View Full Version : Discover your own stats in D&D. Attempt Umpteen.
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 3:54pm
Here is the link to a very simple test I have found on the internet. While we could question the exhaustivenes of it, it's quite well laid out and definitelly well-though. Note that it's not made specifically to assess a modern human's stats, but it is as though meant to put the candidate in the frames of D&D numbers. Which means that stats above your average peasant (9 across the board) are almost certain, while it is nearly impossible to become uber like the grown epic characters are.
A little bit of warning, though: strength may be broken. I've tried it, and it seems that the weight you can lift has a very little effect - for example raising it by 100 pounds will only raise your STR stat by a single point.
I'm sharing my outcome first:
STR 12 (13)
CHA 17 (18)
Edit: Feats: Allertness, Combat Casting, Ambidexterity (well, I've never really tried dual-wielding, but I switch hands in fencing)
Can't say it's bad. Well, it's 88 total, which is above what you can get at start in most point-buy modes, even with a stat bonus race. I am a little bit surprised about the STR, I'd say it's something in the region of 14, and quite surprised at the CON score being so high while I have asthma (not like illnesses couldn't shoot down your performance by going around your stats instead of crippling them), and I remain skeptical towards the mental stats.
Strength: I'm quite big. 195 cm, which is 6'5''. I don't weigh much - just 75 kg (+/- 175 lbs). I could lift 140 lbs last time in the gym. That's it if the special gear is considered, because I can lift people who are heavier than that (and heavier than I am). Once, when I was 18, I got drunk and lifted all people at the New Year's Eve party when exchanging wishes and hugs ;) .
As for punching, I punched 745 out of 1000 during last holidays. In highschool, I would go at the boxing bag bare-handed to show the showing off guys how it's really done.
When I was 19, I survived a prolonged broadsword (Viking style) fight with a grown man of arms twice thicker than mine. Tie, all hits parried or blocked (wet ground wasn't good for dodging).
Power attack seems surprisingly familiar...
Dexterity: Surely not as great as I would like it to be. I had very good aim when I didn't wear glasses. Would have a better one with contacts, but I prefer glasses. Some problems with skating and the like (locomotive illness makes me want to vomit), but I'm very good with slippery surfaces, nimble, can sneak, do finger tricks etc, and type 60 wpm in English / 300 chars per minute in Polish. Can dance, too. One of the best recovery times I've seen in my life (thanks for the training, Dad). Good dodging and using the walls/tables/chairs/windows for support and everything. You know, I've known strange people ;)
Constitution: Greater than I used to like it to be ;) I mean, in d&d games it's the lowest stat I take, and generally high CON doesn't fit my semi-elvish, geekish image. However, I can drink 3 bottles of wine, several Mad Dogs (vodka + raspberry juice + tobasco sauce), some beer and some champagne without appearing drunk. Also, I can hold 13 coffees. I have once stayed connected to #sorcerers for 35 hours. Can keep working hard and playing hard with 20 hours of sleep in a fortnight - not sleeping, (ab)using the internet and having parties - or sightseeing during the day and having fun overnight when farther away. Mostly indifferent to pain - I just don't care. I have given speeches and lectures with a bleeding throat and un-breaking voice, just for the sake of my vanity :rolleyes: Same to cold, heat, hunger, illnesses etc. That's for mortals. Still, I was weak and often ill as a child, and I was fat until early highschool. My constitution vastly improved when they actually made me use it and when I lost weight and became skinny. Asthma has remained with me, though :rolleyes:
Intelligence: As a kid, I always stood out, but later I discovered computers and partying and stuff. Dropped from wunderkind to something like top 5 student in my highschool - one of the best here, and one of the two in this country that have the special "classical profile" - Latin, Greek, Antique Civ, special history & literature curriculum and the like. They were teaching us 4 languages at one time at one point. Now I'm getting B's more often than A's, but at least it's the best Law Department in the country, so I don't complain.
Languages: Polish (native), English, French, Latin. Some ancient Greek. Used to learn German, started learning Italian. I bet programming languages don't count, do they? ;)
Skills: I've learnt really obscure stuff and I'm not going to bore you to death bragging about it.
IQ: Usually mid 140's, sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit more. But those tests are crap and I never devote full attention to them and only really do them when I'm bored, underslept and high.
Wisdom: Well, I've grown cynical over ages - live had thrown a bit at me at a young age. Distance and temperance. Distance to distance, temperance in temperance. According to Jung/Myers-Briggs, I'm the intuitive judging thinker type. I'm constantly counselling someone. Good at and against manipulation. Good with body language, homegrown psychology and the like.
