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Marceror
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 2:35am
The local Best Buy expects to have it on shelves by 6:00PM (30 minutes), so I might have to make a run there before I take my son out trick or treating.

omnigodly
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 3:05am
I'll have it tomorrow morning for sure.

The Magister
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 3:49am
I live in Australia, and its been delayed untill the 9th of November! :flaming:

Marceror
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 5:47am
Best Buy let me down. Guess I'll be picking it up tomorrow, after all :( .

Taluntain
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 10:58am
The Magister, you should keep track of our news more... http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/27/2391.html

Don't have a stroke now... :shake:

Kitrax
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 1:20pm
Tal, you're such a spoilsport! :p

As for me, I'm not going to even consider it until I have a new computer than can actually run it, and once the price drops to a more reasonable level. :D :rolling:

Iraelonn
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 4:44pm
I plan on picking it up before going to work today. I'm off tomorrow and planning on logging some serious time.

Marceror
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 9:01pm
Bah, Best Buy and Fry's in my area still don't have it!! Fry's thinks they may have it in stock later today. Ah well, I guess I've waited this long. What's an extra day or two?

Trellheim
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 9:04pm
What's an extra year or two... still haven't finished the first one, so I can wait

Harbourboy
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 9:13pm
Yeah, I'm still busy with SoU and HotU. NWN2 can wait until I have built my new HarbourCray 2007 PC.

omnigodly
Wed, 1st Nov '06, 10:26pm
I just picked up the LE version of the limited edition. Came with both the CE and LG rings, a map picture book manual and dvd rom.

Marceror
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 4:50am
I ended up picking up the DVD version from Fry's. I really wanted the limited edition version, but the braniac's at Fry's apparently only ordered like 4 copies of that :mad: Biggest RPG of the year (or close, at least), and only a few copies. Oh well, glad to finally have it in some form.

Son goes to bed in about 45 minutes, then it's all about me and soon to be NWN2 addiction!!!!

Faraaz
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 5:16am
@The Magister: Mate, I feel your pain...I had it pre-ordered in EB as well...

PS: Its funny that NWN2 is out in India before its out in Australia... :D

PPS: No...its not a pirated copy, its out for real! :p

omnigodly
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 5:48am
FF12 came out yesterday, one day before NWN2. I think it distracted from NWN2 quite a bit.

Alavin
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 8:20am
Pre-ordered the LG Collectors Edition, and it was dispatched yesterday! Not long now, and conveniently timed to arrive after my last coursework deadline.

Sir Farivald
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 9:36am
My LG Edition arrived today! Amazing! It's huge. The figurine you get is an Eldricht Giant. The box is shaped like a huge mighty tome, and there's a wealth of goodies inside.

It has just installed, so I'll go give it a go!

DarkStrider
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 9:39am
Same as Alavin it despatched yesterday (01/11) and I'm just waiting for it to arrive :)

Cúchulainn
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 9:56am
Same here!

Uytuun
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 11:15am
I'm going to be old-school and just buy it in the shop. :p

Living where I live, though, the odds are that it might not be there yet tomorrow. :shake:

chevalier
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 11:30am
This may be a stupid question, but how do you guys get the game so early if the release date is 3rd Nov. in Europe? Or does UK get it earlier? Of course, I'm all the happier for you. :shake:

Sir Farivald
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 11:51am
I think people who preorder is earlier get it a bit sooner. Ordered this back in August, so I'm lucky to have received it a day early.

My impressions so far...

Good:

The graphics are lovely.

The animations (including combat animations) aren't as bad as I thought they looked from the videos.

The music is fantastic, as always!

The character creation is a joy to use, the wealth of options will make it hard for me not to be starting a new game every day just to test out different characters. I'll stick with Farivald, my plain old Human Paladin, for the first play-through.

The voice acting is great. Usually I'm not a fan of American accents in medieval style games, but I accept that the Forgotten Realms are in fact, not earth, so accents needn't be regional or time-scaled.

You can fully control all party members, so it feels a lot more like BG than NWN.

Storyline is good so far, and I'm only about an hour through.

Bows have strings! ¬_¬

Bad:

There's an irritating slashy effect to weapon swings. I find it intrusive, hopefully it can be modded out.

