Saerileth NPC Mod
Version: 13
Review first posted on: 5/20/06
Review updated:
Mod download location: http://www.gilalion.com/saerilethmod.htm
Download size: 26 MB

Overview:
Saerileth is a 15-year-old human paladin of Tyr. She hails from Mount Celestia in the Outer Planes. She is young, romanceable (for good-aligned humans, elves, and half-elves), and beautiful. She is complete through ToB, and she has quests and a flirt/chatpack. She brings with her three new areas for SoA, two SoA quests, and a ToB quest. Saerileth is a young woman of deep religious conviction and certainty. She has extensive voicing, banters, and interjections. And Saerileth will love you like no other. We hope you will play her mod repeatedly.


First Thoughts:
There isn’t really too much to say here. This is a WEIDU mod so the install was painless. It’s a bit longer than a standard NPC mod but that’s to be expected when loading new zones. It’s hardly excessive in any case. Her Readme is pretty standard fare. It contains a few game play tips related to the mod as well as a version and fix history. Overall, pretty standard and about what I’d expect.

There is one major item worth noting in her Readme file. It’s clear that Saerileth is not a BG2 paladin. She is definitely based upon the Forgotten Realms PnP standard. For those unfamiliar with the PnP rules, paladins are more than simply ‘slightly better than the average person’ good. They strive to be good personified. Even a single evil act, knowingly committed, is enough to jeopardize a paladin’s status. Personally, I prefer those rules for paladins as it makes them into the rare and heroic figures they are meant to be. And it leaves me interested to see how they will pull that off given the BG2 storyline.


Storyline and Characterization
One of the first things that struck me in this area is that, despite her strong personality, I never had the feeling that she was taking over the spotlight. While there are a large number of character building banters, these are balanced against a number that put the spotlight back on the PC. This is an interesting, and potentially risky tactic as, if done poorly, the character can easily come across as judgmental and domineering. Fortunately, it’s handled very well and the nature of her questions reveals a great deal about who she is without stealing the show.

Another thing about this character that stands out immediately is that she is truly exceptional in her own right. Aside from her other-planar birth, she is a Chosen of Tyr. In the D&D universe, this is the equivalent of being the favored of a god and commonly results in ascension to Deva or Avatar status for those that survive. Additionally, she is remarkably competent and self-confident. All of this alone would be noteworthy but she is also very young to have achieved so much. I believe this is the effect her creators were going for in setting her age at 15. Whatever the reason, it left with the impression of someone touched by fate and an appropriate companion for a child of prophecy.

As to her actual personality, she is deeply religious and is unafraid to voice and act upon her opinions. This does not mean you will find yourself being dragged along by her choices. In general, she’ll voice her opinion then live by your decision but be warned, there are exceptions to this. Some things paladins just won’t do. She is also true to her word and she will leave if you stray too far from the ‘good’ path and again, being patterned upon the PnP standard, she is nowhere near as forgiving as Keldorn. A nice added touch here is the attention to detail shown in her reaction to various items, both good and evil.

As mentioned in the introduction, she is a romancable character. For those of you used to Bioware romances, this character will be a definite change. First, her romance is definitely a ‘love at first sight’ story. Second, she does not come with loads of emotional baggage. She is confident and capable in her own right and the romance proceeds as a union of equals. This is as opposed to the BG2 standard in which the PC (despite his truly terrible situation) is forced to coddle and support his partner through their emotional dramas. Another notable difference with this mod is found in the character of her relationship with the PC. The romance is passionate without being sexual. It’s clear that the PC and Saerileth are deeply in love but the relationship is completely chaste until ToB. Even then, any sexuality is only hinted at and never overt. It’s a very well done and welcome change that only added to my enjoyment of the mod.

Given the limited space available in writing a short review, I’m really not able to do justice to her character. Of all the various NPC mods I’ve played over the years, I’ve found this character to be easily among my favorites. The attention to the small details that give her depth and make her believable is truly incredible. She is, in my opinion, a rival for Kelsey and Valen in terms of both storyline and character.