Charisma: OK, whatever I say is going to sound awful. Boasting and all. People who know me typically rate me 17+ and from my experience I have to agree with them. Surely I'm not the handsomest man or the leading presidential candidate, though ;)
Post yours, discuss your results or whatever, but remember this is for fun only ;) Enjoy!
[ March 30, 2004, 17:32: Message edited by: chevalier ]
Xei Win Toh
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 4:06pm
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 4:38pm
ooh. no! I'm a geek! :D
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 5:23pm
Hmmm, STR, INT, and CHA look far too high to me.... :)
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 5:37pm
Feats: Combat Casting, Dodge, Expertise, Improved Unarmed Strike
I think Con is a bit highm but other than that, I can agree with the stats given.
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 5:41pm
I'd be more suited for a mage no? (With a max of 4th level spell)
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 5:45pm
:( You all have such good stats!
I do agree with mine though.
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 5:58pm
Str - 08
Dex - 12
Con - 10
Int - 14
Wis - 11
Cha - 12
I suppose I agree with that. :)
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 6:02pm
I had almost everything in 13 -even though I had to guess how much I could lift (in 'pounds' -damn brits and their odd measure-units). Isn't it odd that most of here haven't got anything near "9" or below, when those should be the most common ones? ;)
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 6:36pm
If we took peeople from the street at random, it would probably be closer to 10 across the board. The average is 10 - average people don't have negative modifiers associated with stats.
An average SPer gravitates towards geekdom, speaks at least one foreign language well if is not a native speaker to English, can handle computers and the internet, has some imagination required for roleplaying, some creativity (esp. fanfiction writers, DMs, amateur artists, modders and so on) and so on. While geekdom hurts charisma, being the local computer expert or linguist or educated sage of the community surely helps. Plus, commnicating succesfully and achieving set goals despite the lack of face-to-face or vocal contact. Also, literacy in broad sense, facilitates communication without dabbling with diplomacy, bluff, intimidation or any interpersonal skills in the strict sense. That's why mental stats tend to be higher. We're simply not representative for the whole of society.
Now, physical stats. Generally, 10 is average for all. As a general rule that needs not be proved, males will be stronger and females will be more nimble. Constitution is debatable, but men are more likely to train it to higher levels. I believe that a proper course of PE at schools, over many years, is likely to result in better dexterity and maybe also constitution. Physical work and working out will raise strength. That is because strength is not a quotient, it is defined by tangible values and therefore a 13 STR kid is as strong as a 13 STR adult. At least in theory, because other factors such as weight or height still have effect. Mostly in lifting, but the size of a punch coming in your nose is most certainly relevant from the perspective of the projected impact on your face :shake: ;) :book:
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 7:42pm
18 wisdom??? ME?!!?! :eek: :confused: :eek:
... don't get it...
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 7:58pm
I have had the lowest score as of yet, I managed to get a 6 in dexterity. I am wondering whether it is too high.
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 8:44pm
Not bad :wave:
Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 8:49pm
I'd say mine are pretty accurate:
That's 75 total.
@ Sarevok - Not bad? More like pretty freakin' amazing. That's the highest total thus far!
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 9:02pm
It is?? I thought perhaps I went a bit mad but I was honest with my answers and I done it again and got the same. I would say Str 16 and Dex 14 maybe Wis 10, that would be more like it.
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 9:45pm
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 9:53pm
Everyone has great strength... As the weight lifted doesn't affect much... I bet you're all bear-sized with arms the width of a young tree :shake: :lol: ;)
BTW, it's meant to be the weight lifted above one's head - at least in theory. Picked up from the ground doesn't suffice. Just a down-to-earth notice not aimed to spoil the fun for anyone ;)
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 10:29pm
I don't think any of us should flatter ourselves. It's easy to decide that you have a 15 Int, but it's a different matter when I tell you to read a chapter on Biochemistry and give you a quiz on it the next day.
In any case, I'm surprised on my stats: I figured lower physical scores:
Str 10 Dex 12 Con 12 Int 12 Wis 10 Cha 9
Total is 65 points. Using the D&D point buy system, this is 17 points (which is a bit better than what's probably average, since the average person present in the Monster Manual gets 62/14 points).
By the way, comeliness doesn't reprsent Charisma. *scowls at Mr. Khopesh*
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 10:42pm
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 10:49pm
Feats: Combat Casting, Endurance, Alertness.
But I do like the bit at the bottom of the page, about giving extra feats to fencers...we should get feats like weapon focus and the like, IMO.