The level of blood per hit is a little extreme.


That's all I can think of for now. No doubt I'll be playing all day! Thank God I booked this week off, eh? :D

Alavin
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 12:22pm
how do you guys get the game so early if the release date is 3rd Nov. in Europe? Play.com has a bit of a reputation for delivering games a little earlier than their release date. :D

EDIT: Literally 30 seconds after making this post, NWN2 arrived! W00t!

Marceror
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 3:45pm
The level of blood per hit is a little extreme.While I only actually got around 10 minutes of actual gameplay in last night, most of which was spent messing with camera views and getting comfortable with the controls, so I haven't seen any combat yet, I do remember seeing an option to control the level of violence. I think the settings are something like "none, partial," and "full." So if the gore is too much, you might try to lower the violence setting and see what that does for you.

DarkStrider
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 3:52pm
how do you guys get the game so early if the release date is 3rd NovLike the rest I pre-oredered from play.com :grin:

chevalier
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 3:59pm
Hehe. Congrats. :D I think the level of blood is part of the Fallout legacy from BIS times. :shake:

What about the Hardware? What kind of machines do you run it on and in what resolutions? I have a relatively weak computer, Celeron 2.4 GHz with 512 MB RAM and an FX5900XT... I can play NWN1 on max settings in 1024*768 but will I be able to play NWN2 in such a resolution with at least an acceptable quality-to-speed ratio or should I upgrade ASAP?

omnigodly
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 6:52pm
I'm running on an AMD 3800+ (dual core), 256MB ATI 800XL, 1GB RAM,and I'm running it at medium-high with a bearable amount of choppiness (very little), like when I first got NWN1.

Unfortunately I think NWN1 is better. Controlling the character AI is kind've stupid sometimes, because they don't explain what each option is clearly enough and some of the NPC's get set to not do anything unless you command them to.

Other than that, I'm kind've bored of the story-line and a few things.
#1 - do not force party members on me.
#2 - do not force me to leave a zone before I'm done looting.

On to the good. The game is completely worth the money. It's entertaining, the feeling of it is truly D&D. It's fun, you don't have to play for 10 hours to get to level 5 (I'm level 5 after like 2-3 hours partially spent learning the game. Level3 after the tutorial which was about an hour long). There's a lot of customization available which rocks too. One thing I wish they had is more feats. I want way more feats :) - like heavy armor optimization! but maybe that'll come with patches or xpac's. The game does lack combat/tactical feats quite a bit and as usual, I wish they had a better way of doing power attack (ie: the actual limitation of +1/base attack max and the ability to choose how much in a pause screen... as well as keeping it on until you choose to turn it off).

The game is fun. I wish I could've gotten the collectors instead of just the limited edition.

Harbourboy
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 7:46pm
Fascinating stuff so far.

Alavin
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 8:33pm
I have a Radeon X800 Pro, an AMD64 3800+ processor and 1gb of RAM, and I can run it at almost full spec; I just have to turn off individual light points, or something like that. It runs with no choppiness whatsoever. It looks absolutely wonderful. I play it quite zoomed in, especially in caves and dungeons, so I can see the chains and cobwebs hanging from the ceiling.

chevalier
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 9:21pm
@omnigodly: You got choppiness in NWN1 with that kind of hardware? And yeah, I know it didn't exist when NWN1 came out, but have you played NWN1 on it? In my case, with a system like I described, I didn't get any problems except the biggest battle or maybe the Daggerford module with Patch 1.68 etc.

OK, guys, maybe I'm asking too much, but does it seem to tax the RAM more or the processor?

Sir Farivald
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 9:53pm
I'd say it taxes both, but you'll benefit from having more RAM than a better CPU.

I would, personally, get that Celeron upgraded to something a bit more cutting edge, though.

Celesialraven
Thu, 2nd Nov '06, 11:12pm
I find that both NWN games are exceedingly RAM hungry.

Onto the game itself, i'll start with complaints. First, i'm finding the camera to be exceedingly irritated (all 4 modes have issues). Its even harder to get a nice angle than in NWN. As to the NPC's, other than being forced on you, which is rather irritating, i've found, just 30min into the game, that my party member will stand in place and stop following my character. i have him set to follow me closely, but its like he just goes brain dead, leaving me to run into a room full of baddies without support.

