View Full Version : Baldur's Gate 3 is dead..


Saladin
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 3:00pm
The REAL Baldur's Gate 3 was the game we call "Throne of Bhaal". That's the truth, and the saga ended there. :mad: While I admit that it can be interesting to continue, I feel that the name of the game would just be used to either make whole new game (which is wrong) or a continueing of the ToB, which would be nearly impossible, seeing as there were 3 different endings to the ToB. I hated the Dark Alliance series and this would be case here I think.

Though I really hope Bethesda makes a good third part of the Fallout series.. ;)

I refuse to speculate. Why beat a dead horse?

Prove me wrong if you wish.

Morgoth
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 3:17pm
Money

Saladin
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 3:35pm
is not everything.

Kam
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 7:06pm
it's the only thing. :D

Sorry. Seriously, it's true that most likely BG 3 won't be the twin brother of BG 1 and 2. Is that a bad thing? It's going to be a prequel, so we'll hopefully get to see interesting parts of history. I can only pray that they'll resist the temptation to throw in cameos, either of popular FR characters (cough, Drizzt, cough) or chars from BG 2 just because they're popular. I'm looking forward to it, and I rwally think it'll be good.

Keeping my fingers crossed here.

edit: And on a side note, I actually liked Dark Alliance.

[ November 09, 2004, 20:20: Message edited by: Kam ]

Saladin
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 9:17pm
"Pre-equal"? As in Baldur's Gate episode 1?

Morgoth
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 10:11pm
No, as in Baldurs Gate: the tale before Baldur's Gate 1, probably about Gorion meeting the protagonist of the original series,

Rednik
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 11:33pm
I'm predicting BG3 is going to be kiddy-fied console crap that they're pushing to make as much money as possible off of the BG name.

Expect a completely different camera system, combat, storyline and characters. Any possible reason why they even went with the name BG3 if it wasn't about money eludes me.

Saladin
Tue, 9th Nov '04, 11:56pm
Rednik, agreed.

Morgoth: That's exactly what I meant.. And it sounds very crappy to me. What's the story going to be about? :idea: The newborn child of the dead tree running around Candlekeep reading books and doing chores..? Or perhaps you play as Bhaal running around trying to get some with every creature of the other sex one see's? :rolleyes:

Rednik
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 12:18am
Prediction: Story is going to be full of hack and slash, you must go to point A and come back, you need to clear this dungeon and etc. crap.

Fanboys: omg woah, but at least we gett 2 c tha feer in teh ork's eyes? lol

Shalladeth
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 12:36am
Who knows...perhaps they'll develop a new engine similar to the Infinity Engine but better (gotta keep that overhead view), have a great story line, and not be buggy.
Not holding my breath, but one can dream!

As far as the story line goes, perhaps we could play as Minsc...it'd be about his travels with Dynaho from Rasheman, his first meeting with Boo...of course, we'd have to assume that he'd had all his levels drained by some undead Gnoll before he winds up in Nashkel....

Enagonios
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 5:53am
@Kam

seriously? you liked Dark Alliance? :eek: It was crap compared to Champions of Norrath, at least they let you create your own character :/

As regards BG3, you never know. I'm keeping an open mind..

Midwinter
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 7:34am
Different views don't bother me - whether it's over-the-shoulder or isometric, it still could be good. That's largely down to the implementation. Also, it's probably not going to have the same feel of the previous games - it's a new team, so fair enough.

However, comments about the fear in the orc's eyes when you blast him with a fireball do little to stir any hopes of playing a good role-playing game.

Enagonios
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 10:42am
I think Rednik was being sarcastic. That was a line that one of the NWN developers used to market their game iirc.

Kam
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 11:12am
Yeah, I liked Dark Alliance. I've never played Champions, largely because I don't have a PS2. And besides, create your character, don't create your character, who cares? In that kind of game, it's all about becoming as powerful as possible. Dark Alliance was FUN. It was no Fallout 2 or BG2, but it was fun to pick up, play for a couple of levels, and then go back to System Shock 2.

Back on topic, as I've said elsewhere, I'm hoping to play as Balduran. Arrrr, pirates ahoy! Avast and belay, and all that good piratey stuff. :D

Saladin
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 9:20pm
While I admit that it would be interesting to play as Balduran, it wont feel as a true BG.. I dont think they should call it BG3 then.