Game play and Balance
Despite her storyline and background, don’t expect to get an exceptionally overpowered NPC. She is powerful by virtue of being a cavalier but she gains no special abilities beyond that. By the same token, her gear is mostly unremarkable. She comes with an unremovable holy symbol that acts as a helm with permanent Protection from Evil. Beyond that, she has no special gear or abilities.

There are two things that are going to stand out to players here:

First, this mod introduces a third, more paladin- and good PC-friendly method of getting to Spellhold. For this reason alone, I will always install this mod. I always hated the choice between allying with the Thieves’ Guild or Bodhi. This mod adds a third option that allows you to get there through allying with the Radiant Heart. Of course, you’ll need to do something appropriately heroic before you are offered that choice but it’s not difficult to find. Simply pursue the quests you receive from them and you’ll be given the option.

Second, her quest leads you to a number of newly created zones. Combat in these new areas is nearly non-existent but they are fully populated with NPCs and contain at least one shop you should visit. The design of the zones is well-done and well-integrated. They could easily pass as a part of the unmodded game. The existence of the zones alone would have been exceptional in my opinion. The fact that they are so well done is the proverbial ‘icing on the cake.’ These zones were a very nice surprise and are yet another indication of the effort put into this mod’s creation.

I do have a minor complaint in this area. The main enemy in Saerileth’s SoA quest is WAY too hard if you get this quest early. This isn’t really a big deal on its own but you aren’t given a choice. The quest starts on its own and once the quest starts, you must beat him to complete it. Given the length of her storyline, you really should pick her up very early…which means you’ll probably be too weak to beat this guy. Fortunately, you receive some help in the form on an unkillable NPC who can beat the enemy by himself but I would have preferred to be a bit more involved.


Final Thoughts
This mod is a definite ‘must play’. From beginning to end, this mod maintains a commitment to delivering a believable and playable NPC. There are loads of small details throughout the game that left me with a clear vision of a fully-developed and in-depth character. It’s that attention to detail which sets the truly exceptional apart from the merely good.

Most mods get specific aspects correct but, so far, I’ve only played one other mod which got the complete package right. It’s for that reason that I put Saerileth at the top of the list, next to Kelsey, on my list of favorite mods.


Rating: 10/10

Thanks, very helpful review! :thumb:

Excellent review SuperNovice. :thumb:

It does sound very interesting, I should downloaded next time thru the game.

I'd like to add a little something that (along with the extra areas it added, a detraction for me) prevented me from even thinking about installing this mod. She doesn't match up to the Cavalier standards, PnP-wise. She fits neither the requirements for the Cavalier fighter kit (STR, DEX, & CON 15; INT & WIS 10), supposedly an expert at mounted combat, nor the more likely Chevalier paladin kit (STR, CON, & WIS 15), the paladins' "rich kit".

However, this was only the 'last straw'. My primary beef was with the new areas, but this:
Second, her quest leads you to a number of newly created zones. Combat in these new areas is nearly non-existent but they are fully populated with NPCs and contain at least one shop you should visit. makes me reconsider my position. (Especially seeing as stats can always be switched around via SK.)

Excellent review!

I'm getting the urge to resintall the game and play with this mod now...

I didn't like her sounds, wich I found awful annoying. So much that when installed I quickly remember her voice and uninstall her. Thats my 2 cents on this mod.

I refuse to play this mod on the grounds that it features a romance between a 20 year male (charname) and a 15 year old girl.

I refuse to play this mod on the grounds that it features a romance between a 20 year male (charname) and a 15 year old girl. Can you enlighten me a bit more here on your wievpoints Drew, 'cause I don't get that argument...

At 15, she's underage. But you don't have to romance her if you play the mod. Shake it off as a teenage crush and ignore that part of the mod.

At 15, she's underage. That's probably why, 'cause it's below 15 here.

Actually considering that BG II is a medieval setting she is not underage. She would be considered a woman not a child. A five year difference between a man and a woman is nothing.

The mod does sound interesting and I normally don't care for Paladins. Something to check out.

