the doors to Auchwitz opened and the prisoners were set free.

I would just like to mention it, for all of you who didn't know that today is the anniversary.

Edit: The celebration is going to be on Thursday the 27th and several thousand people are going to participate. Among those, former prisoners and representatives of over 40 countries. The number of speakers has been reduced to minimum, so only three people will talk after the sound of incoming train and the music (intertwined "Waves" by Krzysztof Kittel and Bach's "Die Kunst der Fuge"): Professor Bartoszewski (former prisoner), Simone Veil (former Jewish prisoner), Romani Rose (former Gypsie prisoner). Bartoszewski and Veil are going to sign the Charter of the International Centre for Teaching on Auschwitz and the Holocaust to be opened on the turn of 2006 and 2007.

After the prisoners finish speaking, a message from Pope John Paul II will be read and the presidents of Poland, Russia and Israel will be speaking. The cantor Symecha Keller will play on the shofar, ecumenical prayers will be said, and then the El Maale Rabamim prayer.

They will also commemorate the British POWs and Jacques Chirac will open a permanent exposition on the French Jews and other French people (about 3 thousand, 969 surviving) in the camp.

Protests are also scheduled on Thursday. The Committee for Free Caucassus will be protesting against Putin's visit and the Coalition for Jewish Concerns (or something similar, I might be translating the name back into English) will be protesting in front of a Catholic church in Birkenau, demanding it to be removed.

[ January 27, 2005, 00:10: Message edited by: chevalier ]

the Coalition for Jewish Concerns (or something similar, I might be translating the name back into English) will be protesting in front of a Catholic church in Birkenau, demanding it to be removed.Okay, let me get this straight? If someone says that they don't want a Jewish synagoga in their town, they are nazi and all that, but Jews can go on whatever they like?

I have nothing against jews, for crying out loud, my father's mother are from Germany and were a Jew in WWII, but how some groups act, including the Israeli government, that is just stupid.


That said, I must mention that our family was scheduled to go there, but we had to cancel it. Only my father's parents will go there, and I wished I could go with them. Lost several relatives I never had the chance to get to know cause of that stupid camp.

This single quote is sufficient for you to go on about how "Jews can go on whatever they like"?

At least one could try to understand what is going on, eh? I find some inconsistency between seeing someone mentioning (and, for all that I know, quite selectively) a "Coalition for Jewish Concerns" (which members or aims I don't know) demanding a church removed (for reasons that somehow didn't find their way into the statement) and equalizing this with how "the Jews" on the whole act stupidely - including the Israeli government.

So here I am, founding an "Association for Jewish interests in Eastern Germany" and demanding that all catholic churches should be closed - and this somehow ends up speaking against "Jews" and, what's more important, against Sharon?

This single quote is sufficient for you to go on about how "Jews can go on whatever they like"?Sorry, should've clarified this more. In Sweden, and I guess many other places, you can't even critizise ANYTHING, not one little thing that a Jew does, without being called a nazi. I did not, and I repeat NOT, say that all Jews do it, which I IMHO quite clearly said in my post. What I did was complaining that calling an invidual Jew an idiot is nazi behaviour, but a Jew calling an invidual Christian/Müslim/Jehova's Witness/<insert any other religion or belief other than Judaism here> an idiot is just fine.

And *****ing against Sharon is something I do all the time. I don't want a second DDR.


But now, this is being a bit off-topic, and I shouldn't have brought it up, but it just pisses me off.

[ January 27, 2005, 16:37: Message edited by: Caleb* ]

This would be a very hard but wonderful day for the survivors. I believe there will be 1 minute silence. But I don't know at what time. I get the feeling I allready missed it.

Hmm, it really got time we started to remember those innocents who died for nothing.
25% of all those who died in the camps, where massacred in Auswitsch-Birkenau, how horrible.
To think of it, i'm going to Dachau next week.
I have a book at home which shows the true horrors of the "death-camps", man, what a sick stories and pictures are in there.
Yes, let racism and facism and.

"May god bless those who died in vain, for they suffered enormes pain, may we remember what happened there, so it may not happen anywhere"