Midwinter
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 10:35pm
Was it? Oh, damn - well, if my brain works that well, perhaps I'll enjoy BGIII after all!

Saladin
Wed, 10th Nov '04, 11:52pm
say wha..?

Midwinter
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 7:55am
Perhaps I should have added '@ Enagonios' in my previous post. Sorry :)

Abomination
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 9:34am
I simply think an RPG should not EVER be a prequel. It limits character choice. Your character MUST go down a certain path in a certain way otherwise the story will have major plot holes.

Why call it Baldur's Gate? To make money. They can call it Baldur's Gate if they like, I don't want them to use the same damn saga though. It's over, finished, they can't improve upon it or add anything to it without screwing something up. I thought Bethesda Softworks prided themselves on having a good reputation from producing some very good games (Daggerfall, Morrowind). They know how to make good games, why would they do this when it's obviously going to be VERY difficult to have a good story.

Carcaroth
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 10:11am
I don't really care about plot holes, BG2 assumed what you party was and who was still alive from BG1. The fact that my character had never spoken to Jaheira & Khalid (they disappear after a while if you don't pick them up), or that I'd fragged Edwin didn't come into it.
Enjoy the game for what it is, don't worry about how it effects the "future". The future is (somewhat) fluid next time you play the game anyway!

Rednik
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 3:09pm
@Enagonios

Nope, that's what the Atari rep said about BG3 in PC Gamer.

Enagonios
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 3:32pm
ah my bad, i must've misread it in some post. I thought that was part of the reason they gave for making NWN a 3D game instead og isometric.

on another note, yeah i'll admit it would be difficult to make a good story now that the saga is well wrapped up, but you never know what these guys will come up with next. it may just be worth it.

Rednik
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 3:40pm
This game is going to be more NWN or DA-like than the others and probably not going to be worth it. You can already tell this is going to be a leech on the genre because they kept the name but are applying it to a completely different game.

Morten
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 10:24pm
"I'm predicting BG3 is going to be kiddy-fied console crap that they're pushing to make as much money as possible off of the BG name."

i'll speculate a bit more.
if this prediction is corect and BG3 is going to be a console game and BW gots unreal3 engine and makes a console game with no name... prepare to become dazzled if there's any connection between those facts.

i'm sure the unreal3 engine would be perfect for BG3

given the anticipation of fans bg3 is probably the most secret game development project today.and they're heading for a huge surprise.

atari perhaps is not on very friendly terms with bw iirc... but i'm not so sure about it.

let's just wait and see cause where big money is in stake..even the worst enemies become close friends especially in the business world where money is the reason of existence :)

Rednik
Thu, 11th Nov '04, 11:19pm
Good point Morten, but I wonder if Bioware is even doing BG3. I heard it could be Stromfront.

Kovalis Darkfire
Fri, 19th Nov '04, 2:18am
Sadly, I fear there may be some truth in the topic statement... I do hope it will be ABSOLUTELY false though. But my hopes are frequently futile, so I guess we'll all just have to wait(without holding our breath)!

Mower the Mage
Wed, 24th Nov '04, 12:57pm
Keep in mind that it's now fake-Atari that has control of this and they're most likely to pander to the slobbering masses.

Takara
Wed, 24th Nov '04, 5:58pm
You know.. why do people go on about BG3 having to continue the story. Doesnt the name give any clue? 'Baldur's Gate'! Surely a sequel should be based in that city, and not a game that takes place miles away in the realms.

Taluntain
Wed, 24th Nov '04, 10:25pm
Completely unlike Baldur's Gate 2, then? :shake:

Rednik
Wed, 24th Nov '04, 10:37pm
Completely unlike NWN too I hope. :shake:

Takara
Sat, 27th Nov '04, 1:08am
True BG2 took place away from the city. Initially a small disappointment.

Greystar
Sat, 27th Nov '04, 3:47pm
You slaughtered every monster and did every quest in Baldur's Gate, already, why would you want to remain there? ;)

chevalier
Sat, 27th Nov '04, 4:10pm
I don't believe in Baldur's Gate 3 ever coming out, to be honest. Even if so, there won't be much of a link with the previous parts of the saga if charname's fate isn't an important part of the background, which doesn't seem likely to happen.

