View Full Version : BG Prequel anyone?


Elfen Lied
Mon, 17th Sep '07, 8:22am
The ending of TOB pretty much means no sequel, but what about a prequel to the whole series?

I doubt they would make a game where you play as the child of your character from BGII, even if in some of the epilogues for the various NPCs it says they had a child with your character.

I wouldnt mind a game set during the time of Balduran, Balduran is who the city of Baldur's Gate is named after.

or maybe some kind of spin off, you cant really get a sequel to TOB, as well your character can be lvl 40 or higher, and that is far too high a lvl to start a (new) game at.

Shaitan
Mon, 17th Sep '07, 9:03am
Or maybe the child of the child of Bhaal ;)

doohh

[ September 17, 2007, 12:39: Message edited by: Shaitan ]

Elfen Lied
Mon, 17th Sep '07, 12:31pm
like i said I doubt they would do that

oiseaugrande
Tue, 18th Sep '07, 4:19am
I dont know how you figure there wouldn't be much of a story line for a BG3 set after the events of ToB...its been a while since Ive played, so here's what Wikipedia says the ending is:
**MAJOR Spoiler**

Ultimately, the player must vanquish all competitors and be presented with the choice of ascending the throne of Bhaal and becoming the new God of Murder, or destroying it and returning to peaceful life as a mortal. The Main Character may also ascend the throne of Bhaal and banish Bhaal's evil essence, becoming a deity dedicated to good and righteousness.

Seriously, how could you NOT come up with a wicked BG3 after that?? Picture this: farmer, devoted to his crops (just south of Baldur's Gate) and the quiet life is waylayed by a group of mercenaries from the (Moonshae Isles), who are some kind of advance force ready to lay waste to the sword coast. It just so happens that this same farmer happens to be the God of Murder. "You just @&#%$& with the wrong country bunmpkin!"
Like wow...replace Moonshae Isles with another kingdom around BG...I mean the possibilities are endless!! Baldur's Gate prequel: :( . Baldur's Gate Sequel: :) !!!

Faye
Tue, 18th Sep '07, 3:04pm
Er, actually, isin't the announced Baldur's Gate III suppose to be a prequel of sorts set many years ago (albeit unrelated to) before the events of BGII?

I remember reading that somewhere before... I think it was in an interview in PC Gamer.

Taluntain
Tue, 18th Sep '07, 4:05pm
Yep. Though considering how long ago that's been, it doesn't mean that the plans haven't changed since then, given that nothing came of that particular BG3 idea.

Rawgrim
Tue, 18th Sep '07, 5:15pm
If its made its going to be in 3.5 rules. Or 4th ed. That would completely ruin the game for me. I hope it never ever gets made. The BG saga ended really well after all. I`m kind of hoping for a dragonlance game, or something like that. I`m kind of tired of the Forgotten realms really.

Taluntain
Tue, 18th Sep '07, 7:20pm
Any new game coming out now will be 4e, definitely.

Elfen Lied
Tue, 18th Sep '07, 10:12pm
Er, actually, isin't the announced Baldur's Gate III suppose to be a prequel of sorts set many years ago (albeit unrelated to) before the events of BGII?
yeh i heard something long time ago, i just thought id get your guys opinions on it.

oiseaugrande
Wed, 19th Sep '07, 5:53am
Black Isle was thinking about making a BG3 called 'BG3: The Black Hound' but it wasnt going to have anything to do with the BG series at all... the only reason it incorporated BG into its title was because of copyright/rights ownership issues. It was scraped, thankfully, cause word on the street was that it would have a hard level 8 cap!

Elfen Lied
Wed, 19th Sep '07, 7:34am
lvl 8 WTF???

thank god it was scraped

Colthrun
Wed, 19th Sep '07, 10:01am
I find low level adventures more interesting. People don't simply step on traps because their uber character "can take it", and any fight is a challenge.

Baldur's Gate is a place on the map of Faerum, people. In fact, it didn't even appear in SoA or ToB. Thinking that a game without Bhaalspawn cannot be called "Baldur's Gate" is very narrow minded.

On the other hand, if it does not relate to the Bhaalspawn saga (either as a prequel, or a sequel), it should not include the "3" in the title.

Elfen Lied
Wed, 19th Sep '07, 11:05am
Thinking that a game without Bhaalspawn cannot be called "Baldur's Gate" is very narrow minded.
those BG games on console (Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance) dont have Bhaalspawns in them do they? so why couldnt one on PC


The hobbit is the prequel to LOTR, but its almost like its own book, why couldnt a new game be like that? it can be part of the series (some how not sure how though), but works perfectly fine as a seperate entity

Halasz
Mon, 24th Sep '07, 12:11am
I wouldn't mind seeing a Prequel that included the likes of Gorion, the Mirrorshades, Firkragg(sp?:S) and other various characters which tie into the plot before you were raised (or even born). Sure, we all know how it ends, but there could be quests like trying to track down Sarevok in Baldur's Gate. I would much rather have a prequel over a sequel...just my thoughts.

Elfen Lied
Mon, 24th Sep '07, 3:58am
I really just want a new game in the BG series on PC, it doesnt really have to be part of the Bhaalspawn saga, but a new game that is as huge and as well thought out in terms of story and characters as the original series was.

the ones on console were ok, butthey could have been better.

