Wed, 14th Jul '04, 5:32am
I hope this topic hasn't already been posted. I was wondering what kind of mean, irrational, or just plain silly things you have done to get revenge on someone for something they have done to you?
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Wed, 14th Jul '04, 5:32am
I hope this topic hasn't already been posted. I was wondering what kind of mean, irrational, or just plain silly things you have done to get revenge on someone for something they have done to you?
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 12:38pm
I once threw a pan filled with pasta to a guy that was irritating me. I didn't mean to hit him but since I can aim badly I did hit his leg.
We talked it out a hour later when we boyh wher cool again.
Bahir the Red
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 12:53pm
Me and my friend(mostly my friend) were working togheter at the "learn how to make food" class in school(I wouldnt have wanted to be with someone else, and you will know why when I tell you)
Now, my friend had a nasty habbit of spitting and in some way destroying the other groups meals, both in order to make our food look better (we werent exactly gourmet cooks) and because it was fun.
One day, every group had to prepare a special meal for everyone to eat, and we were assigned with the salad. Here is the recepie:
Dressing: water, spit, snore, tabasco, sticky green fluid and other nasty components
We also made a normal salad in a separate bowl in case the teacher would ask us to taste.
the whole class ate of the salad, exept a few who knew what we were up to
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 1:15pm
Once in junior high there was this annoying loudmouthed, really tall, tragic kid who took my cap and ran around thinking it was superfunny until he threw it away a bit, there was no problem for me to retrieve my cap.
For some reason this seriously pissed me off and during the next break I see the kid kneeling in front of his locker and I took a few running steps and then kneed the kid in the head so he smashed into the steel locker and then down on the floor. I was for a moment afraid that I had killed him but he was mostly fine.
I was a rather messed up teenager.
Bahir the Red
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 2:22pm
That reminds me, once I tricked my friend that I had pissed on his bike (dunno why I didnt tell him that I hadnt later). I was so convincing that he got realy upset and first took my cap and threw it in some mud, and then he wanted to fight me. Instead (not wanting to fight him, since we were friends) I took his jacket and gave it to some kid who ran away with it.
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 2:42pm
Can't remember... Haven't been irrational in a while, but I guess I would start by taking his/her heart out, slicing it to thin pieces, and then frying it a la cârte. Yammy.
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 3:08pm
On my last schoolday i took a dump in my school principal's deskdrawer. Couldn't leave school without leaving my good friend a nice present. :D
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 3:08pm
Wirhe you sick ****. Anyway not that I make a habit of it but I remember in a bar once I was getting a drink and this guy said something to me, I can't remember what it was but it pissed me off at the time, I waited till he went to the bathroom followed him in grabbed his arm intending to twist it around then bash his head off the nearest hard surface but ended up braking his arm instead woops. I was very drunk at the time, I was not myself.
Xei Win Toh
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 3:39pm
I can't be bothered with schemes, so beating them up, and drinking their blood would seem fine to me. :rolleyes: :evil:
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 4:06pm
First of all, let me state in a loud and clear voice the one and only obvious truth that you all have deep in your hearts even if you don't know that it's there: revenge is wrong :D :lol:
OK, now on to business.
Running my sword through my late school headmaster's gut occured in my dreams. I woke up so relaxed the following day...
Well, not only his. Various people have played this role in my dreams. Sometimes the sword is blunt (oh joy), sometimes it's sharp and I'm thrusting my foot in them to free the blade.
Sometimes I'm thinking about getting ekhm... some of my friends pay a visit to the culprit.
The most evil ideas, however, are non-physical. I typically know enough things to make hell of the life of someone who made a dent in my plans :evil: Don't think it's blackmail. Blackmail is low. With me, the ransom option is simply removed :shake: :lol: And what I know doesn't always need to be shared.
In practice, I don't exact vengeance. However, sometimes I have to retaliate... and some of those ideas come handy.
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 4:34pm
- Pushing a friend off the side of a wooden ship in a kid's playground. Several meters high, but he only got hurt, not injured.
Motive: Don't remember. It's irrelevant anyhow, I still regret this though the lesson served well.
- Arranging for one acquaintance to attack a friend with a blunt weapon. Luckily even the blunt weapon didn't help him as this friend is particularly gifted in martial arts / street fighting in general.
Motive: Some fight with the friend before. Notice he was a friend, the other was an acquaintance. Again a thing I regret severely, but learned my lesson from it.
- Throwing sharp pliers used in a chemistry class towards a classmates head, with the intention to kill. Would've hit him from close up but I couldn't catch him. Missed his eyes by 2 cm, took a chunk off the wall, and was stopped by classmates who understood then I wasn't kidding.
Motive: He had severely insulted my parents. A crime punishable by whatever the victim deems necessary, in my case injury or death, no difference. I do not regret it. It served to teach the people that some things I (or people in general) take quite seriously. Even if I'm glad I didn't get to kill him, in principle I still think I was attempting to do the right thing.
In all of those cases I was less than 14 years old. And those 3 were the worst things by far I've ever done in revenge. Aside from one other more personal matter that I still regret today, though the person involved was hardly harmed it was a most unwise thing to do on my part. Even if these give a very violent picture said out loud alone like this with nothing to compare on, that would be quite far from the truth. I work on the side of upkeeping law afterall.