One thing i noticed, and i don't mean this in a negative way, was how much this game reminds me of ToEE (the possitive side of that game!). The animation, inventory, even feel of the game remind me more of ToEE than of NWN. It's very peculiar.

Sir Farivald
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 12:55am
There's a few things that are a bit too much like KoToR for my liking. I want to kill two of the NPCs I've met so far, but I can't. Damn lack of freewill. The whole "Leave 'em 'ere while you go and choose three to take on your way." thing is KoToR all over, as are a lot of the conversation cut-scenes.

And the voice acting is bordering on too modern, despite what I said earlier. (Though this isn't the case with all characters, just a couple of the NPCs... immature teeny girly crap I'm afraid.)

omnigodly
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 1:21am
I agree the tiefling is rather valley-retardedish.

My current system spec can run NWN1 at 100% everything going and never lag once while also running winamp, AIM, MSN Messenger, 10 IE windows, Norton, Steam, etc. lol...

I guess the only thing keeping me from running NWN2 at full graphics is the shadows. There are too many shadows (the individual blades of gras...) and it lags me out, so I have my graphics to max and shadows turned down low and there is absolutely no choppiness.

The game is getting a lot better, but the acting and personalities are bothering me. If you're going to make snake people speak common, for the love of god make them speak faster... I died once so far the entire game and it was against a lot of lizardfolk. One thing to keep in mind is the game is kinda bugged and different from what the manual posts.

I'm going for frenzied berserker and in the manual frenzy/rage don't stack, but in the game they do stack and instead of taking 2 points of subdual like you're supposed to, you take 12 points per round of frenzy. DUMB.

Nonetheless I still find the game more enjoyable than not. It sounds awful from what we're posting here, but it's really not that bad. Some minor annoyances for lots of fun gameplay.

Equester
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 9:45am
i have an ATI 9200. so i have to upgrade to play the game. beybey 1000kr (125 euro).
but i got the game, just cant start it :p

Marceror
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 3:21pm
Just a nitpicky note, but subdual damage is called "non-lethal" damage in 3.5.

My biggest grief with the game so far, and I'm still in west harbor due to persoanl time constraints, is that I'm battling with the camera. I can't seem to find a camera angle that feels right. Hopefully this is just indicative of my learning curve with the game, but it seems that there are many who are frustrated with camera options, the speed at which the camera can be rotated, etc.

I'm not a WASD guy. I like to point and click with the mouse, but finding a happy medium between doing this and being able to view the game at the angle/perspective that is most enjoyable for me is, so far, rather challenging.

The game is fun. I wish I could've gotten the collectors instead of just the limited edition.By the way, what's the difference between collector's and limited? I'm familiar with the limited edition, but don't think I've heard of the collector's edition.

Sir Farivald
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 4:16pm
I think they're the same thing, just a different way of saying it I guess.

omnigodly
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 5:08pm
No they're not, the collectors is bigger and comes in CE or LG. The limited has the rings from both versions of the collectors, but it doesn't have the figurine or the 10 pre-gen'd characters. It does have the map/art book and feat (bless of waukeen) though. It is by no means as large as the collectors edition, which they weren't selling at Fry's.


FYI about the camera angle, I found the best way to work with it, is to not keep it the same all the time. I get tired of not being able to see far enough ahead so I move it down, then once I'm searching for stuff, I put further up. I don't change the camera mode with '*', but I do use the mouse to move and change the camera angle, though you can use the up/down arrows as well as page down/up. It takes a little getting used to, but I did the same thing playing through NWN1 last week (in preparation for NWN2).

Btw, did anyone else notice how often the expac's made fun of the original game/main character in NWN1?

David Falkayn
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 5:28pm
Picked up the game yesterday and have gotten through the tutorial and into the beginning of chapter one.

Graphics are great--I'm glad I picked up that 7800GS card for this game--it was definitely worth the money I ponied up for it. Be warned, this game isn't for the marginal machine though. I have an Athlon 64 3000+ machine with 1 gig ram and I still have to throttle back somewhat on the graphics--even with my new video card.

Chevalier: I'm sorry to say that you're probably going to want to upgrade if you want to see this game in all its glory. You're definitely going to need to upgrade your video card and ram--I'm not sure about the processor.