Giles Barskins
Mon, 24th Sep '07, 9:54pm
I would like it if in the BG prequel they could explain how you got your Bhaalspawn powers in the first place. I don't know... maybe like having some sort of microscopic critter in your blood that makes you be able to do magic things. I think an explanation along those lines would be just perfect. :rolleyes:

[ September 24, 2007, 23:06: Message edited by: Giles Barskins ]

Elfen Lied
Mon, 24th Sep '07, 10:36pm
its more like how a gene is passed from one generation to the next, rather than a "bug" or other microscopical creature or thing

omnigodly
Sat, 29th Sep '07, 11:07pm
It's explained in the game as the "essence" of Bhaal giving you the power. Depending on your alignment you bend it to be anywhere from chaotic evil abilities to lawful good (cure light wounds to Larilocs(SP) minor drain). It's all explained and covered in the BG1.

A BG game (not titled BG3 maybe), but still containing BG in the name would be nice to see. Especially if it was a campaign setting that covered the history of Baldur's Gate or it's various involvement with so many of the other city-states in the region, like Waterdeep. Both cities combined forces multiple times to fight off everything from troll armies to goblin+devil armies.

If it's a BG3 prequel then it would be neat to play as one of the many groups getting involved with Bhaal's plots. Maybe a path to be one of his followers or someone like Gorion, who steps in to prevent massacres from occuring.

Elfen Lied
Sun, 30th Sep '07, 1:46am
A BG game (not titled BG3 maybe), but still containing BG in the name would be nice to see. Especially if it was a campaign setting that covered the history of Baldur's Gate or it's various involvement with so many of the other city-states in the region, like Waterdeep. Both cities combined forces multiple times to fight off everything from troll armies to goblin+devil armies.this idea seems the most logical/possible i think. some game that has BG in the title but isnt part of the bhaalspawn saga, like the BG: Dark Alliance series on console were.

omnigodly
Sun, 30th Sep '07, 9:03am
I think one of the main issues with trying to get a good immersive and expansive game these days is cost though. You'll never see games like BG and PS:T and FO2 because unlike then, the cost of adding content that may not be discovered isn't worth it. Too much is being put into graphics because people can't seem to play games unless they are state-of-the-art in appearance. So a new BG game would definately turn out to be a NWN2 type flop, despite the opportunity for a really good plot hook.

Elfen Lied
Sun, 30th Sep '07, 10:25pm
Too much is being put into graphics because people can't seem to play games unless they are state-of-the-art in appearance.thats what i cant stand, im just as, if not more content playing BGII than i am playing WOW or GW, or even NWN to a lesser extent.

So a new BG game would definately turn out to be a NWN2 type flop, despite the opportunity for a really good plot hook. prehaps you are right, still is it wrong to dream?

omnigodly
Mon, 1st Oct '07, 8:08am
Never wrong to dream!

I've put a lot of my own hopes and dreams up on many of these BG3 topics, honestly I hope to see a BG game that ties into say... an entirely new series involving ohhhh, Waterdeep? Or the Lords Alliance?

Maybe an adventure that starts you off in Baldur's Gate and ties you into a series of events taking place in Thay, or Cormyr, maybe even CHULT!

So we would be putting into the Unreleased forum topics, "Silverymoon Adventures" followed by "Silverymoon Adventures: Fate of the North" ya know? ;)

Black Magician Girl
Mon, 1st Oct '07, 9:23am
Actually, a BG game navigating your trials after godhood sounds like it'd be pretty fun.

Or maybe instead of a prequel or sequel, just remake the entire series, with updated graphics and more plot/choices. While the game was pretty freeform, I feel that some of the choices the Bhaalspawn faced were too black and white - not enough neutral or chaotic choices.

Elfen Lied
Mon, 1st Oct '07, 9:57pm
Maybe an adventure that starts you off in Baldur's Gate and ties you into a series of events taking place in Thay, or Cormyr, maybe even CHULT!yep sounds good to me.

blob
Wed, 3rd Oct '07, 12:18pm
are you guys saying there's still hope for bg3? and is it actually related to previous bg1 and bg2? I heard the original bg3 wasnt related to bhaalspawn saga at all.

Elfen Lied
Wed, 3rd Oct '07, 9:43pm
not quite sure how it could be a prequel or sequel to the bhaalspawn series and not be releated to it.

im not saying its not possible, but i think it might have to have something to do with the events in or before the game.

but some kind of other game set in baldur's gate seems more probable. they have them for console why not PC?

Killjoy
Thu, 4th Oct '07, 7:24am
In a prequel, you could play as a CHARNAME who was an adventuring companion to a young Gorion. You wouldn't have to be a Bhaalspawn, in fact, you could be a regular human/elf/dwarf/gnome/half-orc adventurer entrusted to defend the baby CHARNAME of BG1 with young Gorion. You would probably have to die at the end, though, along with the rest of the party, other than Gorion (who flees to Candlekeep).

For the record, there's no way in hell an official BG3 will come out short of Sawyer's NWN2 mod, assuming that doesn't get killed by the lawyers.

Elfen Lied
Thu, 4th Oct '07, 7:33am
For the record, there's no way in hell an official BG3 will come out short of Sawyer's NWN2 mod, assuming that doesn't get killed by the lawyers. sadly you are probably right.

a game lick Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance for PC seems more likely.

like BG: DA in the sense it has BG in the title but has nothing to do with the Bhaalspawn series.

BlckDeth
Sun, 14th Oct '07, 6:30am
I like the idea of you being Gorion's protege. Perhaps his companion prior to CHARNAME being born? Or perhaps even Gorion himself? Either one would make for a suitable adventure.

Just no Dark Alliance mash-ups, please.

Elfen Lied
Sun, 14th Oct '07, 6:41am
of course not. it more likely to be its one series of games with the BG name attached, like how the DA games were, part of but not part of the series.

lol im kinda talking about seperate games, i dont think you could get a direct prequel (or sequel) to BG, but prehaps something like IWD, it happened before the event in BG1, and IWDII happens after the events of TOB, so you could argue IWD is the prequel and IWDII is the sequel.