On the whole though, I think this quiz is too...subjective to be really accurate (ex. what might be Very Good or Above Average to one person, might be Average or Excellent to another).
[ March 30, 2004, 07:08: Message edited by: Faerus Stoneslammer ]
Mon, 29th Mar '04, 10:54pm
Woah. Well, I guess I am a big guy. And I do work out at the gym 5 days a week.
I like my 19 constitution. That is what you get for never breaking a bone or twisting an ankle. I get sick maybe once every couple of years, but nothing major. And I can hold my drinks. :p
I am invincible I say!! :D
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 1:15am
Feats: Alertness, Combat Casting, Run, and the martial art i do does not fit into any of the provided check boxes.
Been an athlete all my life and am a ######## martial artist. I'm suprised, but i would have to say i agree with those stats. My youth helps on the physical side i think. Yep.
I do agree with Faerus about it being subjective though.
The asterixed out word was not really a rude one, all i said was h.core.
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 1:40am
That fits me quite well. Not overly strong but not weak, quite nimble, never get really sick and have never broken a bone despite my laddish childhood. A bit disappointed with my Int but I already knew I was not super smart. Wis seems about right...
I dont know about cha since I'm (not being big headed) quite good looking but have a hard time drawing people to myself.
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 3:31am
I went back to check on the last "post your stats" thread just to compare. Apparently I underrated myself the first time (or overrated this second time).
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 3:42am
Look, six odd numbers! How inefficient!
[pulls three points from Str, Dex, and Con to top off the other three]
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 8:55am
Still wondering what affects wisdom: I have the highest score so far though I am sure there are people far wiser than me around here.
Also, I'm the least coherent and logical person in the world so :confused: ?..
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 10:30am
Strength... Yes, dex... uhuh, Con... (I am a healthy person), Int... Can't explain that :hmm: , Wis... heh, that much? and Charisma... Ok, I'm not that charismatic, but I wanted to be a Paladin! :sosad:
Moahahahaa, I'm the only one at 18 str. This means that I either overdid the test (but I am quite muscular... :rolleyes: ) or that I am the strongest member who has done the test so far. :evil:
Now me eats you all, and picks teeth wit' you soords!
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 10:40am
Wow...I'm Joe Average.
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 11:53am
Str: 12 (+1)
Dex: 15 (+2)
Con: 12 (+1)
Int: 16 (+3)
Wis: 15 (+2)
Cha: 14 (+2)
Feats: Alertness, Dodge, Expertise, Power Attack
Not too shabby I guess. Quite smart, make wise choices, quite agile, trained alot of martial arts and not with an all too shabby look ;)
Master of Nuhn
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 12:32pm
Str 10: Should be a 9, methinks.
Dex 09: I'm abit clumsy. My aim is quite good though. 9 is quite okay. Perhaps an 8 fits me better.
Con 13: I'm easily hurt, but almost never ill.
Int 14: Could be 13. I can learn, but sometimes have troubles with following orders.
Wis 15: Quite okay. I usually know what's going on in people and sense teir intentions.
Cha 14: I'm wellspoken(in Dutch at least), kind and care for my looks.
I'd rather see points below 13, though. I'm more an avarage person.
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 12:53pm
I can agree with them
Feats: Alertness, Ambidexterity, Dodge, Expertise, Powerattack, Run.
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 1:04pm
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 3:46pm
@Vyndin Source: It's all in the Player's Handbook, for the Strength stat. You probably know how much you can lift, so you can check what STR stat value belongs there.
Edit: I think it's recollection, willpower, accute senses, streetsmarts, probably deductive reasoning, perhaps logic/theory and academic retention.
All people who have taken 6 or 1 should redo the test. It specifically says that 6 (the highest value) is for world class champions. By analogy, 1 would be for world's greatest failures ;) Therefore, we're somewhere in between 2 and 5, probably 3 or 4. It's bad they don't have any safe average option.
[ March 30, 2004, 16:03: Message edited by: chevalier ]
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 5:02pm
I totally agree with the calculation. In fact, these are the EXACT same stats I would have given myself.