I still view some things just that black & white though. If someone came to me now, when I'm a grownup, and genuinely insulted someone important to me. Then I would retaliate immediately. It's only darwinism afterall. If someone is so stupid to knowingly envoke such wrath in a person just to get a reaction, then they should pay the price. I don't insult other people unless they do it first, and even then there's a limit to how far I'll go. That's the least I expect of others as well.
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 8:51pm
Heheh, this isn't serious but it pissed the kid off so bad and everyone laughed at him. But this kid that a lot of people hated started making fun of me one day in class because it was hat day, I had a Georgia Tech hat on and he had a UGA hat on, and the two schools are rivals and UGA had just killed GT in a previous game. I got so pissed that as soon as the teacher went out of the room I picked a whole rotten banana out of the trash and threw it at him as hard as I could. I am usualy a really good thrower and was aiming at the wall he was leaning against, just to scare him. It him right in the middle of his neck and rotten banana got all over his hat and shirt and face. From that moment on everyone figured out he couldn't back up his words as he ran out of the room screaming. I only got detention because the teach hated him too, but his hat was ruined. :D :evil:
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 9:38pm
lol! Man, do I not want to piss any of you off... :p
I don't get really violent when I extract revenge, though. But there was this one time where there was a guy at school who was realy really annoying. And one time, after school, I was kneeing down, putting stuff from my locker in my bag. He came up behind me and pulled my hair and walked away, laughing with his friend. I was really mad (and it really hurt too). And as I was walking home, I happened to notice he was walking just ahead of me. I got next to him, and as he turned to look, I rammed him as hard as I could. And being winter, he fell head first in the snow, in front of everyone. It was beautiful. :D
Wed, 14th Jul '04, 11:36pm
I hit someone over the head with a math book and slammed his head into a metal locker in sixth grade... he got a concussion from it, my mother tells me, and he was out of school for a few weeks. I sort of regret it, but the guy was and is scum, so it's more of a vague feeling that that wasn't the best way to deal with him than a feeling of sorrow that I hurt him.
Thu, 15th Jul '04, 1:11am
This topic isn't at all what I thought it was when I read the forum listing ;) .
Let's see if I can think of some really nasty things, but I'm usually too good-natured to get revenge.
-Back in high school, some jerk made a couple cruel insults at me right in front of this girl that I was interested in so I threw him down the hall and into a brick wall. I never got caught, but it did impress the girl :D .
-One kid was basically bugging me the whole way through middle and high school, but I finally got a chance to humiliate him. He basically had this attitude that "I'm the greatest guy in the world" sort of thing and I proved him wrong at our graduation :cool: .
-I stole some jerk's girlfriend once. He wouldn't come out of his house for a week.
Thu, 15th Jul '04, 9:44am
Don't know if it was for revenge since I wasn't exactly wronged, but anyway...
Last year of high school. Waiting in the lunch line. One of the 'thinks they're hard men' club pushes in the line, right in front of me. He's about 3 inches shorter than I am and weighs about 90 pounds. He's part of the 'hard man club' because he is friends with quite a few big guys, but they weren't around, however at this moment I wouldn't have cared.
Simply grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and threw him out of the line. He regains his balance says "Wot?" and walks up to me and tries to throw me out of the line also. I resist for about 3 seconds then realise something. Next big tug he tries I move towards him and smash my forehead into his face. I broke his nose. Got blood on my uniform too.
When punishment time came I got a warning, he got a detention (witnesses are handy things) which was also the 10th detention for him that month. At my school 10 detentions in one month earned you a 'gating' which is a more severe kind of punishment (you have to go to school on the weekend and clean up basically anything the janitor tells you to).
Later he and his friends approached me but I had caught wind of this earlier and had prepared my friends also who hid nearby. They noticed I had about twice as many people with me. I challenged the same guy to a one on one but he backed down. As you can guess when the rest of the school heard about him backing down his friends 'disowned' him. I think I ruined this guy's social life.
Thu, 15th Jul '04, 3:47pm
School fights? :D I would hold one guy upside down by his ankles :shake: :lol:
Well, and if from vivid and livid imagination we move to practice, here's some contribution.
I play Warcraft 2 online on battle.net. Normally one can't, but there's been a special re-edition based on Starcraft engine and called Warcraft II Battle.net Edition.
I've grown powerful, despite the fact I'm a relative newcomer and perhaps not in the very strict top division of ability. I run a renowned clan's website and I've made the clan's blacklist popular. It's a powerful tool now. Hackers, disconnecters (must be visibly losing and not known to be a decent guy) and cheaters get there on a single screenshot or replay. The rule is strict: no one gets there because people tell stories. Not even the clan leader can simply ask me to put someone there. There will never be any sort of automated submission and things are done the good old way - people have to get screenshots and write an old-fashioned e-mail with attachments to the address that everyone knows :evil: Abusers like screenshot forgers (one so far) end up alongside the worst scum.
However, occasionally, people end up on the black list for exceptionally lame behaviour.