Character creation is very, very good--unfortunately, I'm not made of the stern stuff that Sir Farivald is made of :) . I have succumbed to the temptation of making new characters. The variety of races and classes is truly outstanding.

The voice acting is very good--no complaints there at all.

It's just like BG and KOTORs 1 and 2 in that you can control all party members--makes life a whole lot easier for you. Also, there's some nice dialogue with the NPC's.

The storyline up to the point I'm at has been very good so far--I like the fact that background feats and your character's race figures into reactions and conversations. I ran the obligatory drow character through and yeah, people took notice...

Some negatives:

I thought the combat actually flowed much more smoothly in NWN classic than in NWN2--In many respects, the combat had a "Final Fantasy" feel to it in NWN2 which I didn't quite completely like.

All in all, definitely worth the money.

Will
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 6:07pm
Gah, just installed it and there appears to be a corrupt texture file on the disc. An error occurred during installation and I opted to continue regardless, hoping the updater would sort things. The updater failed halfway through and recommended the critical rebuild, which is not yet available on Obsidian's site. :grr:

Going to try a reinstall, although I'm not getting my hopes up. Anyone else had this? Should the critical rebuild should fix the problem or should I bite the bullet and seek a replacement from Amazon?

chevalier
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 6:10pm
I see some links between the Daggerford module and NWN2, no? The stronghold thing, the manga-ish feel...

edorien
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 8:10pm
Sulks alot
Picked it up today.
Seems that TS L632D dvd-drives are incompatible with the copy protection on the discs.

(TS L632D drives are in most "new" dell systems)
Another frisbee, great
Oh how i hate securom

Uytuun
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 8:25pm
Oh my. :s That sucks.


I looked for a copy today, but as I predicted, there was none to be found. Monday in a bigger city then.

Trellheim
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 8:47pm
None in Luxemburg, either.
I'll have to buy it later or get it cheap from play.com(37.49€!).

omnigodly
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 9:02pm
The further I progress into the game, the more I seem to like it, but I still have the one consistant complaint of not being able to drop/add party members at my own descretion. There's probably a different way of doing it that from NWN1, but I don't know it and it bugs me splitting XP 4 ways instead of 2.

Halasz
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 10:43pm
Has anyone run the game on a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series video card? If so how does it run?

omnigodly
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 10:54pm
More info - make sure you quick save often (f12). The game has so far autosaved twice in the 6 hours I've put into it and forgetting to save has cost me about 2 hours of redoing stuff the equiv. of going from the Underdark in BG2 back to Irenicus' dungeon... ugh... I think I'm also going to reroll from barb to something else. Berserker is too pathetic with 12 damage/round instead of 2 from frenzy.

Trellheim
Fri, 3rd Nov '06, 11:03pm
Posted this in another topic already:

I have ATI Radeon X550, seems that lower X300 & higher X600 are supported. Will mine work?

Marceror
Sat, 4th Nov '06, 12:57am
Has anyone run the game on a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series video card? If so how does it run? I'm running that very card, and basically everything turned on (which were the settings the game detected for my card), and so far it's running very smoothly. Big caveat here though is that I'm still in the tutorial section of the game (haven't had a lot of free time), so I'm fully expecting slow ups when I get to some of the larger battles. I'm keeping it in 1024 x 768 resolution, as not to press my luck.

Halasz
Sat, 4th Nov '06, 1:05am
thnx marceror I was worried it was going to slow down heaps.

Bombur
Sat, 4th Nov '06, 1:13am
Got it Wednesday. Played through the tutorial and then some. I'm running the minimum specs, and it works fine, except that it takes as long as 3 minutes to launch the game, and a similar length of time to transition between chapters.

The graphics are great. They're using tons of game engine "movies" in the dialogue, which is very cool (at least the first time through!).

Still learning the ropes on the controls/interface, which seem better in some ways and worse in others than NWN1. The camera is somehow harder to control than NWN1, though I haven't yet put my finger on the issue, and the protagonist sometimes directs his own actions even when script ("puppet") mode is disabled.

My biggest gripe relates to the save function. There is no quicksave, and saving over an existing game requires you to rename the save each time. So, there is no quick and easy way to save.