Douganation
Sun, 28th Nov '04, 3:55am
From what I've heard from gaming sites and mags it seems as though BG3 is going to take place during the time of Balduran. So thats like...400 years I think before BG1&2. Hopefully that means that there wont be any stupid Drizzt cameo, although I've also heard rumors that one of the main characters will be a long lost hamster toting ancestor of Minsc; I think that would be very very lame.

chevalier
Sun, 28th Nov '04, 1:13pm
I'm not saying it would have no chance of success, but it wouldn't be easy, that's sure.

Yulaw9460
Thu, 2nd Dec '04, 7:09am
Well, I don´t know... It could be posible... I mean, new 3rd edition rules perhaps... and if anyone are afraid that the story would be crappy, well the Forgotten Realms are vast, I´m sure that something relevant could be dug up. The makers of BG have been knovn to be creative before...
But I also don´t see a BG3 any time soon, if at all.
If they decided to go for it, it should not come as a surprise, that a LOT of things would be similar to BGI+II. But, hell it could be fun...

Chevalier Mal Fet
Thu, 2nd Dec '04, 8:06pm
I don't really see what's left open in the story still. It just couldn't really be Baldur's Gate anymore. There's not much opportunity for a prequel either, unless they wanted to do something about the Time of Troubles.

Dark Slayer
Sun, 5th Dec '04, 11:18am
I don't think there will be a BG 3. It would be out
right now if they were going to make it.

Cap'n CJ
Sun, 5th Dec '04, 4:09pm
Are you so sure? Look at Doom 3...

Dark Slayer
Mon, 6th Dec '04, 11:08am
AT LEAST THERE SHOULD BE NEWS THAT BG 3 IS COMING!

Taluntain
Mon, 6th Dec '04, 11:38am
There has been, but you obviously weren't paying attention. Go read our news archives. And don't use ALL CAPS again.

Dark Slayer
Mon, 6th Dec '04, 12:41pm
News archives? Whoa, this site is so huge that i seem to know only 1/100 part of it. I'll check it out.

murphy917
Tue, 7th Dec '04, 2:07am
As a newbie to the RPG arena, I purchased an XBOX and loved both Baldurs Gate games as well as Norrath on the PS2. I have also played the LOTH Return of the King and loved it.

Could anyonoe list some other games for the XBOX platform that are simlar in gameplay to the ones listed above. I need a 2 player game that allows both characters to fight on the screen at the same time.

I hate the split-screen co-op gameplay of games like Halo and Dynasty Warriors.

I love the RPG type of games best but any of you that know of other 2 player coop on screen at the same time games, I would greatly appreciate you suggestions.

-Murph'

Rednik
Tue, 7th Dec '04, 2:17am
Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone is probably what you want but you should really try some PC RPGs such as Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. The games you mentioned are just glorified action games, really.

Taluntain
Tue, 7th Dec '04, 7:17am
This is totally off-topic here, so please open a new thread about it in The Playground forum, murphy917.

Edit: Ah, I see you already have. Good. ;)

[ December 07, 2004, 08:29: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

Daggerfall
Sat, 11th Dec '04, 10:27am
It wont be a baldurs gate at all . the Tale of Bhaal's son is now over...

Sarevok•
Mon, 13th Dec '04, 11:25pm
How about we just wait and see instead of being so negative about it. I know it is hard not to for obvious reasons but surely there has been more then enough posts saying that it will be crap or whatever. I think this BG3 forum is too premature.

Meldon
Tue, 14th Dec '04, 7:51am
I think it`s not premature, but a discussion we must have.

BG3 is not dead. Not even born. And has a lot to offer when it will come, and much if we think as well what we want from it.

In my opinion BG series is a rpg sub-genre on it own, and if the producer will understand to develop it in this sub-genre and not in other, we can have a lot of hopes.

Lord Garak
Tue, 14th Dec '04, 7:44pm
Lets hope we don't have to wait like we did for Half Life 2. If we do that I'll go crazy.