There was that guy. I was a noob. Not an RTS noob, but a noob to Warcraft 2 on battle.net. I was a strong player, but didn't know the tricks of the veterans. I had good stats (wins to losses) and a renowned clan tag to my nick. He challenged me 1v1 and I owned him despite he was playing Orcs (90% people play orcs as they're much more powerful) and I humans (I couldn't play Orcs and use their special features well yet). Later, he called me a noob and stats player when talking to my brother, who promptly reminded him of how beautifully he got owned. So he took some bogus newbie nick and entered my four player free for all ladder rated game. What did he do? Ignored everyone else, placed scouts all the way from him to me, flooded me with overwhelming panzer force of ogres (playing like that you can win battles, but can't really defend yourself, let alone win the game - and it works only once on a moderately intelligent opponent) and destroyed my base with lots of trouble (I lost on an AI technicality). But he so crippled himself that he lost the game to noobs. He didn't care - that nick wasn't his official, normally rated nick. He started to brag about his "victory" and call me a noob.
What did chev do? I went to his own clan site, and their own guestbook where he posted that rubbish and shared the *whole* story. I ended saying that until midnight that day I was waiting for apology through e-mail and in that guestbook and at midnight adding him to the black list with two special editorials courtesy of chev and his brother (the witness). He reacted with further verbal abuse, compromising himself totally in the eyes of his clan (they apologised to me for him, told him to apologise and hoped he would).
Actually, he took such a blow that I didn't actually bother to add him properly to the blacklist until the redesign which is still pending. Oh, but I will :evil:
Dark Haired Beauty
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 5:08am
On my floor in the dorm last year this girl kept stealing my quarters and taking my clothes out of the dryer while they were still wet and putting hers in the dryer. I got fed up and went in my room climbed up on my desk removed a ceiling tile and grabbed some of that nasty itchy fiberglass insulation out of the ceiling and put it in the dryer with her clothes.
There goes my sweet girl image :angel:
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 5:16am
Woohoo! Nice one Dark-hair! Very creative. Did she ever figure out why she was all itchy for the next week?
Dark Haired Beauty
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 5:23am
Hard to say Dragonfly. With over 100 girls on one floor I never knew which one she was so I never really knew what happened. :hmm:
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 7:12am
So, what happened to the dryer after that? I get the feeling the filter isn't supposed to handle insulation.
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 7:48am
Now normaly, I am not a violent person. But when vulgar words are used in reference to my family, I get slightly, well, pissed.
So basically: School bus. He make horrible insults. I hold back urges. He gets laughs, goes farther. I still hold back urges. He gets more laughs, and goes too far. I release urges. With elbow. To head. To side of bus. Multiple times. He still has a lisp.
As an a adult(kinda) I regret my actions because I sank to his level. I won't do it again.
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 10:05am
Playground, my neighbour with whom we always played soccer was bugging me so hard that I punched him in the eye. He was screaming that he had gone blind for the next two hours, really freaked me out. The problem is that when I really really get mad, I go berserk. I don't think go completely mental and hit everything I see.
It only happened twice when I was below 14 but still it freaked me out and from that moment on I learned some severe self control and never gotten into a fight again. But if for some reason with a robbery or I get hit hard for no reason, I can and will summon up that rage again and some of my family know not to come close when that happens.
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 10:11am
Rage is gooooood :)
The beserker in all of us needs to be let out of the cage every once in awhile. It's strange how idiots are the ones who always seem to have the right key... :hmm:
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 12:06pm
Yes well, this is how you see who's carries the survivor genes of mankind. :)
Lots of idiots out there, but those idiots are the ones who invoke these racial cleaning instincts in us worthy individuals!
Seriously though, rage is good. No matter what anyone or anything says, ever man has to have a point where they will steel themselves and fight back. In the modern world, many push other people past that point because they believe they're safe. The "explosive rage" is in my opinion the only right type of rage. Your morals and ethics are on too light grounds if you allow yourself to get gradually more violent from every little insult made at you. It's a healthy sign that your mind will hold you back not giving in an inch to the very last moment, and when that moment comes, then the primal urges make sure someone gets a lesson they won't soon forget.
Family is a holy thing indeed. Insulting one's family is to me like insulting a dangerous man holding a gun. You know he's going to shoot you, but if you're so stupid as to want to experience that first-hand, then go away and make it happen.
Anyway, a bit of Italian attitude isn't too bad. Let off some steams when you feel like it, and love everyone anew when you have. Just don't make a psychosis out of it.
Sorry for the offtopicish thing. I just felt I had to point out something I thought here.
Bahir the Red
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 12:53pm
Scaring people is fun. Once in the school computer room I wanted a computer, but some kid refused to give it away. I said to him, in a very mafia-like way (kinda like how the mafia-dude in Simpsons speak)
You *will* move from this computer, or else I *will* hurt you.
The kid got so scared, I think he nearly pissed his pants (and he was like 14-15 years old, and I was 15-16)
PS. Im a 180cm buff guy, which may have helped with the scaring
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 2:41pm
The beserker in all of us needs to be let out of the cage every once in awhile. That just makes me wonder how many actually enjoy of the feeling. I think I'm developing a taste for it... :eek:
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 2:51pm
And enjoy it ye must! The only problem is this little annoying thing called a conscience, that's nothing but a program set into one's mind by people who seek to abuse you without the beast coming forward! Uhh, that would be parents. Maybe not, then.
Anyway. Things such as bullying, scaring, stealing someone's girlfriend... I hope justice will rain on you people some day. ;)
Bahir the Red
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 3:43pm
There is no such thing as justice, and:
Mercy is a shield used by the weak, steel yourslef before the disease spreads
Do you *know* what Im talking about?