Tue, 30th Mar '04, 8:30pm
Special Feats: Alertness, Ambidexterity, Blindfight, Endurance, Run
people person-i eat people
Wed, 31st Mar '04, 12:58pm
i agree with the strength and consitution, because i sadly break easily and can not break much (to put it simply) dexterity i sort of agree maybe not 18 more like 16, but then again i have freaked out a lot of my friends with my ultra fast reflexes and my swift, nimbleness, they say that i have like a built in reflex, that if they flash just one hand in my face i cant but help grab it, or block it ( a weird defense mechanism) and it is really hard to control it as well!!!
im relatively smart (unfortunately i get called a nerd as some time) and i totally agree on charisma all the way, sadly not many people take a liking to my personality, and i havnt had a g/f in many many years... :( wisdom i would not say im not that wise, i tend to make some very silly irrational decisions that i always end up regreting, but i gues i have some wisdom, (maybe in bout 14, not 15.)
its a good quiz though, and i believe i have answered all the questions as truthfully as humanly possible. :)
Wed, 31st Mar '04, 2:10pm
Wow, I could be good... well... wizard/cleric/druid who casts only 1st level spells... yeah... or maybe just commoner.
Thu, 1st Apr '04, 7:38pm
Gee, hasnt anyone thought that all the stats up to now are way exaggerated?
18 is max that is humanly possible. Einstein had 18 int. There are people here who got 17int on the test. Does that mean they'd understand even the most complicated mathematical equasions/whatever?
I truly doubt it.
Same goes for physical stats. Lots of us are hanging around computer a lot. That surely had absolutely no positive affect on our physical stats. And yet we see high strenght&dex&con. The test is for a common guy. If we went and calculated an average physical score just in our topic here, i bet it'd be at least 13-14. The average human is 10. And we're nerds. Doesnt that seem a strange? :rolleyes:
I got str:12 dex:16 con:10 int:13 wis:12 cha:9
The only stat that i know that is near the truth is charisma. I'd debate this further, but i doubt anyone is interested in myself discussing my results. Instead think on what i wrote above, about all the stats being too high.
Thu, 1st Apr '04, 8:34pm
Hmm, sounds about right, aside from the str. With the human best at 18, I think this is a bit too high. I do spend a lot of time in the gym though, so 16 might make more sense.
Fri, 2nd Apr '04, 11:39am
Gothmog, good points. I am prone to agree.
First, nerds with high STR & CON. OK, workout is an option, but still. However, STR can be measured objectively by the maximum load you can carry... unless it goes to Strongback feat or something similar.
Second, average age being some 15-16, there's quite an astonishing number of quite astonishing WIS scores.
Well, but we don't have many stats here that would be blatantly overestimated. Improbable but possible, that's what they are.
Another thing is that in a developed society CON is going to be +2 for healthy diet, vaccinations, easy access to sports facilities, more potential to overcome innate conditions and the like. People in cities are also more dexterous per average than they would be in a quasi-mediaeval world - compulsory PE at schools, easy access to facilities and the like. INT is more difficult than that. IQ is relative to the group, which means it can't be addressed as an absolute measure. The average (IQ 100) might have improved... or deteriorated. However, in so far as schooling can increase one's actual intelligence and schooling is compulsory for all, the average INT might be slightly better. There's also a greater opportunity to spot and take proper care of potentially very intelligent kids. WIS and CHA can't be summed up easily the same way. They're too abstract, I think. Little can be done to train them, even if more than in Middle Ages.
Sun, 4th Apr '04, 12:21am
+2 to CON in developed countries?
I dont agree with that. True, general health is vastly better. But these we owe to medicine not our own innate resiliance to hardship. If we get sick, we get medicine to cure us. Our own immunity sistem is getting weaker and weaker and our dependence on chemicals greater. Healthy diet. I belive common folk didnt eat McDonald's fast food back then ;)
As for sports facilities... we still get way less physical exercise than general folk in Faerun. AFAIK at least.
i dont think there's much difference here. If anything i think people now are slightly less agile. Kids then didnt sit in front of computers&konsoles. They didnt eat greasy food and grow fat as much as now. Rather they ran around on the streets all day, looking for trouble. At least this is how i imagine typical D&D world.
I really question what INT really is. It estimates how much out of ordinary your way of thinking is. If you see links where other people dont. Sometimes abstract/weird minds get awsome scores for simply thinking otherwise than the rest of people. After all those who made the tests are still humans. No doubt a D&D commoner brought here and given an IQ test would do miserably. It might not have to do as much with his INT score as with his ignorance of this world. I really dont know. It might be better, though with all the schooling. Perhaps school is good for something
I dont think this ever changes. People are always the same anyway.
No idea :heh:
Sun, 4th Apr '04, 2:37am
Hmm... here's (http://www.co.jyu.fi/~np/rpg/abilities.html) another stats test I found....it's not as good as Chev's, but it's not so bad either.
Sun, 4th Apr '04, 1:03pm
Well, yeah... that's me, though I would put a 9 or 10 in Strength and an 8 or 7 in Dex.