I'm not deep enough into the story to comment on that yet, and I haven't looked at the toolset at all.

Edit: Doh! Just noticed that someone posted f12 as the quicksave key. Wish I could have found that in the manual or the keyboard assignments!

omnigodly
Sat, 4th Nov '06, 4:22pm
To skip through the movie scenes faster you can left click on the screen and it'll skip the current dialogue and move on to the next. You can keep doing this until it's either over or you're part of the conversation begins.

I'd prefer to be able to go over what was said before I respond sometimes, but that cinematic makes it impossible. Kind've makes you need to pay attention though.

Blackthorne TA
Sat, 4th Nov '06, 8:41pm
Just picked up the DVD version. Has a nice 177 page manual that I will be reading shortly :)

Boy at a busstop
Sun, 5th Nov '06, 1:25pm
I have it!

Or rather, my brother has it, my pc can't run it, so I have to play at his.
Which sucks, cause I can't play it non stop now :D .

Uytuun
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 11:12am
Bought it today. :D Also saw a lonely BG Saga box staring at me, so I bought one of those too, you never know...the old CDs might break and then what?

Enagonios
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 11:20am
crap. just checked the system specs on gamespot and I flunked on one of the first requirements: 512 RAM :bang:

chevalier
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 11:20am
Also saw a lonely BG Saga box staring at me, so I bought one of those too, you never know...the old CDs might break and then what?:shake:

Cúchulainn
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 11:24am
Got it on Saturday, thought it was okay, but its a little jerky to control (had to lower the graphics, dispite exceeding all required specs) and cannot download the patch as my router is OOA.

David Falkayn
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 3:09pm
I've run into one cutscene glitch--the dialogue played out ok, but the scene itself was a mess--not a game-breaker, but not fun either. I've also had some pathway problems here and there--again, mostly irritants--except when they happen in a combat situation.

Otherwise, gameplay mechanics are similar to Kotors 1 and 2--which is both a good and not-so-good thing. A good thing in that you do have control over your NPC's--a not so good thing in that you need to keep an eye on them or they will do some screwy stuff at times--although I've foudn that by and large they do ok in fights when on tehir own--and there are camera and pathway glitches.

Storywise, right now I'm enjoying how things are developing. I like the characters--even Neeshka--the biggest issue I can see here is that there doesn't seem to be much room for an evil PC to 'prosper' here--the game seems to be following the normal Bioware/Obsidian meme of targeting the story for good PCs and not really giving much of a thought towards an evil directed story arc.

All in all, while a good game, I'd say we're a few patches away from where we need to be.

Deadman
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 4:10pm
Got it on Friday. Damn good game! Enjoying the storyline so far. In neverwinter at the moment. Excellent graphics. Camera's control is slightly hampering.


SPOILER - SPOILER!


NASHER IS BALD! LOL!

END SPOILER

Barmy Army
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 5:28pm
I've just bought it. This is the first game I've bought in bloody ages! I just wanted to take advantage of the update system, which I bet I couldn't with a moody version.

I'll give it a whirl when I get home from work and give the most important verdict of all. The Barmy Army verdict.

Will
Mon, 6th Nov '06, 6:33pm
Yahoo! Finally got it working! Runs alright at full detail with no shadows on my 3ghz p4/geforce 6800/1 gig ram beastie. Had to buy a new DVD writer, though, as it was my old cantankerous one that was causing the install problems.

Have reached the inn outside the starting town as a level 4 wizard and the game is mighty fine so far. Great blend of NWN's character building stuff and KOTOR's cinematic character interaction. Should be great when the next patch or two irons out the funny stuff and people start making modules. Heres to many years of Neverwinter Nights gaming goodness!

The Magister
Fri, 10th Nov '06, 11:53am
Delayed once again! ARRRRRRRRRR
This time the release date for NWN2 is set to the 16th of November. Trying very hard to avoid smashing something. :flaming:

Atmer
Fri, 10th Nov '06, 3:16pm
Finally! :shake:

It was supposed to be released on November’s 3rd, but it was only yesterday that I could find it for sale.

As soon as I got home, I installed it, then I tried to update it, but I couldn’t. For some reason beyond my comprehension it would always freeze at 6%. I’m going to try it again tonight. :confused: