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Halasz
Thu, 13th Jul '06, 6:49pm
Has there been any word on how the cleric system will be handled for NWN2? I really like the system for Icewind Dale 2( It was the best done so far in my opinion) and the original NWN system left a lot to be desired.

So is there any info. known about how clerics will be handled?

Rotku
Fri, 14th Jul '06, 12:15pm
I assume you are talking mainly about domain spells, correct? They seem to be th e main difference between the two. As to that, I really am not sure.

What they have added to NWN2 though is a diety selection system (which, as clerics serve dieties, particularly apply to them), in which you choose, during character creation, a patron diety based upon your alignment and class. This opens up to you a different selection of domains. It stops, for example, clerics of Cyric choosing Healing and Animal as their domains.

chevalier
Sat, 15th Jul '06, 3:58pm
Wonder if they are going to make the same for paladins. I don't mean domains but some kind of reflection of the deity rules from pnp.

Rotku
Mon, 17th Jul '06, 1:53am
I believe it applies to all classes. You pick your class and your alignment, and from that you have a range of options that fits to both. For example, in FR there are only a select few dieties who support paladins (and certain alignments), so the paladins will be restricted to those. Same applies for ranger and druids who require nature deities.

Harbourboy
Mon, 17th Jul '06, 2:27am
Sounds good. I really like these sort of character tailoring options. They don't make a massive difference to the power of a character, but are great for personalising the character's individuality.

Halasz
Mon, 17th Jul '06, 8:30pm
Any word on what the deities might be?

Rotku
Tue, 18th Jul '06, 5:35am
All the Forgotten Realm dieties in the Original Campaign (except the Mulhorandi ones, I believe). But they are of course customisable for custom mods, with simple entries into the 2da files, from what I understand.

[Edit]
As much as I like to sound intellgent and seem like I've got a whole load of inside information, most of the things on the deity system can be found here.
http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=485289&forum=95

[ July 18, 2006, 06:47: Message edited by: Rotku ]

Halasz
Tue, 18th Jul '06, 7:08pm
Thanks a lot! Lets just hope high level clerics of Shar and evil wizards can use The Shadow Weave. ;)

Rotku
Wed, 19th Jul '06, 7:39am
Heh, sorry to disappoint you but no, they can't. Can't remember where I read it, but I'm pretty certain that's not going to be avalible. The community might come up with something though.

Halasz
Wed, 19th Jul '06, 6:20pm
Well......that just sux :p No point even being those things then.......Oh well I guess I'll just have to be a good cleric ;)

Another thing I'm pumped for is actual Drow gods, in IWD2 you could be a female drow cleric.....but LOLTH was not in there.

[ July 19, 2006, 19:32: Message edited by: Halasz ]

TrueBlueAussie
Thu, 20th Jul '06, 9:14am
Yeah, I found that screwy with IWD2 that Lolth was not an option for drow, so hopefully she will be apart of NWN2 if there is a drow subrace. Hopefully will also be a good drow option aswell such as Ellistrae (sp?)

Rotku
Thu, 20th Jul '06, 10:04am
Open the FRCS and look at the deity lists. Exclude the Mulhorandi deities, the Chult deities, and Uthgar EDIT: and Takhisis. Pretty much everyone else should be there. All demihuman deities from the FRCS are there except Deep Sashelas.

And no, you can't be a cleric of Ao.You're in luck :)
An yes, TrueBlueAussie, I believe that a drow subrace is been included.

Halasz
Thu, 20th Jul '06, 6:25pm
I'm looking forward to being a good drow cleric of E. or Lurue.

I just said it kinda sucks though because every game sets you up to be a good guy. Being evil every now and then is sorta nice.

Master of Nuhn
Sun, 23rd Jul '06, 4:33pm
Seems I can't play a whiney, non-winged faster-than-Chiktikka-Fastpaws Avarial with Baervan Wildwanderer as her patron. Because deity selection is restricted by race (a.o.).

Pity heh? :p
Still I'd rather be that than Drow, if you want my opinion.

Halasz
Thu, 27th Jul '06, 12:40am
well.......selection is resticted by race...but any race can choose human deities :p

Halasz
Sun, 19th Nov '06, 1:08am
I *still* don't have this game(and don't know when I'll get it). I've looked and haven't found much on domains. For those who have the game, are there any new domains?

Marceror
Sun, 19th Nov '06, 3:21am
Yeah, there are domains, but they work nothing like the domains in P&P D&D. You can pick any available domain regardless of diety (2 domains can be chosen total), and those domains will give you a perhaps a new feat a couple of extra spells (that are just added to your regular spells per day), others give no feats in lieu of a larger number of additional spells (magic domain is an example, which give a handful of wizard spells).

It's not necessarily a horrible system, but it's definitely not the system WotC put together. Meh, it works, I suppose.

Halasz
Sun, 19th Nov '06, 3:29am
Well, I know how the system works. :p :rolleyes: I've read that domains work exactly like they did in NWN. I just didn't know if there were any added domains since Neverwinter Nights 1.

In NWN1 the small number of domains left you with a small selection of deities(if you want to be accurate) :) For example if you wanted to be a cleric of Selune you could not use the moon domain?!?!?!

Marceror
Sun, 19th Nov '06, 4:22am
As I mentioned in my previous post, there is no dependancy on deity for which domain you choose. I don't recall if there are any domains in this game that weren't in NWN1, but there are roughly a dozen domains total.

There is a large number of deities to choose from, but deity selection is really just for flavor in this game, there is really no impact to gameplay.

Daie d'Malkin
Mon, 20th Nov '06, 12:57pm
... my Cleric of Selune has the Sun DOmain :D

omnigodly
Mon, 20th Nov '06, 5:12pm
well.......selection is resticted by race...but any race can choose human deities Humans don't have any specific dieties, or even specific types of names. In D&D they absorb whatever culture is found, giving their children dwarven or elven names and worshipping whatever dieties are the most useful :) .

Halasz
Mon, 20th Nov '06, 8:40pm
I think in FR that many gods are worshipped by only one race or subrace.

The Shaman
Mon, 20th Nov '06, 10:02pm
@Daie... ... ... Well, it could be that Selune hates undead, and is the deity of light, and... and....

ROFL!