Silinrun
Tue, 14th Dec '04, 10:05pm
Heres my opinion, though I know very little of a squel or prequel, why not just continue the story from the ending where your character let go of the essense, then continued his or her life afterward. I really would love to be able to go on after like that. If they kept all the things from BG2, the character interaction and such, that would be awesome, I hated IWD and IWD2 because you make everyone in the party, wheres the fun in interaction between characters unless you find other real people to play the game with? Which I have tried and had no luck with -.- Anyway, if it were a prequel, then something from the Times of Trouble, or I dont know, something? It really doesnt *have* to be following the Bhaal theme anyway. Baldur's Gate is the games name. Not Prophecy of Bhaal or whatever. I truely loved the PC versions, I didnt utterly hate DA1, and never played two. CoN was great, far better then DA1 but it was too much pure hack and slash that got really repeditive. Wow, I had a lot more to say then I had expected ^_^

Saladin
Thu, 16th Dec '04, 2:40pm
Well, I can tell you this. If some company totally steals the franchise from Bioware, I will see it as an affront.

The_Swordalizer
Thu, 16th Dec '04, 5:43pm
Hmmm... set about 400 years before the original, new 3D viewpoint... does this remind anyone of Knights of the Old Republic? If so it could be cool, not having to lead to anything but still referencing area's and legends you hear in BG. It would be nice to see how things were 400 years before the current Forgotten Realms, you could meet Melf (of the Acid Arrows and the meteors) and stuff. Maybe you could be founding the city of Baldurs Gate or Candlekeep? you could meet some of the Elves from the game aswell. I really hope this doesn't turn out to be crap

Warrior of the World
Thu, 16th Dec '04, 6:28pm
Actually, Melf is from the world of Greyhawk, so no matter when the game is set, you wouldn't be able to meet him.

The_Swordalizer
Fri, 17th Dec '04, 11:16am
If you can meet Dragonlance Knights and go to Hell in BG2 why not meet Melf?

Register
Sun, 19th Dec '04, 1:41pm
Please, can someone give me a link where it says that the game will be set 400 years in the past? I have heard that it will be, at most, 30 years in the past, and that's a difference of 370 years, for you math-impared. ;)

Rednik
Sun, 19th Dec '04, 6:04pm
I have the PCG magazine with the article, while I don't recall the Atari rep mentioning specific dates, he says you will encounter a hamster-toting ancestor of Minsc, which pushes the time way past 30 years before BG1.

Register
Mon, 20th Dec '04, 5:42pm
Not only is that sad, that it's so long before the other BGs, but it is stupid as well.

Minsc got the hamster after he hit his head, not something he got as a kid or anything like that.

Rednik
Mon, 20th Dec '04, 10:13pm
He had the hamster in BG 1, when he was just a bit loopy, it took a hit in the head for the two to really bond in BG2.

Shalladeth
Tue, 21st Dec '04, 2:20pm
Having a hamster-toting ancestor of Minsc in BG3 is a foolish idea indeed. One dude carrying around a hamster was weird enough, but a whole family of them?! C'mon...at least change it up a bit...have his grandpa Dunsc carry around a giant space platypus.

Rednik
Tue, 21st Dec '04, 11:43pm
I'm not so much concerned with Minsc's ancestor as I am with the perspective change. Having someone like Dunsc would at least keep series continuity, but switching to some NWN-like crap for the engine will go a long way into alienating Baldur's Gate fans.

Ideally, an engine like ToEE or Silent Storm used would be great, but I doubt we will see something like that.

GodRules44
Thu, 30th Dec '04, 1:36am
Honestly speaking, It would be kind of interesting to play as a god... basically invicible... get laid by multiple girls of random species (that Bhall did get around didn't he :-P) but in reality there's no story to it. Baldur's Gate is taken away from the rest of the RPGs because of character interaction, and of course plot. The games for PS2 and Xbox (Dark Alliance) are not really BG games, they're just hack and slash games with the same name.

In reality, I wouldn't trust Black Isle and such with the task to let us down. They have pumped out these good games and expansions, and by now they have my trust not to screw things up.

Beren
Thu, 30th Dec '04, 11:46am
Just so you know, Black Isle went under quite some time ago. :)

Niskers
Thu, 30th Dec '04, 4:25pm
Personally I think it would be interesting to explore other children of Bhaal. Okay, so you've lost the suspense of not know about your past etc, but as was mentioned the Forgotten Realsm is huge, why couldn't we just play out a completely different Child of Bhaal story in a completely knew location. There's probably hundreds of different spins you could put on it to make an interesting game. Because in all honesty I have absolutely no interest in playing another high level game that continues from the end of BGII regardless of whether or not the PC is a god. I miss the days of BGI where finding 10 +1 arrows was a big deal and you actually had to be affraid of Wolves, Xvarts and Kobalds. There's only so powerful a game can get until it becomes a little rediculous. Pre-BG might be fun, but I hope they keep the levels reasonable. I don't really want to play a game where you start above lvl20 and go from there. Give me a first level mage and miles of wilderness any day.