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 4:10pm
I hear ya Bahir.
I'm usually pretty stabile (note the difference between "stabile" and "calm").
Only once did the beast come loose, for something quite silly I can't actually remember anymore; I nearly strangled someone with my bare hands then.
It's rather easy to get under my skin though, as there are a few things that really make my blood boil and I can get slap-happy quite quickly if ignored when I *politely request* that the annoyance is ceased.
However I don't usually cause real damage; well not intentionally anyway.
EDIT: typos & post-posting reviewed 2nd Edition
Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 4:31pm
This whole primal rage reaction is definitely a trait with a gene on the "Y" chromosome. If you notice, all of those people having violent responses are men (and I reacted similarly in my high school days). Women simply don't respond that way. If you notice dark haired beauty's response was simply to make the girl itchy when she wore those clothes. She didn't lay a beat-down on her ass. Well, I guess it was men that attacked the wolly mammoths, and defended the caves from saber-toothed tigers, so they have to have some more primal urges.
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 4:55pm
You know Aldeth, I know some women who can hit it quite hard when provoked (not my friends by the way). And the nails on those are not to be trifled with ;)
Bahir the Red
Fri, 16th Jul '04, 7:09pm
I usualy take out my rage on my siblings (who are younger than me :D )
Like when I came home today, and found out they had left the butter out with the lid open. I didnt beat any of them (although I wanted to) but I yelled as hell
Now that I think about about it, I did hit my sister on the arm (that f-ing moron deserved it, shes so damn cocky and annoying)
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 12:45am
You're a 180 cm big guy and you hit a little girl?
Bahir the Red
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 9:36am
Yes. Talking is not an option since she repeats all words I say in a very silly voice. And she is a teenager (13 years) so she isnt "little".
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 10:23am
Back in the day (well, 2 years ago) I got really drunk, and went to a park where I was hitting on some girl. (I don't know who. Come to think of it maybe it was a statue or even a slide. I was pretty hammered.) A guy, who was quite high, came up to me and asked if I had a smoke. I said, "yeah, but **** off if you think I'm giving it to you!" Then I lit one up right in front of him.
About 5 minutes later, I was sitting on a bench and the guy comes running up from behind me and hits me, running at full speed, in the back of the head with his shoe.
Needless to say, I never saw him at school again, and it wasn't because he didn't like the curriculum. I'm sure I put him in the hospital.
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 3:09pm
Yes. Talking is not an option since she repeats all words I say in a very silly voice. And she is a teenager (13 years) so she isnt "little". For some reason I would rather have a little sister like that than beat her down. ;)
Besides, 13 IS "little." Very, very, little.
Illusions And Dreams
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 4:13pm
First Time poster LONG time reader.
Well about a Year ago, (I was 18) I found out that my Sister's boyfriend raped her.. I was beyond rage, as i care very much about my family members , So natural you can assume I took revenge. Looking back now I can see what i did was very wrong and exetremly dangerous, but he was never punished by Police or anyone else, so i took matters into my own hands. At that time me and him worked in a stairmaking factory, (Summer job) so one night the two of us were working over time. I grabed the nail gun , and stapled both his hands to a think sheet of oak wood, and told him if he ever ratted me out or did anything like what he did again that I would kill him. And i left him there stapled to the wall overnight. He quit work the next day and moved to the other side of town, I guess I overdid it but at that time I was blinded by rage. Like i said Im not proud of what I did and i have serious regrets sometimes, but hell what would you have done if any of you were in my situation.
Well bye for now.
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 5:48pm
A matter of opinion, but what you did was just right. Assuming the crime in question was exactly that simple (boyfriend raped? that does sound rather dubious)?
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 6:17pm
I agree with Foradasthar, rape is IMO a crime deserving death and/or mutilation, and if the authorities won't/can't act on it, it falls to the victim or his/her relatives to take action.
Illusions And Dreams
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 6:26pm
Well I dont Know the exact details, but apparently my sister (btw she is 16) didn't want to make love or give it up however you want to call it, and he just kinda forced it on her) so i guess that falls into the rape category.
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 7:26pm
The guy whose behaviour I really hate, Foradasthar. If you are willing to kill a man for something they said then you are a nastier piece of **** than most of the people in jail. See they had a reason, even if it was because the guy shoved them it's still a better reason than yours.
Sat, 17th Jul '04, 8:27pm
Really? Nice to know. I hope you and I never meet then, because from your strong reaction I get the feeling you'd be pushing me over the edge quite quickly.
Really now, I never insult a person unless insulted first. That's what I said before and it's true. If I have insulted someone and they tell me that, I will apologize.
Let's put it this way. Just as a person is a psychological-physiological-social (don't know the abbrevation of that in English) being, there are 3 forms of violence as well. Physical, which is beating. Psychological, which is attacking another's persona (personal insults, abuse, threats, etc). And sociological, which is basically any of the other two used against one's social circle either directly or otherwise.
Let's say someone's parents are dead, and someone insults these parents knowingly while the child is present. That deed is no different from a hit straight in the face. The marks aren't as visible, but surely as effective. Only thing is, because an offense like that can't be proven in court without exceptional circumstances, the insulted one (or others willing to help him) will have to exact the punishment.