@ Fel:

Be warned: the "main enemy" encounter that Supernovice mentions takes place IN one of the new areas. While it's true that there is no other combat in these areas, there is one EXTREMELY tough (and frustrating) fight there.

I do recommend the mod, though. Very entertaining, and well-crafted.

Oh, it's not not wanting more fights. I just don't want another pointless battlefest like the Oasis or Small Tooth Pass. The dozen in the vanilla game are more than enough for me. :p But so long as it's actually justifiable, I'm up for any challenge you can throw at me. :evil:

Excelent review, I think I may try this next run through after I try UB.

The legal age limit here is 17, but I am sure as hell not going to have relations with someone that young.

Actually considering that BG II is a medieval setting she is not underage. Good point, but then again, you would be hard pushed to find a female Paladin in a medieval setting.

:) Quite true, Cúchulainn, but this is medieval fantasy and if we start applying modern standards to it imo we might as well stick modern games. Scrabble anyone?

I thought Charname was a kid too... I may be mistaken. Anyway I'm thinking about giving this mod a try going the goody two shoes way for a change.

Nice review, but is there no-one who is annoyed by her spoken dialogue? I found her voice so annoying that I dropped her after a few hours...

I thought Charname was a kid too... I may be mistaken. Anyway I'm thinking about giving this mod a try going the goody two shoes way for a change.You are 20 at the start of BG1.

Actually considering that BG II is a medieval setting she is not underage.Women had no rights, either, in the medieval setting. They were treated like property. FR is most certainly not a medieval setting. Never was there a period in history in which all of the weapon choices you have were actually in use. Homosexuality and promiscuity are also "acceptable" in FR. FR is actually a quasi-historical setting with "modern viewpoints on equality, sexuality, and morality. Given that, on every other level, the morality of our modern day culture is the norm in Faerun I have a hard time imagining sexual relations between 20 year olds and 15 year olds would be an exception.

Drew, you are correct in that this type of fantasy is not historically correct but I have to disagree with your conclusion. I was about to post my thoughts but realized we are getting way off topic.

So all I say is: Yes, it is fantasy and a RP Game. So RP as you like and the Mod is optional. No one has to use it.

Must say the age doesn't bother me but I was born in to a society rather different from you 'modern' folk.

Women had no rights, either, in the medieval setting. They were treated like property. FR is most certainly not a medieval setting. Never was there a period in history in which all of the weapon choices you have were actually in use. Homosexuality and promiscuity are also "acceptable" in FR. FR is actually a quasi-historical setting with "modern viewpoints on equality, sexuality, and morality. Given that, on every other level, the morality of our modern day culture is the norm in Faerun I have a hard time imagining sexual relations between 20 year olds and 15 year olds would be an exception.What about lifespans and medicine?

FR is a quasi-mediaeval setting. In a mediaeval setting, first of all, there would be no magic.

Women had no rights, either, in the medieval setting. They were treated like property.That's not exactly true.

Given that, on every other level, the morality of our modern day culture is the norm in Faerun I have a hard time imagining sexual relations between 20 year olds and 15 year olds would be an exception.Marriage is possible in some countries of the world between people of those ages and the last time I checked, Saerileth wasn't into premarital sex... not sure about marriage being there or not, though, at some point.

I refuse to play this mod on the grounds that it features a romance between a 20 year male (charname) and a 15 year old girl.I purposefully left this out of the review since I believe it's a non-issue. I'm not going to hash out the reasons for this as it would be way off-topic and probably too philosophical for most to care about anyway.

However, the romance is optional and Saerileth is clearly an adult, whatever her age. That's enough for me.

It's my hope that people will play the mod and form their own opinions, both good and bad, rather than form an opinion based off one specific (and unimportant in this case) aspect. Indeed, that is my hope for any mod I review, regardless of the rating I happen to give it.

I am currently playing a run though with the Saerileth mod installed and I just had a few comments.