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 2:09am
Reviving this thread in hope someone might know the link to a test we haven't done yet... Anyone?
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 12:32pm
Remember this is just for fun!
Posting your results, especially when they (for some reason :rolleyes: ) turn out to be really good, reeks of bragging.
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 12:54pm
Strength: 14 (Cant lift weigths over my head, but can carry em around the football feild)
Dexterity: 10 (About right)
Constitution: 16 (Im still to be outdrunk, can stay sober with half a bottle of vodka and unknown pegs of whisky in me)
Intelligence: 15 (Anyone who knows me would agree, could actually be 16)
Wisdom: 12 (Oh yeah, telling people they were being stupid sure was not the wisest thing to do)
Charisma: 13 (I can get away with a lot of things, other guys get slapped for ;)
More test? Chev you need to sleep.
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 8:31pm
Looks relatively accurate. I am very dextrous, being of a tall and thin build. My hand-eye coordination is very good, wich is logical since I study art and my hands are my most important instruments. My constitution isnt that high I think. Charisma is without showing off about correct I think. Most people instantly like me, 25% instantly hates me. Wisdom is average, wich would be about right I believe.
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 8:51pm
Feats: Alertness, Ambidexterity, Endurance, Run
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 10:37pm
Okay, here are mine:
Strength 12 +1
Dexterity 15 +2
Constitution 12 +1
Intelligence 19 +4
Wisdom 18 +4
Charisma 13 +1
Feats - Alertness, Ambidexterity
Strength: Disregard this for me. I don't know if this is correct. I am not very strong, so I guess this is quite close. (I left it to be 100 pounds, because I only know kilogram.)
Dexterity: I'm quite good with my hands
Constitution: I don't know what to say to this. i guess it is okay.
Intelligence: As IQ I entered the result of the IQ from the hospital (I am hyperactive. And something else. Nothing serious.) I've been told that I am intelligent (I don't like to boast), but I would say that the +4 is too much. The thing about IQ tests, including the approved ones, is that they are all different. They all have a different marking sheme, and a different IQ for Einstein. In one IQ test Einstein might have 190, in another just 145.
Wisdom: Same as above. The +4 is probably too much. But I DO remember more than other people do. I have the memory of an elephant. Mostly for small details.
Charisma: I'm shy...
Feats: Alertness - Comes along with the Hyperactivity, and the other disorder. That makes it difficult in school sometimes - It is often described as hearing everything like someone with two hearing devices (everything has the same volume. Normally the brain tones down the things that you regard as unimportant, in order to focus).
Ambidexterity - Not totally. I can do a lot of things with both hands. Some better, some worse. Some things I can only do really good with my right hand, others only with my left hand. I am working on improving both.
P.S.: Please remember that I am not a native english speaker, and might have misunderstood some of the questions in that test.
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 11:27pm
Jazhara - IQ test result is calculated very simply:
(mental age according to test)/(actual physical age)*100%
The problem lies in what the mental age is, and that is what has to be defined prior to the test. If all tests were made in accordance to a single calculation, Einstein would have scored identically in both tests (assuming questions from either were interspersed).
The more common method today is to count in which percentile figure of the society your intelligence test puts you in.
I've come across many "stats" or "ability scores" tests which put up an IQ test to calculate INT. Not wanting to boast, but typically I've got 17/18, or 19/20 (in 3E) tests.
a 2E test which I would agree with said:
STR:7 (I suck at weight lifting)
INT:17 (it was a test that put up academic degrees as a 'measure')
Another test, which went with IQ test:
And a 3E test:
(Alertness, Combat Casting)
Strangely, in 3E I would be assumed to be a powergamer.
If I had to decide for myself, I would say:
INT: 18 (IQ 168, >98%)
WIS: 12 (maybe I'm smart, but I tend to be foolish)
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 12:02am
Wow, as usual the members of SP have ability scores which would make any 10+ level D&D green with envy.
OK that people who find interest in RPG's may have slightly above intelligence than average but seeing the numbers here is ridicoulous.
Those tests are designed to stroke the ego of people, nothing more.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 2:33am
I agree with you here, joacquin.
I'd just like to add one thing: how is it that incremental stat increase is not associated with relative stat values? E.g. if you're able to lift 30 lbs., you get STR:7, and if you're able to lift 60 lbs., you get STR:8, and so on. It's one point difference and there's no difference in penalty to damage, and either of these would be qualified as 'weak,' even though the stronger of them is Herculean compared to the other.
Master of Nuhn
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 2:57am
Imagine what the difference must be between 12 and 18!