The reason for many of those who are in jail are egoistical. They desire something for themselves, and use criminal means to get them if they otherwise cannot. They don't care about other people, that is to say. In my case however, it's a question of princible to protect and preserve the honour of my loved ones. In addition to that, it's also a question of the insulting party being too stupid to back off even when they know they're doing the wrong thing, and that payment is forthcoming should they not stop.
Put short. If I never hit people, never insult people, always apologize when I know I've done something wrong accidentally, then how can I be guilty when all I do is retaliate to another person's first attack?
I realise many don't see the logic here. I realise many actually want a world where they can offend other people and walk away with it. I see people abuse social and psychological violence all around me each day. Even I take my share of it. But I believe in my own inner understanding of what is truly right. That is why I always say I'm chaotic good. Whatever others say, whatever law states, I know I'm doing the right thing. I may not always succeed in it, but I learn from my mistakes, and I keep trying.
The first offending party is always the guilty one. Always. With only one exception. When they have no other choice. Attacking someone with any of the 3 means mentioned above when not provoked, and given the option to let it go, does not fall in to the cathegory of "no choice".
Sometimes the world really is black & white.
Edit: I'd like to point out it's not like I switch to slaughtermode the second someone says something like that. I will use social means first. But if it doesn't work, then I won't waste another second. I won't kill someone out straight in such a situation anyway, but I will hit them for sure.
Still, no criminal record up to date. Like I said, I actually work on the side of law.
[ July 17, 2004, 20:40: Message edited by: Foradasthar ]
Sun, 18th Jul '04, 12:26am
I agree with some point of yours Foradastar but you carry it way to far.
I may not always succeed in it, but I learn from my mistakes, and I keep trying.
What if such a mistake is killing an innocent person, will you still keep trying or in your point of view it gets better, you will be killed by the victims relatives. Would you like that?
Sun, 18th Jul '04, 9:35am
How would I kill an innocent if I only retaliated to a crime they committed against me? I mean seriously, do you actually believe it's ok to insult matters holy to another person deliberately when you already know he's going to react to it? I can't believe I'm still talking about the same thing, is this what the morals are like this day? And like I said in the edit, you'd have to carry it pretty far to make me actually kill someone.
The Japanese, the Italians, some of the black Americans, all carry a strong respect to familial ties. And a strong reaction when someone attempts to insult or break them. There's nothing that miraculous in that some people HAVE princibles where they're needed.
Back when I was a kid and some of my drunken classmates had gone and pissed on people's graves in graveyard, you wouldn't believe the negative reaction it got from people. Were they innocent? Would you like someone doing his biological needs on the grave of your beloved mother? Sure they might not deserve to be killed for it (especially since there was nobody there to remind them of the severity of that crime and offer them a chance to go back), but a little beating in any of the 3 means mentioned before? Heck yeah.
And if I did indeed kill someone (I already said how it would be an extreme case, and anyway I can't and won't control myself when it goes too personal), and their family killed me, then things would be good. They did their duty afterall.
You see, the way I think is that no one person can ever hope to carry the wits or wisdom to understand how the entire world of humans should work. As thus, we each have to pick our own little view of it, and treat that as the right one. Although always open for new viewpoints of course.
My view is this: Person 'A' attacks person 'B'. Person 'B' retaliates by killing person 'A'. Person 'A's family attacks person 'B' and kills person 'C' by accident in the process. Now both person 'B's and person 'C's families retaliate as well, bringing in persons 'D' 'E' and 'F'. The list goes on, growing exponentially. And in the end, either the massacre stops, or the human race is wiped out. Whichever the case, the filth would be purged from the face of the planet. While I might not wish for that because of the extreme amount of innocents involved, I don't see that as such a bad alternative either.
Bear in mind, that up from when I was 7 years old, I've been bullied, betrayed, and left mostly alone aside from a small group of friends. I experienced the cruelty and stupidity of mankind first-hand in school, in high-school, in army, and in my first work after that as well (and I know that what I went through is NOTHING compared to what many others have experienced). And I know quite well I'm not the one to blame, for I NEVER attacked nor provoked anyone first (well never is an inaccurrate word since there are always accidents but still). All I did, was offer an easy target: I didn't bully others, I didn't retaliate when I was bullied, I didn't attempt to belong to the mass and start kissing someone's butt to "belong", and I had a temper that made me get mad fast. I was treated that way simply because people knew they *could* do that. I was around 20 years old when I started making it damn obvious that if someone wanted to hurt me, then I would damn well hurt them back twice as bad. You have no idea how much my life changed for the better. Advancement in work, respect from people, everything started going more smoothly. I'm still a very calm sissy-looking type as I don't find the need to act as if I was anything more, though.
I think the way I think because 90% or more of the people I've encountered are egoistical idiots (most don't take an active role in attacking another, but they still let it happen without doing anything about it which makes them the same flock), who need a lesson that law or other people (well it's the majority afterall) are never going to give them. I think the way I think because I'm not concerned about myself, but for my friends and my family (I don't believe in altruism, but this is the way I feel *better*). I like to see the purpose of my life is to sacrifice myself for them if that is needed.. that includes upkeeping their honour when they're not there to defend themselves. And because it is simply the right thing to do, no matter which way I look at it.