Rednik
Thu, 30th Dec '04, 4:44pm
get laid by multiple girls of random species (that Bhall did get around didn't he :-P) Coming from a guy with the tag, Godrules44. :lol:

GodRules44
Fri, 31st Dec '04, 2:23am
Haha yeah, more like one of the characters in TOB I think (possibly Melissan) saying something like that.

Rednik
Fri, 31st Dec '04, 2:49am
Oh, I thought you meant a figure like Jesus or Buddha or something.... :lol:


However, to maintain a thin veneer of seriousness to the topic, I would say romances shouldn't be integral to the game, as they always come across as sappy and half-baked. I would prefer some heavy NPC interaction though.

GodRules44
Fri, 31st Dec '04, 11:06pm
No I do mean a figure like Jesus. The above comment was about the "getting around" comment.

As long as there's enough Dialogue to make it a real RP game, It's fine with me. I'm not that hard to please.

Mierin
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 1:54am
I would love just for BG3 to be larger in scope, so far both episodes have just had 1 properly fleshed out city, with several smaller villages, and several outposts.

GodRules44
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 3:02am
Yeah, more than one real city would be nice, mostly because you really get a multi-cultural RP experience if there are not just a few small villages.

Sarevok•
Sun, 2nd Jan '05, 7:59pm
I don't know about that, the major cities in Faerun are spread great distances from each other. So far we have had Athkatla, Baldur's Gate, Luskan, and Neverwinter. Didn't even get to see Waterdeep in HotU. I think Waterdeep and Calimport are the biggest cities in the realms. I'd say BG3 will be in either of those two cities or in one that we have already visited.

Morgoroth
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 1:14am
Well a city that I personally would like to see as a starting place is Zhentil Keep but unfortunetly I do not think that is going to happen since it lies so far away from the sword coast and for some funny reason I have a feeling that the next BG3 will be based on the Sword Coast too. Waterdeep and Calimport are pretty good guesses and both entirely possible but I do not think they will be used because of their size. I would assume the game will mostly take place in Baldur's Gate just because it seems so logical to go back there.

toughluck
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 1:50am
Heres my opinion, though I know very little of a squel or prequel, why not just continue the story from the ending where your character let go of the essense, then continued his or her life afterward. I really would love to be able to go on after like that. If they kept all the things from BG2, the character interaction and such, that would be awesome, I hated IWD and IWD2 because you make everyone in the party, wheres the fun in interaction between characters unless you find other real people to play the game with? Which I have tried and had no luck with -.- Anyway, if it were a prequel, then something from the Times of Trouble, or I dont know, something? It really doesnt *have* to be following the Bhaal theme anyway. Baldur's Gate is the games name. Not Prophecy of Bhaal or whatever. I truely loved the PC versions, I didnt utterly hate DA1, and never played two. CoN was great, far better then DA1 but it was too much pure hack and slash that got really repeditive. Wow, I had a lot more to say then I had expected ^_^ToB is designed with a final XP target set so high that if BG3 was to be a sequel, it would be an adventure of a 40th level party. If you got hordes of 35th+ level creatures thrown against you, it would lose all integrity with metagaming terms - an average person doesn't get past level 1, "ordinary" adventurers don't get past level 8, extraordinary ones past level 14, and only the legends go to levels beyond 20 (think Drizzt, Elminster, Khelben, and the sort). If, on the contrary, you got reasonable (up to 4th-5th level) opponents, the game would get boring with no XP progression at all.
And what kind of a plot would be interesting to such a high level party? They would basically be close to gods' avatars in their level and capabilities. I would wager a guess that if they were to battle all the high level heroes (already mentioned three with entire parties, as well as an army with them) they would have odds in their favour.

A prequel? I, for one, think it's a great idea. Writers get many opportunities for influencing the world, though it's tough to say whether it should take place during the time of troubles or earlier. ToT gives plenty of opportunities for plot twists, but most people would hate the idea of no magic in the game.