It's weird to see that there are more people with stats above average (10) then below.
Maybe my intelligence modifier is too low to have the following statement correct:
We geeks tend to be smarter then the average. We have some knowledge of computers, we are multi-linguistic (sp?), blabla.
But geeks tend to spend too much time in front of their computer-monitor. Why doesn't this result in some below-average constitution modifiers? We really need that 14 Str to lift our mouse from one side of the mat to the other! And my 14 Cha really helped me convincing you that I really have a +2 modifier on on wisdom checks! "Bluff, bluff, bluff the stupid SPers"
I think that I could take away 3 points from all my stats.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 9:33am
Seem about correct except for Intel and cha
Xei Win Toh
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 12:38pm
Took it again, with comments this time:
STR: Seems about right. Can lift, but not exceptionally much. And I doubt my punches do much damage.
DEX: I can kick higher than most in my class, coordination and balance is decent. Would be higher if I could get rid of my overweight.
CON: I could take a few hits, and have a decent pain resistance. I get sick kinda easily though.
INT: Always been a brainy one. Doesn't seem exaggeratedly high.
WIS: I guess I have decent willpower, but other wisdom-y things is not so good.
CHA: Ugly as sin (IMHO :shake: ) and no self-confidence whatsoever. It's too high.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 1:18pm
Hmm, first tinme doing this for me...
I wrote some comments, and scrapped them. Sounded too much like total self-flattery... as it is, I can't really say anything about them one way or another.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 3:22pm
OK that people who find interest in RPG's may have slightly above intelligence than average but seeing the numbers here is ridicoulous.That's not necessarily right. The fact that the average stats is 10 doesn't mean that everyone has INT 10. The average stat for a species is the mean of all stats in the species, so theoretically 10 INT is the sum of all humans' INT scores divided by the number of all humans. There clearly are significant differences between individual humans up to the point of some being handicapped and some other being gifted. The IQ/10 = INT fomula is unreliable, but comparing the probability of a certain roll in D&D character creation with the probability of a human having such an IQ in realife is not unreasonable. Of course, the demographics of D&D societies will differ from pure dice chance, but how accurate can we get on this one? No matter how you look at it, a person with IQ in the range of 170 is bound to have a high INT stat, whether by the IQ/10 formula (17), or by intelligence percentile compared to dice chance (17/18).
I agree that the stats tend to seem awfully high, though. This is mostly due to the fact that the one on khopesh.com relies almost totally on your own perception. It seems SPers have a high opinion of themselves. :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure some people took 6'es (world champion, ekhm... yeah). :D
I suppose much of our problem is due to the overblown stats of BG2 NPCs.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 4:12pm
Hehe I got
Con 17 (dont get sick)
reasonably good rogue stats though.
I do however belive the strenght to be a little low.
Probably because of the weight lifting thing.
Not sure how many pouns i lift. We use the metric system here in norway , so I suspect it should be around 10 or 12.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 8:03pm
I had my g/f do this for me so that I wouldn't cheat and she came up with:
I'm a god.
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 8:12pm
How about having someone who thoroughly dislikes you to do it for you instead? :p
If you still gwet those stats, I'll start the Cult of Arahar :p
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 10:10pm
Strength - 8
Dexterity - 15
Constitution - 9
Intelligence - 14
Wisdom - 13
Charisma - 16
Alertness, Combat Casting, Run
Strength - Totally agree. I am not physically strong.
Dexterity - Right on the money.
Constitution - I think I would've put it at 10 or 11 had I been assigning the stats myself. I get sick pretty easily, but pain means very little to me.
Intelligence - Yep.
Wisdom - Sounds about right.
Charisma - Damn right.
Alertness - You bet your life.
Combat Casting - I think that's pretty accurate.
Run - You cannot out-sprint me. I suck at distance running, though, so I'm not sure if I would've given myself this feat or not.
Assessment: Un-Given Feats:
I don't think there are any there that were not assigned to me that I think should have been.
Assessment: Overall: Wow. Amazingly accurate.
Good find, chevalier!
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 10:45pm
Strength - 12
Dexterity - 9
Constitution - 10
Intelligence - 13
Wisdom - 10
Charisma - 10
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 11:04pm
Can I be a townsman? :D
I couldn't click on help, didn't know what some of the attributes meant and was too lazy to look those up. I guess the score's are quite appropriate, though; considering 15+ are outstanding scores already.
EDIT: Forgot Ambidexterity and Great Fortitude! Yeah, fit me quite well, too.
Tue, 4th Jan '05, 3:30am
If the average for a species' ability score is 10, then you can be pretty sure that a vast majority has a score of, say, 8-12.