Nice review, but is there no-one who is annoyed by her spoken dialogue? I found her voice so annoying that I dropped her after a few hours... This is one of my few complaints of the Saerileth mod. IMO the mod is *very* well designed and built, but her voicing stands out like a sore thumb. It's not that it's annoying, it's just loud! Sure, it's not as loud as the Yasraena mod...but it's still quite loud. Also, her voice sounds *much* older than a 15 year old girl.

It seems that every single NPC mod that has voicing I have ever tried, has had horrible voicing...save for one. Kelsey, is the epitome of mod NPC voicing. His voicing volume is in perfect tune with the other Bioware NPCs, there's no ‘popping’ sounds before and after each line he speaks…like the Kitanya mod, and his voice fits his character.

The one other compliant I have is the area where you fight Saerileth's main boss, you can't use any special abilities, no magic, and no items...save for the Wand of Spell Striking and the Wand of Lightning. My characters were fairly low level, and none of my weapons could hit him... :bang:

Other than that, the mod is perfect! :thumb:

I always get a laugh when she refuses to wear a certain item... :shake: Not even the Bioware NPC have *that* good of a continuity. :D

One possible thought though...her romance needs to be spiced up a bit. Sure, she a paladin...but I think the lines used in the NPC Flirt Packs would do Saerileth good...(remember the 'Bathe with Aerie' or the 'Bathe with Jaheira' options from the Flirt Packs? :thumb: :love: ) :rolling:

I recently gave a shot to that mod...

Ehh, frankly, I'm not too crazy about it. First I don't dig sugary sweet, holier-than-thou paladins (you guessed it... Chaotic Evil here. :evil:

Another thing I REALLY disliked is the fact that it's either Charname or Edorem who gets romanced. Kinda feels like "Oh, you don't love me? That's okay, I love someone else anyway". Major points lost here. Oh. Almost forgot that you can kiss her when you first meet her. What the f***?

The soundset... not bad, but I quickly ended up listening to Megadeth rather than her.

I nontheless painfully carried the romance through SoA into ToB... to the point where I got fed up of being a do-goody-two-shoes and zapped in a helm of opposite alignement. Pow! Back to Chaotic Evil. Then, she left with no further rhyme or reason (I couldn't help but to breathe a sigh of relief). And the ending? She is happily married and has a bunch of kids with Edorem. WOW! I didn't seen that one coming at all! :rolleyes:

So, to wrap up... this mod is very well done, and I hail it's maker... but it's just not my cup of tea. In all honesty, I am looking foward to Thorium Dragon's Valen Expansion. Valen. Now THAT'S a babe with an attitude. And who never gets on my nerves either.

Y'know, it would be interesting to see a mod similar to that one, but for evil parties... I would definitively dig a blackguard chick in my party. :love:

[ June 18, 2006, 07:10: Message edited by: Disciple of The Watch ]

Perhaps the user should try a program such as http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ to normalize the volumes of speech files. I would guess that they're typically within the 89 - 93 dB range.

I just gotta chip in my utter hate for this mod. Lots of spoilers for the mod in this post.

Not only are the creators self-indulgent jackasses banning anyone who speak ill of the mod on their own forums but the mod itself is horrible. It's a perverted fantasy of a freaky married couple and honestly; it creeps me out. The writing is atrocious, the sounds are horrible, and as some mates as Something Awful says; "it changes the game from Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn to Saerileth's Gate: Saerileth of Saerileth." The creators feel that she has to chip in at pretty much EVERY SINGLE ENCOUNTER. She almost has as many lines as the bloody main character!

Personally, I don't have much of an issue with the age thing, 15 years being the age of consent in Sweden and all that, but they deal with it HORRIBLY! The character is a walking trainwreck who blushes as every single ****ing thing.

Oh, and get this. If you have sex with the Drow in Ust Natha; she *dies* from heartbreak. The creators are so full of themselves it isn't funny anymore.

Then we got the horrible balance issues. When you finish SoA you get a wedding ring that's only useable by Saerlileth and the main character and not only do they buff her stats to make sure nobody else can use it but the ring is effectively a ring of protection +3 except you can carry it together with other magical items.