As for "Dunsc" - I wholeheartedly support the notion of Boo actually being a miniature giant space hamster. I believe the game drops many obvious hints at that. Maybe it's silly, but if Boo is not that mingispaham, it would be hard to explain what insight Minsc often had - contrary to what his ability scores describe.

Sarevok•
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 1:35pm
I think a prequel has already been confirmed ain't it?

Taluntain
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 8:04pm
Yes.

Mierin
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 8:26pm
We didnt get to see Luskan or neverwinter, dont count NWN.

Both cities in NWN were tiny, without any real atmosphere or depth.

Also, what does distance matter?

Rednik
Mon, 3rd Jan '05, 9:30pm
Ugh, in NWN, Luskan had around 8 buildings, tops. It doesn't count. :p

Son of Bhaal
Tue, 4th Jan '05, 11:34am
Athkatla was perfect, but then again so was the keep, I don't think its a question of size of the map when it comes to starting the game, just that it is relevant to the story and not going to drive us all to an early grave with pointless sub-quests. I have a feeling the start to the game will be similar to BGII but set in BG itself, and seeing as its a prequel will the developers skimp out on parts of the map? Who knows...

Laertis
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 1:09pm
Can anyone tell what's already confirmed for BG3?

San Ti
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 2:09pm
sorry for the following stupid question but there would be baldurs gate 3????AnD the stopped the project????F**CK

Pablo
Wed, 5th Jan '05, 9:29pm
Can anyone tell what's already confirmed for BG3?As far as I know, absolutely nothing. It's all speculation at this point.

sorry for the following stupid question but there would be baldurs gate 3????AnD the stopped the project????F**CKWell, if I recall correctly, Throne of Bhaal was originally planed as a full blown sequel, not an expansion. I'm not entirely sure what happened, but anyway, ToB was intended to be BG3.

Black Isle was working on Jefferson (BG3) a while before they were shut down, but Herve, in his infinite wisdom, decided to can it along with Van Buren (Fallout 3), the only two projects with any prospect of turning a profit for Interplay...

Jaheira
Sun, 16th Jan '05, 5:33am
One idea for the story of Baldur's Gate III could be life as an the Lord of Murder and the battle with Cyric.

Sarevok•
Mon, 17th Jan '05, 10:30pm
I don't think so, you would have no choice but to be evil.

Takara
Wed, 19th Jan '05, 7:34am
Not necessarily. Depends on if they do it from before BG2 or not. If they choose after, and assume that you took the god path in TOB, then they can handle you taking on the role of the lord of murder, and your clashes with Cyric that way. Then they could have two starting biographies, depending on your alignment to reflect whether you had the good, or evil, TOB end.

Shrikant
Sun, 23rd Jan '05, 6:17pm
Gods vs Gods wont be a very long fight, not in the DnD arena.
You cant even take the story of how Bhall ascended to the throne of God of Murder, since its pretty well laid out already. It does not allow for the type of charecter variation that 3.5E represents, for me atleast.

I think the only God story which can be taken is The Time of Troubles . Once Ao threw out all the Gods, anyone had a shot at ascending to Godhood.
IIRC a few Gods had already regained their positions by the time Gorion was killed. So this could tie in with the prequel notion too.
Please correct me if my lore-score aint too high ;)

Shalladeth
Wed, 26th Jan '05, 3:38am
Maybe we'll play as Gorion or one of his cohorts, ending the game with helping to free Gorion's future ward from being sacrificed. Or you could end up working for Davaorn (spelling?) and save the little Sarevok whelp at the end. The beginning and middle would be just adventuring around the sword coast, maybe some interaction with some of the fallen gods, maybe ol El will pop in from time to time. Maybe some of the Seven Sisters could make a cameo...I'd love to see the Simbul toss some art around!
Alas, I fear whatever good story they MIGHT come up with will be killed by the game itself. If it doesn't resemble the layout of the first two, they shouldn't give it the BG name. I felt the same way about that piece of crap Ultima IX...basically taking an isometric, party-based game and turning it in to fricken tomb raider.

cwarzy56
Fri, 4th Mar '05, 10:01pm
I will just cross my fingers and take it out on my pillow if I have to!