Now before Tal or anyone interrupts, I'll say I've no more need to comment on this particular subject. I'm disappointed enough as it is and it won't be a pretty sight if we go on with this useless bickering on how criminals are innocents.
@ Apeman: Understood your question wrong. Answer: By "accident" or "not always succeeding" I mean that sometimes I unintentionally have insulted another. But like I said I have always apologized. And in my case, I do make sure what I heard was right before I carry on. And offer a chance to retreat, like I've said.
Even though there was a strong emotional charge to when I wrote that text under a misunderstanding, I'll let it stay there just so you understand fully how I view this and how seriously I take it. And apologies to anyone who got insulted with my reference to the people here.
Sun, 18th Jul '04, 9:45am
I'm also a defensive person by nature. I will not go out an insult anyone or harm anyone unless they have done the same to myself or someone undeserving.
However, if the act is illegal (eg. rape) I will convince the victim to go to the police and get it sorted out properly. Sometimes all they need is someone to help them through it and be there with them when the police are interviewing them.
Mon, 19th Jul '04, 4:45am
Well, to be honest, the only thing I've ever really done to get revenge on someone who's wronged me is steal somthing trivial from them. I'm actually what I guess you'd call something of a pacifist and will usually avoid a fight however possible.
Although, I have in the past cheated on a girlfriend after she's cheated on me, and 'stolen' a mate's girlfriend after he started slamming my good name.
But the best revenge I have ever achieved (I feel) is the revenge I got on the mother of my eldest son, and am still getting on her, by not giving up as she wants, and hanging in there for my son.
I also have the opportunity to get revenge on the mother of my youngest son now that she has decided to follow the route taken by my eldest's mother. Can anyone say home-made entertainment?
Bahir the Red
Mon, 19th Jul '04, 9:06am
Hate it when parents divorce and fight, it traumatises the child. Like me. I used to be a social person, but now I sit infront of the computer alot and even among friend I dont speek much. And I would concider myself a mild case.
Wed, 18th Aug '04, 11:15pm
I am a pretty violent dude, it's biological, all my brothers is it as well, so i have done some not-too-good stuff.
Like I, like the leftish dude I am, got tired of a nazi in my class. I was reading a geography book, or more precicely, the chapter of world starvation, and it was a picture of a starving village. He saw the book, yells some racist comments to the whole class, and since I am of Jewish heritage and some of my friends in the class were not born in Sweden and some were even dark-coloured, I got pissed.
I took my pen, yes, a PEN, and jumped up on the desk I was reading behind. Now, you see, the guy was about 175-185cm long and weighted about 80-90 kilo at the time, it was three years ago, so I was scared as hell as I was, and still am, 165-170 and weighted 45-50 kilo PLUS I was a pretty bullied kid all my life until then. I kicked him on his cheek all that I could so he flew into the desk behind him. He was not only strong, but he was quick, so I jumped down next to him and waited until he stood up. When he jumped at me I just swung the pen once to hold him of and oops, a 2 cm deep and 10cm long injury in his arm and he was pretty stunned by the blood that was flowing. I then tripped him, took a chair and beated him with it about 5-6 times untill some in the class and our teacher hold me off.
He was sent to the hospital for two days and I wasn't even spoken to by the police as he provoked me and some of the teachers, like the one I had at the time, don't like nazis very much.
Needless to say, people who have heard of the story doesn't try to bully me around anymore. :p
I am sorry if the details are somewhat vauge, but as I said above, the ones from my family gets adredalin thrills and can't control ourselves for a short while if we gets mad. Just ask "RooK, the maker of life and death", on the boards. He is my little brother and is alike me on that thing.
The bottom line is: I don't regret it, not one moment.
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 4:37am
Hate it when parents divorce and fight, it traumatises the child. Like me. I used to be a social person, but now I sit infront of the computer alot and even among friend I dont speek much. And I would concider myself a mild case. That's why I'm loathe to do it, but I've just had enough crap from the mother of my eldest so I'm a little tempted to strike first this time.
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 5:23am
I'm like many of the people on here, a very defensive person. I don''t fight, and I get intimidated when people fight around me. If someone starts something with me, I back off, often when I'm even in the right. There was one occasion when someone took things a little too far.
He started off insulting me personally, which, by the way, has absolutely no effect on me whatsoever. Realising this, he moved onto more inventive insults about my family, my friends and my social circle. This got me a little red behind the ears, but I still sat (Inhumanly patient I hope you appreciate) and remained calm.
Then he started being what Caleb called a "Nazi." I am a very open minded person, and I get very frustrated with people like that. When he started picking on gays, blacks, women, HIV victims etc. etc. I started getting very angry (Not a sight even I see very often)
Finally, he took the final bite by breaking my personal boundry (Something I have a very peculiar respect for) and speaking about my ex whom I had only recently split from, and was still hurting very much.
Finally flipping, (Yes, you knew it was coming) I grabbed him by the head and slammed it into the vertical poles they put on busses to help you stand. About five or six times, actually. When his eyes looked a little glazed, I purposefully broke his nose and then drew my knee into his delicate areas so hard I'm quite sure he'll never have children.
I regretted it for a while, but his injuries weren't serious, and he was only off school for about a month, so my conscience was eased somewhat. After that, my friends looked at me with a strange kind of respect I'd never seen before, and I had to be very careful not to let the newfound "Beast within" go to my head.