All in all; it's a horrible mod and I wouldn't reccomend it to anyone.

If you have sex with the Drow in Ust Natha; she *dies* from heartbreak.

What?!? Are you serious? LOL, I HAVE to unearth my BG2 ISOs just to try that! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

DotW: You should take a look here, unfortunately it's rather long: at gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/baldursgate2shadowsofamn/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-41439809)

Haha, I reinstalled BG2 with this PoS and made a speedrun (with the trusty console to accelerate the suffering, of course), and I banged the Drow in Ust Natha... she indeed died from heartbreak! :lol: :lol: :lol: Damn, this is PURE GOLD, a chick dying from HEARTBREAK!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. Just wow.

As I said, the mod is horrible. She also dies of heartbreak if you decide to become a God in ToB. She can die from heartbreak a few more times IIRC.

Ah yes, Saerileth. There's really no way to describe the whole extent of my hate for this particular pile of failure. There are few mods this aggravatingly horrible IMO. She's a perfect little flower, and horrifyingly written, too. And that stupid, stupid Ye Olde English. Anyone familiar with the term "Mary Sue"? It fits quite well in this case.

Oh, and another great part: at one point during the romance, a demon comes and tries to break it. Not via clever plans or dark secrets, but by TAKING AWAY ALL THE CHARISMA-ENCHANTING ITEMS ON CHARNAME. If his Charisma is under 14, that's it, it's all over immidiately. Screw love, you have to be handsome or that's it.
Yeeah, it's a great mod alright.

Haha, yes, I do remember that part. And when that happens... she goes to plan B - Edorem. What a shocker. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Think I'm gonna do a special run to try to find all the ways I can make her die of heartbreak - this is just too much fun to miss out.

Screenshots, DotW, screenshots! I demand ocular proof!

Okay, I just installed the mod. It's horrible. The voice acting sucks, the ye olde English sucks, the fact you can flirt with her and tell her you love her FROM THE MOMENT SHE JOINS sucks. The fact that she doesn't spawn at all if you're evil sucks, and makes no sense. The fact that she can only join at the first encounter and never after (not even if you kick her out) sucks, and just points to bad programming instead of "personality".

In general: a pile of Mary-Sue suck.

Her dying of heartbreak when banging the Drow would be rather easy... just need to check if I have a save that's close to this point - I haven't saved very often, if at all. :bad:

As for the rest, when I do make the heartbreak death runthrough, there's gonna be screenshots galore. that's for sure.

Will you make a public album, pretty please? :D

/me gets down on knees, folds hands, looks pleadingly at DoTW!

Hmmmmmm... no. Or maybe. Or maybe not. Not sure yet.

And get off your knees, will ya? I don't like having a man on his knees in front of me.

Now there's an image! :D

This mod doesn't sound like anything I'd want to download, to be honest. Then again, I don't like characters who are overly goody goody or overly evil. And she sounds horribly Mary Sue.

I had her in party for a whole 2 minutes before i killed her. I just couldn't take it anymore. I would love to be able to keep her until she dies from me sleeping with the drow but i just can't do it. heck, i can barely make it out of the temple district without killing her! Like others have stated, just horrendous writing.

Imagine the pain I felt when I went all the way through SoA with this little biatch. I totally lost it at the start of ToB, and zapped a helm of opposite alignment. Pow! Chaotic Evil, then some pathetic break-up dialog... and then she gets the living hell pounded out of her miserable carcass.

I rather enjoyed the mod and would recommend it. Don't listen to Disciple (he's evil).
This mod is geared toward someone of good alignment.
http://www.gilalion.com/saerilethmod.htm

as others have pointed out only use the saerileth mod if you wish to play saerileth gate: shadows of saerileth & throne of saerileth.
just DL it & look through the banter/interjections this witch has so many you aren't gonna be able to go a minute without her saying something. And WTFudge is with the appearing/disappearing olde english crap ???
speak one way or the other but not both !!!!!!!

To each his own, I suppose.