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starfox64
Tue, 15th Mar '05, 1:48pm
Think about all the "banging" your character did in BG2. Yeah, Aerie, them drow chicks. I'm sure there's quite a big deal of characters yet created that could be choosen from. What about a child from the Child of Bhaal? As for a plot, that's for the writers to figure out. I just came up with a subject haha. But just think about that for a minute or so...

Firag
Mon, 21st Mar '05, 4:20am
Mhm all that you say is nothing !!! ;) We will see tha game after some years !!!

Arctik
Fri, 1st Apr '05, 2:57am
As we've seen from BG2, it quite possibly won't have anything at all to do with the city itself. Perhaps it'll pick up on the tale of another Bhaalspawn, like that useless band of pinko humanoids you fight in ToB. I wouldn't mind an RPG where you play as a monster character... but I'm getting my hopes up for this title.

Oh no... what if it becomes a micro-management strategy game, where in an alternative storyline the PC became Lord of Murder, and you have to tend to your minions and temples, collect souls, perform miracles and the like? Ridiculous, but I'd sure love to play it.

Xyn.chez
Sun, 3rd Apr '05, 2:41pm
I don't mind the plot in bg3 as long as it is going to be a game as good as bg2. Certainly the story should have some links with bg1&2 but that doesn't really count i think.
I'd like to see a rpg with atmosphere like bg2 and a story on its niveau but i bet they produce a game with the flair of an italian public beach toilette... :(

Enagonios
Mon, 4th Apr '05, 10:50am
judging from the latest in the news area, looks like the title of this thread jut turned literal :eek:

Taluntain
Mon, 4th Apr '05, 11:15am
No, that was April 1st. Read the comments. ;)

Newfie
Wed, 6th Apr '05, 4:09am
I think they should put a fresh spin on the game and start over with an entire roster of new characters. The original saga and cast has run it's course. I would love to play in Damara and a fight against the Guild of Assassins with a little Zhent and Cult of the Dragon thrown in. King Gareth Dragonsbane with his cast make a guest appearance. Intrigue in the Bloodstone City and Heliogobalus against the spreading hand of the Grandfather of Assassins.

Chistoph
Fri, 15th Apr '05, 10:57pm
I must agree with Abomination, i dont think a "new"
RPG game should be a prequel!
It is easy to do in the movies because there is so much left out, but in a rpg, which if BG & BG2 were already played whats left"?

Yes you can go back and try to create a story line from before BG but will it work? Is there enough to put together to keep just the average BG mind
interested?

Now maybe an offshoot of some of the characters,
say between BG an BG2??????

Maybe a entirely new saga type maybe "Bhaal Wars"(LOL) seriously.....take off from the end of ToB
using your selected hero and go off into the heavens to fight the GODS?

L. Westerlund
Sun, 4th Dec '05, 11:18am
Sigh. I have a bad feeling about the storyline. But then again, they said the same about BG2.

Dark Slayer
Sun, 4th Dec '05, 11:58am
Damn it! I hate prequels! I also have a bad feeling about the storyline.

Why can't it be a sequel?!?

Example: The protagonist has turned evil, became the f***ing Lord of Murder and killed all of his siblings (even Imoen). Now, he seeks to wreak havoc on Toril but one "gifted" mortal stops him/her just in time. (With a whole lot more drama in it of course)

Merlanni
Sun, 4th Dec '05, 10:18pm
the title is Baldurs gate, not Bhaals gate. So more than one thing can happen in a city. Take NWN. The two expands come nowhere near to neverwinter.

start from scratch. no known faces execpt for a merchant. it does not matter what you do, the expectation will be to high. there are so many stories placed in fearun so why create something complicated to make it fit between the facts.

The Gatekeeper
Mon, 5th Dec '05, 5:05pm
They need to use the Baldur's Gate game name to make money off of this project, sorry guys thats all they have here...

Whoa.KinG
Mon, 5th Dec '05, 5:40pm
A good prequel = You're the main character and somehow get screwed over by the cult of Bhaal, then with your kick ass group of adventurers try2find out wat they're up to and stop them for the force of good! (Or if you're evil just so you can your revenge on the baddie) Like in BG/BG2. And gorion, Khalid/Jaheira would be NPC's. I know they're lvl 1 but BG1 takes place like 18 yrs after Gorion saves "charname." And i would think Jaheira/Khalid are much older than "charname" since they're half-elves.