For example, the mean of peoples' IQ (I will say for people from the US so as to not raise debates over whether people in Massachusetts are smarter than those in Somalia) is 100. The standard deviation of IQ is 15. What this means is that around 68% of the population has an IQ from 85 to 115. 95% of the population has an IQ from 70 to 130. Somwhere around 99.5% of the population has an IQ from 55 to 145.
Now I am not saying that IQ is proportionate to Intelligence, but if, say, 200 is the highest IQ ever recorded and SPers rate their IQ to be:
(10 * Int + Wis)/2
(i.e. average of Int. and Wis times 10)
Then I estimate we would probably get an average IQ of, maybe around 125.
That is statisically significant.
Note: the mean and standard deviation of IQ might not be exactly what I posted, but I am confident that it is in that area. You can make me look stupid by giving a link otherwise, though.
I like to think that hard work pays off more than a high Int score anyway. I would rather be a dedicated, hard-working person with 9 Int than a lazy 16 Int windbag.
Tue, 4th Jan '05, 5:21am
They say mine are:
Actually, I understood that Intelligence would translate to a bell curve. In that case, mine would be 17. The numbers would be higher if I had developed them. I'm wondering if Tourette Syndrome is messing with that, and if years of drinking too much has lowered some of them. The last point was good for Great Fortitude...
Tue, 4th Jan '05, 11:11pm
I agree with Faerus, the test is too relative, I don't like it. I'd say the my DEX should be higher, and I doubt the rest of my stats are 12. I might have been too modest when doing this test.
Tue, 4th Jan '05, 11:17pm
I had my g/f do this for me so that I wouldn't cheat and she came up with:
I'm a god.Ask your ex next time. :D
For example, the mean of peoples' IQ (I will say for people from the US so as to not raise debates over whether people in Massachusetts are smarter than those in Somalia) is 100. The standard deviation of IQ is 15. What this means is that around 68% of the population has an IQ from 85 to 115. 95% of the population has an IQ from 70 to 130. Somwhere around 99.5% of the population has an IQ from 55 to 145.That is more or less correct, but it still doesn't exclude the possibility of a higher concentration of high INT scores in a given group as relates to the rest of the society. We can judge the probability to be quite low, but low probability doesn't make falsehood yet, so all those high INT scores don't have to be heavily overblown. Some of them likely are, but we can't just say "pretty much everyone has 8-12, so you can't have a 16".
Now I am not saying that IQ is proportionate to Intelligence, but if, say, 200 is the highest IQ ever recorded and SPers rate their IQ to be:
(10 * Int + Wis)/2
(i.e. average of Int. and Wis times 10)
Then I estimate we would probably get an average IQ of, maybe around 125.Average IQ of 125 might be true for SPers, not like I bother estimating that. And I don't think WIS and IQ are related in such a direct way.
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 12:05am
(10*Int + Wis)/2 = ?
Example: Int - 13, Wis - 12
(10*13+12)/2 = (130+12)/2 = (142)/2 = 71
or it should be something like this:
10*(Int+Wis)/2 = (10/2)*(Int+Wis) = 5*(Int+Wis)
5*(13+12) = 5*25 = 125
Correct me if I'm wrong :)
But I don't think that Wisdom and IQ are related(at least not in such a direct way)
[ January 05, 2005, 00:33: Message edited by: Jathszu Khatharua ]
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 12:06am
Between Arahar and myself, we have perfect 18's across the board! I'm the ying to his yang. :xx:
Of course, with 2 zeros, I'm technically dead.
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 1:04am
Stop bragging Splunge, you with a 3 in dex? Dont make me laugh! And that 2 in charisma is just so wrong, you are nowhere near charismatic enough to reach up to a 2! :p ;)
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 1:58am
Actually, it was a 3 in Con. But OK, so I lied.
Con - 0
Cha - 0
Now I'm really dead. Of course, that would explain alot. :shake:
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 2:15am
Nah, 0 Con is reserved for the bubble boy and such. Give yourself a 1.
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 3:16am
I can accept that someone has a 16 in Int (or whatever is the equivalent) - be it chevalier, Taluntain, the newest member, Padeen... but to say that somewhere around even 10% of all people who post on SP have such a high score is a long way to go.
Someone probably has 16 Intelligence here. Maybe even 17 or 18. There's just a really good chance it's not you.
125 IQ as an average SP member's score is really, high as well - considering that somewhere around 10-20% of most people would have that score or higher (given a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15).