To each his own, I suppose.

Indeed. Your very own :p

Don't listen to Disciple (he's evil).

Damn, here goes my secret. :rolleyes:

Saerileth is still a POS mod. And what's with playing a good PC? Booooooooooooooooooring.

*EDIT* Okay, guys, as promised I started the heartbreak death run... and I wanted to kill myself 10 minutes into it. Hope none of you is in a hurry, this run will progress VERY slowly...

I am looking forward to your progress. :)

I rather enjoyed the mod and would recommend it. Don't listen to Disciple (he's evil).
This mod is geared toward someone of good alignment.
http://www.gilalion.com/saerilethmod.htm
Even if I were to play someone with a good alignment this mod is one of the worst choices one can make. Horrible writing and mary-sueing together with idiots making the mod(something that shines through with their creepiness in the entire mod) and some completely illogical story elements.

It doesn't help that every single person I've seen that has reccomended the mod has either been involved with it in some way or have been discovered to be a huge creephat.

It doesn't help that every single person I've seen that has reccomended the mod has either been involved with it in some way or have been discovered to be a huge creephat.

So Vhailor and i are creephats...well thank you very much. :confused::rolleyes:

I understand that the Saerileth mod is not for everyone, but i like it. IMO the mod is very well made and i have it installed again in my current game. You do not understand that some one wants to play this mod...but i do not understand the total witch hunt on the Saerileth mod.

If someone wants to try the mod then download it and give it try, and after having played the mod then a person can realy say wether they like it or not. If you do not like it then simply do not download/install it. The makers of this mod worked long and hard on this mod, so a total witch hunt on the mod is not fair IMO.

Register do not get me wrong here There are many reasons someone likes or dislikes a mod and that is fine. i did not write this to attack your own judgement...BUT i do not think it is fair that you call those people who use the Saerileth mod Creephats. It means you judge those people based on what they use in a game, you can not judge some one based on something like that.

As far as the name-calling goes, Amdis is right on this one, as our rules regarding it are quite clear.

So, the only reason I would ever consider installing the mod is because I've heard that you can side with the paladins in order to get to Spellhold. Now, my question is: does "She Who Must Not Be Named" have to be in your party for this to work? Or can you, just by virtue of having the mod installed, have that additional path opened to you?

She stands straight in front of the Radiant Heart building and will come talk to you as soon as she spots you, so better find an alternate entrance.

Erm...so is that a "Yes, she has to be in the party to use the paladin path to Spellhold" or a "No, she doesn't have to be in the party to use the paladin path to Spellhold"?

That is quiet clearly a "maybe".

If I remember correctly (it's been a very long time since I've had BG2 installed on my PC, let alone examined this mod), the path to spell hold is triggered by an interjection, so yes, she has to be in the party. That said, I've heard tell that the third path was kind of buggy.

I read somewhere that someone always used the mod to get that option, but can't recall if he had her in party or not. Um, guess someone will have to play and answer that. Go the heartbreak route if you must. ;)

It's not gonna be me, that's for sure. To make this run bearable I'd need the appropriate 'supplies', and I only have one half of the necessary supplies on hand.

I actually downloaded and the mod and played through a bit of the first chapter with her in my party (with a female PC and blissfully unaware of the little bomb I was carrying; if I'd played through it with a male PC, I would have uninstalled the mod ASAP as soon as I saw the choices for the first encounter). Even though I wasn't romancing her, she was still annoying to no end, constantly butting in with interjections everywhere. Yes, the rest of the NPCs also have various interjections, but I enjoy them because they're not commenting everytime I change my shirt or drop down the liquor store for a quick pick-me-up.

Another thing that I've noticed their mods (having tested the Tsujatha mod a bit, which I'll probably end up playing with anyways, despite the fact that I want to punch Saerileth in the face; mostly because I continue on my fruitless search for a good romance for female PCs) is that mistreating them will result in the PC made into a mean-spirited ******* or something of the sort. Apparently disliking them is some sort of sin against the gods.