By the way, for the record, I'm still a pacifist.....
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 9:24am
Well you know what they say, don't fight fire with fire. But sometimes making a big enough fire to burn the oxygen out from the first one works just as well. :)
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 2:38pm
I write a nasty fate to them in my novel :D
Seriouslyy, I've been known to hit a guy with a frying pan after insulting me... then again, I was 13 at the time. I've also thrown books at people, hit people with books, and made horrible nasty insulting comments back.
Nowadays, i mostly seethe and just quote Edwin.... :p
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 2:43pm
Let me guess, Arabwel... they all end in something like "*FOOF* Fireball!"
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 3:45pm
Nah, not really... since it's a non-fantasy one, let's just say that the evil insane madwomman who has the world in her grasp just smiles evilly at the mention of them... :p
In the sequel, am planning for gory flashbacks... someone WILl get their parts removed with a spoon :p
Or not, since the first one went way off the original so-called-plot.
Thu, 19th Aug '04, 3:59pm
Mine seems kind of tame compared to this stuff hehe.
I was in grade 4 and this guy kicked my bag (im a small guy) so i waited till recess and snuck back into the classroom when nobody was around. i then proceeded to methodically tear off all the covers of his books and notebooks and threw them into the trash can. then i peed all over it. hehe. kinda childish, but hey, i was a child ;)
On a more serious note, recently, some fcuker kissed my gf when she was in a less than sober mode (her fault too i know) so im currently in martial arts training. when i get good enough im going to kick the guy's ass. i can hold a grudge as long as the drow can. that little biatch (he is a bit smaller than me, but considerably stronger) better watch out when i come for him. he better hope i get good too, because if i don't screw hand-to-hand combat, im gonna whack him with a hammer. i Sh*t you not haha
i dont mean this to sound like a judgement man, but im just really curious as i am in a similar situation. how do you justify cheating on someone after they cheated on you first? ill be the first to admit that it's tempting, but why bother taking them back anyway after they cheated on you if that's all you were going to do anyway? just curious..
btw on a side note: i agree with foradasther, if the guy started the sh*t and you didn't do anything to provoke him, he deserves what he gets. myself, i probably wouldn't kill him though (i have a severe fear of being pounded in the ass in jail or anywhere else for that matter heh). but i could kill given the right reason/motivation i think. hell, i think everyone could. hehe this looks like its on the way to the alley.
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Mon, 30th Aug '04, 3:01am
@Enagonios: Martial arts training is good for you anyway, but taking it just to try and kick the ass of one particular guy is not worth it. How much training would you need if you can't beat him now? One year? Two? You'll probably have had a couple of new girlfriends by then.
Call me harsh and cruel, but if your girlfriend can't keep her charms about herself when drunk, you actually owe the guy a favour for showing it to you. If she didn't resist, pity, but the man hadn't promised anything to you and she is the one to blame, not he.
Mon, 30th Aug '04, 3:08am
Ah, yes, I agree with Chevalier. If she can't control herself, that's her fault. If she can't control herself once, she's not going to be able to control herself in the future. Plus, I've done martial arts for years but I still know if I get into an un-referred unarmed street-fight with someone, I'm very likely to get hurt somewhere along the way(unless my opponent is completely useless). I'd move on and enjoy my life if I was you.
Fri, 1st Jun '12, 4:36am
Kind of an interesting thread - thought I would dig it up from the grave :p
Fri, 1st Jun '12, 10:19am
do you just spend your time trawling through old threads?
Fri, 1st Jun '12, 4:58pm
Lol not really Shoshino - I just thought it might be fun to put a few old faces back up for a bit. History of thought can be thought provoking. Actually I'm hoping I didn't say anything really embarrassing in there because to tell you the truth I haven't re-read through the whole thing myself yet.
Call me reckless but I just like to keep things interesting :p. I guess I'll actually go and read the whole thing again now.
Fri, 1st Jun '12, 10:40pm
Well, I haven't read the thread, just from Urithrand's post above. I like to think I have good self control, people think of us door security and think of big thugs in bomber jackest beating the $h!t out of who ever we want. But we've evolved from that image, infact we are disciplined professionals. Last weekend a guy in his 40's tried to rape a young girl in one of the disabled toilets in the club, a random person raised the alarm and 4 of us moved in to grip him, we simply restrained him until we could turn him over to police unharmed....
how many of you could have done that? We wanted to kill him, and we could have easily done it.
Sat, 2nd Jun '12, 5:36pm
That's good Shoshino, self control is a very respectable quality although I am sure it is also an important aspect of your profession.
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 7:57am
my latest escapade involved payback on an idiot who carved me up in a dangerous manner on the M2 when I had my daughter in the car with me.
By coincidence, he ended up in the inside lane, with me in the fast lane, he realised & tried to undertake me, whic make me even more pissed of at him, so I kept my car just below level with his for over 5 miles, blockin all his attempts at undertaking me again, of which there were a few, for just over 5 miles, all the while, my daughter & I were both visibly laughing at his frustration....until I finally looked over & saw the steam coming outta his ears, at which point, I couldn't help myself & started laughing hysterically, with tears actually tripping me. I eventually rose above it & drove on, but not b4 majorly p*ssing him off. Maybe he'll think twice about carving another driver so dangerously just because it was 2 girls in the car!!! :-) Btw, I am normally a very restrained person who lets most carvings on the road drift right over my head!