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 4:17am
But wouldn't our common hobby demand a bit more than the average person in the way of grey matter? A lot of people that listen in on me talking game stuff wonder what the hell I'm talking about...
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 4:51am
And a lot of people I'm listening to talk about things I don't have a clue about. My friend studies biology, another one Japanese. Don't have a clue when they brag about their recently acquired knowledge. Does that make me dumb? Don't think so... as they have no idea about my studies either.
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 1:57pm
ST - 12 +1
DEX - 12 +1
CON - 11
INT - 17 +3
WIS - 15 +2
CHR - 12 +1
Alertness, Combat Casting, Great Fortitude, Run
Yes I have a high Inteligence, but I'm certainly not "World Class" for anything.
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 3:55pm
But wouldn't our common hobby demand a bit more than the average person in the way of grey matter? A lot of people that listen in on me talking game stuff wonder what the hell I'm talking about... I think Gnarf was just kidding from the way the second sentence was worded. If our "common hobby" was rocket science, or brain surgery, or theoretical physics, or accounting ( :D ), then I would agree that much-higher-than-average intelligence is a prerequisite. But CRPG's? Or games in general? - I think not, unless it takes a high IQ to turn on a computer. (Not that I am suggesting that gamers are below average either.)
*flame suit on* :p
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 4:22pm
I agree about the use of "Demand"
However I would say that Sci-fi/Fantasy geeks who got into rpg games due to their prefered reading material (sounds vaguely familiar for some reason) are likely to be of above average inteligence. The genre justs seems to attract 'em.
Thu, 6th Jan '05, 2:35am
They're also the people to read lots. And I mean lots. Thus likely to have some above average wisdom, although it's still not like book knowledge makes wisdom. Not directly at least. It surely gives a lot of insight, however, which is an important part of wisdom.
Reading books when everyone else is playing football and deflorating classmates surely doesn't increase your STR or CON, though. :D
Thu, 6th Jan '05, 3:06am
Feats: Alertness, Combat Casting, Run.
Thu, 6th Jan '05, 6:39am
Splunge, I was referring to RPG's in general. Especially the pen and paper version that spawned all these wonderful games that we play on our computer (like the old gold box games of the 80's).
Thu, 6th Jan '05, 6:58am
Hey, books are HEAVY - trips to the library have to be good for the physical stats :D
Thu, 6th Jan '05, 1:21pm
I just realized, if this were KOTOR, this would make my Computer Use 16!
Fri, 7th Jan '05, 2:16am
LOL, Good point Arabwel, Maybe I could weasel an extra point of strength too...
Sun, 9th Jan '05, 7:18am
with ENDURANCE and POWER ATTACK
hrm, no wonder i keep on playing a Jedi Guardian. In real life, I've got the perfect stats for a Jedi Consular. Sucks :rolleyes:
Sun, 9th Jan '05, 7:50am
Bahir the Red
Sun, 9th Jan '05, 9:04am
One thing that is so idiotic about these things is that they have "below average" and "above average" but never "average"! I mean, shouldnt "average" be the most average answer?
16 (stronger than most in my age)
15 (pretty agile)
13 (should be higher, I can endure much, but I have a weakness for catching colds)
15 (I would say 25, but whatever)
12 (I dunno, dont have a nerd appearance)
Sun, 9th Jan '05, 9:48am
Feats - Ambidexterity, Dodge
I don't think thats test works properly, because i'm only 14yrs old, so, technically, I have no ECL
Tue, 11th Jan '05, 2:16pm
One thing that is so idiotic about these things is that they have "below average" and "above average" but never "average"! I mean, shouldnt "average" be the most average answer?Yeah. I hate tests where you have to rate someone or something and there's no average answer.
Son of Bhaal
Tue, 11th Jan '05, 2:52pm
OK, I gave this a go, but Im not entirely sure its all true...
...its all lies I tell you! LIES!!!
Warrior of the World
Tue, 11th Jan '05, 3:09pm
Whee, I got:
With Great Fortitude and Expertise feats.
Tue, 11th Jan '05, 4:06pm
...its all lies I tell you! LIES!!!Oh well, they base their calculation on your rating, so it's probably like 0 for all 1's and 20 for all 6's and an appropriate score for anything in the middle. It's a matter of how you rate yourself.
Tue, 11th Jan '05, 11:06pm
These are mine:
Feats: Alertness, Expertise, Great Fortitude, Improved Unarmed Strike, Power Attack
I whacked everything on perfect and trial and errored IQ and Lifting capacity, turns out the max for each is 21.
Wed, 19th Jan '05, 8:08pm
works for me!