The final straw for me while playing the game was the whole 'Saerileth is kidnapped by a demon, go rescue her RIGHT NOW!' quest. Most NPC quests at least give me some leeway for me to finish what I was doing before focusing on their quests, or at least there was some warning that stuff would be going down. I was really turned off that I was forced to essentially drop everything at that moment because Saerileth is just That Special!!!

If you found her painful without having romanced her, that's nothing to the pain of actually being loose in the attic enough to romance her. I wish suicide booths like in Futurama would exist every single minute I'm romancing her.

I gotta say I dispise this mod too. With all due respect, the creators haven't even ever been open to constructive critisism.

Saerileth also stands out too much and her abuse of Parenthesis gets annoying REALLY fast. Honestly, they should've just written a story, which would have likely sucked, much like the one for Tsujatha (or at least, the preview they offer for it is very blocky!)

Overall, one of the, if not THE worst mod I've ever played for BG, and that goes for in comparison to future mods.

Edit: While I was writing my reply, one of our moderators has deleted the relevant posts above (yea, I'm not happy about that), so I'm going to post them here for the record:

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SuperNovice wrote:

Register do not get me wrong here There are many reasons someone likes or dislikes a mod and that is fine. i did not write this to attack your own judgement...BUT i do not think it is fair that you call those people who use the Saerileth mod Creephats. It means you judge those people based on what they use in a game, you can not judge some one based on something like that.

I haven't been around in awhile and I have to say, I'm more than a little offended by this thread, offended enough I'm tempted to request that the entire thing be deleted.

I wrote the review for this mod and quite clearly, I happen to enjoy it. I know not everyone will but that doesn't give anyone license to start accusing me of being a "creephat" or insinuating that I didn't give the mod a fair shot. For the record, I had nothing to do with the mod and my only interaction with anyone on the board it came from was to comment that I enjoyed the mod and direct them to this review.
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martaug responded:

Yeah well if you stay around here be prepared to be offended . . . a lot.
We specialise in it.
I'm pretty sure what tal will tell you if you request it be removed because YOU are offended & it probably isn't gonna be pretty.
Have fun with the pink dragon of doom, we'll sweep up your sticky bones & ashes when he is done.
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SuperNovice responded:

Yeah well if you stay around here be prepared to be offended . . . a lot.
We specialise in it.
I'm pretty sure what tal will tell you if you request it be removed because YOU are offended & it probably isn't gonna be pretty.
Have fun with the pink dragon of doom, we'll sweep up your sticky bones & ashes when he is done.

I think I'll wait to see what Taluntain has to say about it. In any case, if I was banned for requesting that a thread be deleted that is not serving it's purpose and is only be used to insult people, I wouldn't be too broken up about it.

While I doubt that's the type of moderation that is done around here, if it is, I don't have any desire to contribute anyway. A ban wouldn't even be necessary.
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My own response:

SuperNovice, we don't delete entire threads on request from anyone. Additionally, we don't allow for deletion of entire posts (especially when those posts have been there for more than 2 years and promoted in news articles on our own site as well as others) unless there is a very good reason to do so.

In this case, your primary reason for wanting it gone appears to be resentment that people are criticising the mod (the insulting remarks have been addressed by me in this thread, so those shouldn't figure into the discussion). Now, I could understand that if you were the mod's author or affiliated with its creation in some way, but not if you are, as you claim, in no way connected. If you actually do respect people's opinions (whichever they may be), then you wouldn't be asking to delete an entire thread because you don't like what's being posted in it.

When you post a review such as this one, it is normal to expect other people's opinions on it being posted in the comments. In this case they are mostly negative, but as most of them come from long-standing members of our community, they certainly aren't some random trolls' personal vendettas but simply an expression of how regular users feel about the mod. Not cushioned much, but not invalid by default because of that either.

I feel that removing your positive review would be doing the mod more of an injustice (as it would leave fewer positive posts in this thread) than leaving it up. And now that we've both had our say in this matter (and since I don't expect anything productive arising from leaving this thread open for further discussion), I'm going to close it.