spain. Leave the infidels in Norway alone for the time being."

After some thought though, it probably has to do with the Norwegian attack penguin capabilities. Heh, this is an aside, but check out this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/silly/story/0,10821,538537,00.html

Maybe they're worried about bands of death penguins?

Actually, probably has something to do with this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2873521.stm

Still, seems like it is still a highly puzzling country to pick on.

This is highly inappropriate I'm sure, but I find the whole scenario somewhat amusing - sorry for you Norwegians out there, hope y'all stay safe.

Iago
Thu, 22nd May '03, 5:34pm
In the tape, a man identified by the channel as Ayman al-Zawahri urges attacks on the embassies and interests of the United States, Britain, Australia and Norway, to drive them from Muslim countries.
As I am coming from a small country myself, I had funny conversations involving my nationality:
" I am swiss."
"Oh, Sweden, what a great country."
"Ah, no Switzerland, that one with the alps"
"Austria !!!, yes skiing in Austria!"
"No, that one were they speak French"
"Belgium ??"

I personally think they made a mistake. It would be interesting to know, how the name of the countries sound in arabic.

They propably meant either: Poland or Danemark

Poland -> Poland and Norway may have similar names in arabic

Danemark -> Maybe wrong association -> What was that other country ? One of those "nordic" countries. Northern ? Norse ? Norway ?

Is the second one true, than I'll bet all scandinavians are relieved, that the didn't say "Finland". They can't have it, when someone thinks "Finland" is a scandinavian country. At least that's my personal expirience. No pun versus suomi intended.

Poland, asked by the US to run one of four proposed "sectors" of Iraq, suggested involving German troops in the force in an apparent fence-mending move

Earlier Defence Minister Peter Struck said he was surprised by the suggestion but would discuss it during a visit to Denmark, another country which may send peacekeepers to Iraq

Defence Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski said on Monday that the government would seek Nato help with operational planning, intelligence and communications systems but that Poland was taking a "leading role" in the zone.

Washington has asked Poland to take control of one of four post-conflict zones in Iraq in recognition of its strong support for the US-led war.

Germany, Denmark and Poland have been asked to contribute troopshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3008323.stm

Viking
Thu, 22nd May '03, 6:54pm
I heard this on the radio on the way home from work, and I must confess I was shocked.

Big, bad Norway? Have we thrown our weight around that much? I didn't think so either. I know what you're saying Laches, this surely must be some mistake?

Here is a link to an article in English (http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=550828) from one of the main Norwegian broadsheets about the threat entitled "Why Norway". In all honesty I think Norwegians are baffled by this.

I also note that the US embasy in Oslo was closed yesterday after the announcement, though it didn't say if it has now been re-opened. The UK foreign office is considering advising people not to travel there. Mad stuff. Hopefully nothing comes from these threats, but I think it could well get the US greater support for any future actions from the Norwegian Government!

Iago
Thu, 22nd May '03, 7:19pm
but I think it could well get the US greater support for any future actions from the Norwegian Government! Fallacy. That is base on the assumption, that US-Goverment efforts have any kind of use. I doubt that. I know nothing about domestic norwegian affairs, as you are half Norwegian, you know better. But still, why should increased security measures lead to support of US-Goverment action ? Rather puzzling to me.

Still, my opinion is, they confused Norway with another country. Like the Russians. They always confuse the British with the Germans. :evil: :evil: :D . Some barbarians from the west, a.k.a. the "francs".

Nobleman
Thu, 22nd May '03, 8:26pm
He confused Denmark with Norway. Its the safest bet. Remember the extremely scary results Joacqin posted from National Geographics. Why should the arab countries be any better at geographics than The rest of the world. Scandinavia is just one country to them, in worst case scenarios.

Its the most likely bet that he confused Norway with Denmark. Really weird situation. THough there is a person (was in the news, can't remember his name and doesn't really care) with connection to Osama Bin laden who lives in Norway and has been treated very badly by the government. Could be that reason...

Anyway Norway thought they could be hiding up there, getting rich on the oil they took all of, while not participating in much in Europe. Really peculiar situation, that the facelss Norway is suddenly in Leauge with USA. Strange.

[ May 22, 2003, 21:13: Message edited by: Nobleman ]

Morgoth
Thu, 22nd May '03, 9:23pm
Well thank god (??) Osamah likes the Dutchies, since we oh so became muslim after 9/11... :hmm:

He even praised us for that, whaddayaknow

Iago
Thu, 22nd May '03, 11:09pm
Denmark.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,249911,00.html

Ganz anders Nachbar Dänemark: Die Regierung in Kopenhagen gehörte zur Koalition der Willigen, beteiligte sich am Krieg und sieht sich inzwischen als eigentlichen Adressaten der Drohungen. "Er meint auf jeden Fall Dänemark", sagte Helle Lykke Nielsen, Terrorismusexperte an der Universität von Süddänemark. "Er warnt ganz offensichtlich die Mitglieder der Kriegskoalition." Im Nahen Osten würden die skandinavischen Länder häufig verwechselt. Translation (Word for word, as my English allows it):

The neighbouring country of Norway Denmark belonged to the group of the willing, participated in the war and thinks, it has been adressed. "He speaks surely of Denmark", says danish terrorism expert Helle Lykke Nielsen, university of Southdenmark."Obviously is he threatening the members of the war-coalition." In the middle-east, the scandinavian countries are often confused.

Das vermutet auch der Direktor des Friedensforschungsinstituts in Oslo, Stein Toennesen. Er sagte, möglicherweise habe der al-Sawahiri, dessen Stimme auf dem Tonband zu hören sein soll, Norwegen mit Dänemark verwechselt. Stein Toennesen, director of the peaceresearchinstitute in Oslo (Norway), is assuming the same. He said that it is quite possible, that al-Sawahiri, the alleged voice on the record, confused Norway with Denmark.

Nobleman
Thu, 22nd May '03, 11:24pm
Exciting. I know Helle Personally. Good to know she is backing my views or I would have bothered her tomorrow at uni about this ,Yago, Quoting her strange ideas. And I'll poke her with her English. :1eye:

Anyway. The danish Version of CIA states that there are clear indications that it is indeed Norway that is the target. Hopefully time will NOT tell what is correct. Nomatter what country it is both Denmark and Norway seem to be at a higher alert. So it doesn't really matter what country they meant.

Iago
Thu, 22nd May '03, 11:28pm
At nobleman. I guess you now the tune, when you're in a small European country, the usual theme is BEING confused with another country. NOT being confused with another country is always a surprise. If people do not confuse my country with another one, I usually have 2 assumptions:

A. The know a lot of geography.

B. They've been there.

And I repeat: Luxembourg is NOT Lichtenstein. And Macedonia is a south-east European country, not a province of greece. Makedonia on the other hand is no country, but a province of greece. :D ;)

Oops, or did I confuse Makedonia and Macedonia. Well, at least I am sure that Slovenia is somewhere in the south, Slovacia is somewhere in the east.

And I'll poke her with her English Don't tell me it is that bad. :eek: :( :mommy: It was at least understandable.

Sidenote: They forgot to threaten Italy and Spain.

[ May 22, 2003, 23:41: Message edited by: Yago ]