Merlanni
Mon, 5th Dec '05, 10:02pm
and if charname is an elf, half elf, dwarf or other long living race? No, not Jaheira and co again.

forget bhaal, focus on Baldurs gate itself. It is not so hard to make a plot good enough for a game. what about the other two who became gods, did they not walk the earth?

AMaster
Wed, 7th Dec '05, 12:38pm
Ack! Dead post necromancers! Away with ye, heathen dogs!

Cirrus
Wed, 21st Dec '05, 10:41pm
I actually like the the idea of having a prequel where the main char is the mom of the BG1 char. along the way meet Gorion and maybe the final scenes could have something to with her dying in childbirth or something. I don't know, that is only one idea. Another might be to explore the BG1 Characters between BG1 and BG2. Just because BG2 says they were leaving Badur's Gate when they were jumped doesn't mean it was immediately after the first game. I don't know the designers have come up with some very good games, and although it isn't up to the same team of people, the new team is also very capable.

Merlanni
Thu, 22nd Dec '05, 7:24pm
Like some said, like me, dont't stare yourself blind on bhaal. Once Jaheira and the rest where new. Now we expect something from them, so many will be dissapointed when they act different.

So start new. Do not forget, the main theme is Baldurs gate the city.

Clixby
Sun, 19th Feb '06, 11:55am
It's a pity they couldn't just stop at BGII instead of making all that Dark Alliance crap; I swear a bit of me dies every time I say "PC games? Well, I've got Fallout, Baldur's Gate..." and they say "Baldur's Gate? I thought it was only on the PS2."
Really.
I can feel the brain cells boiling away.

syjadoc
Mon, 27th Feb '06, 1:01pm
i have buy the dark alice cause is think so bad its can be..... but it is.... at all who wanna try the game or buy it.. dont buy its the worst BG i ever see. its a smash in the face its a agony. im angry and i wish to all who have stop the protuction from BG3 a fast death and that they burn in the hell you money junkeys

auf das ihr leidet und eure nachfahren unfruchtsam und qualvoll sterben

im really angry

Zurga
Sun, 5th Mar '06, 2:53am
It's a pity they couldn't just stop at BGII instead of making all that Dark Alliance crap; I swear a bit of me dies every time I say "PC games? Amen.

Late
Mon, 6th Mar '06, 4:41am
I actually like the the idea of having a prequel where the main char is the mom of the BG1 char. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Throne of Bhaal unveil the story of the mother? The priestess of Bhaal thingy?

Beren
Mon, 6th Mar '06, 10:12am
Let the focus be on the fate of BG3 please.

WargX
Fri, 31st Mar '06, 3:51pm
Uhm.....
Dosen't the end of BG:DA 2 show that a third of that the DA series is coming?

It would kinda damage their reputation if they didn't, since they have shown that a third enemy is coming, just like the end of BG:DA 1 :p

Saphirefenix
Tue, 25th Jul '06, 7:16am
Ok ive been reading at ign.com, and they apparently never update their news, the last news post was in 2004, yeah, 2 years ago!! but it said that they were going to make a bg3, someday. I just found out about these plans for bg3 today. so no flaming me for not having a clue what went on these past 2 years.

Eldular
Sat, 29th Jul '06, 2:10am
Poor Beren, no one listens to him anymore :p (j/king).

Off topic: DA was pretty good IMO, the game that got me buying BG 2, then DA 2.

On/off topic: BG3 has the same fate as Fallout 3. Fallout 3 was started and then ended before production, never finished. Now Beth has picked it and will most likely finish the 's***ing-on-the-name' job that Fallout BOS for PS2 started, despite their 'we understand you' crap. Same fate will befall on BG3, they will take forever to make some horrid game which will elad to them selling the rights to some huge developer company that will make money off the name by introducing a bunch of huge f'ing lies about them 'understanding the BG community'. Our only hope is that Bioware or perhaps Obisidian pick up the rights somehow and don't mess it up.

doug
Fri, 11th Aug '06, 1:09am
How do you no the game is even going to be made? I have searched the net and it only says that they have the licences to make it but might not. Can i get a link please?

Taluntain
Fri, 11th Aug '06, 11:31am
Try reading the other threads in this forum, and search our news archives for Baldur's Gate 3. It's been explained in this forum about a dozen times already.