Master of Nuhn
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 2:59pm
Ooh! Making men cry behind the wheel. You're good!
I'm not familiar with "carving" though. What does it mean to "carve another driver"? Is that the same as cutting someone off/in/up, forcing her/him to abruptly hit the breaks to avoid collision?
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 6:30pm
Sorry, but that was reckless behavior on your part, and with your daughter in the vehicle no less. It never, ever pays to engage in driving competitions with angry or reckless people or to try to enforce your idea of the laws of the road. If they are so reckless as to warrant that, you should simply let them pass, get a vehicle description and plate number, and call police.
The stakes are just too high. At best you piss them off and go on your way. So what? At worst, you (and maybe your daughter) die, because vehicles colliding or rolling over or running off the road at high speeds almost never ends well. :nono:
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 7:33pm
Gaear, this IS a thread about self-admitted bad decisions (anger management issues notwithstanding), no need to go all preachy here.
On an unrelated note: Troy's Owner, could you please post your driving schedule for the next ... year or so.... :p
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 8:03pm
Sorry, my bad. ;)
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 9:21pm
I'm sorry but did you even bother reading the whole post or were you simply too busy feeling superior & pontificating? :rolleyes:
First of all, where do you get off judging other people's parenting skills? I am, if anything actually, an extremely over protective mother & would NEVER EVER put either of my children's safety in jeopardy. :mad:
I did also make it abundantly clear that I am not the type of driver who would normally partake in this kind of behaviour & I neither invited this idiot's wreckless manner of driving & putting both our safety in jeopardy, nor did I breach any road safety rules or guidelines by doing what I did...in actual fact, my actions not only succeeded in slowing down this particular idiot's driving antics for a short while, but I also managed to prevent him from putting other driver in danger...other drivers who just might not have been as experienced, confidant or reserved as I am, especially given that I am actually an experienced rally driver, having partaken of the sport since my early 20's, with a completely clean licence for over 25 years, or who, worse still, might have had young children in their vehicle.
Just to be very clear, my daughter is not a child, she's almost 19 & is actually a very good driver herself who also knows that I am not the type of peron who normally either partakes nor condones engaging in the antics of idiot drivers but let me think...alternative courses of action??
I would have been quite within my rights, given his actions, to have reported his antics to the police & yeah, he might have had his wrist slapped, something I sure he would have laughed off, but at least my course of action will most definitely stick in his memory & hopefully, I have pointed out to him that this kind of blatant disregard for the safety & well-being of other road users is not acceptable in any way!
It was quite simply a harmless bit of fun that had a deeper point which was quite literally driven home! lol :grin:
OR, you could just take your own advice & when something annoys you, you could quite simply rise above it & move on or then again, just mind your own business & refrain from passing judgement on people you know absolutely nothing about, especially when it come to something as serious as questioning their parenting ethics!! :mad:
So, wise up, get a life of your own, get off your soap box or at least save your pathetic rant for someone who actually cares about your unwelcome self-righteous opinions to yourself!! :doh:
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thanks, :-) & yes, carving does mean exactly what you described, however I do have to confess that this course of action is one that I would not normally resort to.
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lol, you're quite safe, I'm not normally that reactionary but when someone else puts your child in danger by almost causing you to write off your car for no apparent safety oriented reason& then flicks you the finger when you toot your horn, everyone is bound to react eventually!!
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 10:43pm
Whoa now. Before this degenerates further and leads into rule-breaking, let's all calm down and try to be civilized. :)
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 10:44pm
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 11:00pm
Who'd've thunk that a thread about bad behavior would produce an example of bad behavior? :D :p
Wed, 5th Sep '12, 11:41pm
Whoa now. Before this degenerates further and leads into rule-breaking, let's all calm down and try to be civilized. :)
I am a very reserved & mild mannered person, it normally takes an awful lot to provoke any kind of reaction from me & I only posted on this for a bit of fun, which was what I thought this thread was meant to be...but I am first & foremost a very loving & admittedly over-protective parent & do not take an accusation of putting my child's life in danger lightly when I clearly did not, especially when my "judge" & jury" is someone who knows absolutely nothing about me or my family.
If you read some of the earlier posts on this thread, my post was mild in comparison, maybe if I hadn't been attacked about the most important part of my life, I would not have replied so vehemently.
Yes, I could have replied a little differently, but then maybe the other member could have a little more respect for the whole ethos of chatrooms...friendly exchange of views & memories. I do appreciate that this person did accept their over-reaction when it was politely pointed out by another member, but it is a pity that the need for such an attack was not tempered with the aforementioned respect...something I always have & always will abide by in forums, I just ask for the same in return.
Thu, 6th Sep '12, 1:05am
Certainly. And there was no rebuke in my last post, just a friendly warning to everyone to not let things get out of hand here. :)
Thu, 6th Sep '12, 5:00am
Wow, I step away from the BOM for a few days and things get interesting. Heya Troy's Owner, you seem a little new around here. Actually we are a pretty friendly community. You might have gotten a wrong impression of the people around here. Gaear and BT are very kind and respectable people, as I am sure you are as well. I'm sure if you get to know everybody around here you will see we are mostly pretty good people :).