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Wed, 14th Mar '07, 2:45am
Are two weapon fighting/defense the only dual wielding feats? I already have improved critical and weapon focus in rapier so that's her weapon of choice(for now), I was thinking of using daggers in the left hand. Any suggestions other than the obvious using a lighter weapon in the left hand?
[ March 14, 2007, 15:45: Message edited by: Taluntain ]
Wed, 14th Mar '07, 3:55am
Rapier is light, should be good for off-hand, but wasn't in NWN1. Don't know if it's fixed in NWN2. Whatever you can get for crits will serve well and she needs a ton of DEX to make up for rogue BAB and dual wielding penalties. Won't hurt her AC at all. ;)
Wed, 14th Mar '07, 4:15am
You are penalized for using a rapier in the off-hand. Rapiers are one handed, not light, weapons. They are treated as light weapons for the purpose of weapons finesse but not for the purpose of dual wielding.
Still, with the feats that you have chosen dual wielding rapiers and taking the -2 to hit penalty seems like a valid choice to me.
Wed, 14th Mar '07, 10:59pm
i gave neeshka TWF, ITWF, GTWF, and TWD,ITWD
last feat was, i think, focus in a shortsword
with that configuration, she pretty much splattered everything (primary and offhand sneak attacks easily amounted for more than 100 dmg a round), as long as the enemy wasn't immune to crits and i did the flanking properly
Thu, 15th Mar '07, 9:59am
Hint: You'll run over a few smallish enchanted weapons that offer free feats and make dualwielding attractive for Neeshka ;)
Thu, 15th Mar '07, 11:00pm
JSBB, rapiers are light weapons in PNP. One-handed, medium-sized light weapons. Pretty much the only medium-sized light weapon to exist. AFAIK this is also the reason why they can be Finessed - they are light.
Thu, 15th Mar '07, 11:25pm
I will take your word for it, the last time I played PNP was shortly after 2nd edition was released. I don't remember there being rapiers or finessable weapons rules under 2nd edition. What I do know is that by the NWN rules rapiers are classified as finessable one handed weapons.
It makes a lot more sense that way really - using two rapiers would be pretty awkward.
Fri, 16th Mar '07, 12:09am
the reason why they can be FinessedThat was part of the reason I used rapiers, because they can be finessed but are more powerful than daggers and cooler than a plain jane short sword.
using two rapiers would be pretty awkwardYea, even if you can use two rapiers I'm not sure I would use two, because I think it would be silly having two rapiers that's why I was asking about daggers.
Fri, 16th Mar '07, 2:27am
JSBB is correct about the rapier (though it's not really considered light). In the 3.5E rules a rapier is a one-handed melee weapon, not a light melee weapon. It is however special in that like the whip and spiked chain (which are also not light melee weapons) it is specifically called out in the Weapon Finesse feat along with all light weapons.
Mon, 30th Apr '07, 2:57pm
I've found Neeshka to be an indespensible member of my group - particularly by dual-wielding her. She can tank with the best of them. I've put all her feats into two-weapon fighting styles and improved criticals in daggers, rapiers and short swords.
One thing I've noticed (semi spoilerish): this game is a short sword fan' dream come true. There are SO MANY great short swords to choose from it's insane. When I got Shandra in my party, I was annoyed at first that they'd made her an emphasis short sword fighter w/ weapon finesse by default. Then I immediately started running into all the great shorties and haven't given her anyting else (I'm just starting chapter 3). Same deal with Neeshka. I've so far found 3 keen daggers and 2 keen rapiers for her to use, some with elemental damage as well.
Ass kickery to be had by all. :roll:
Tue, 1st May '07, 12:45am
What I wish they had was two-weapong fighting, shield expert and shield bash feats so you can be a dual wielder with a spiked shield while still getting the shields AC bonus. Takes an extra feat or three from just plain two-wepaon fighting but it's worth it and a very cool way to fight!
Neeshka dual-weilding is very very good though. I very rarely see a rogue not use weapon finess and 2 weapons. 2 shots at sneak attack? why not?!!