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Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 3:46pm
What fantasy sports do you play? For the uninitiated: Fantasy sports are a game played by a group of people (usually friends) in which they pick players from various real teams to complete on their fantasy teams. Based upon the players performance in real life sports, he scores points for your fantasy team.

Example: I play fantasy football (NFL). My starting quarterback is Trent Green of the Kansas City Chiefs. If Trent Green throws a touchdown pass on Sunday, his team will score 6 points. Since he is on my fantasy team, my fantasy team will also score 6 points. Get it?

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Poll Results: Fantasy Sports (13 votes.)

Fantasy Sports (Choose 9)
* Football (American, Gridiron, etc.) - 31% (4)
* Football (Soccer) - 23% (3)
* Baseball - 15% (2)
* Basketball - 8% (1)
* Hockey - 23% (3)
* Rugby - 15% (2)
* Golf - 0% (0)
* Auto racing (most notably NASCAR) - 0% (0)
* Other (specify below) - 15% (2)
* I am not interested in participating in any fantasy sport. - 23% (3)

Register
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 3:58pm
I'm interested in playing a Football game, but the only one that I've heard of is Hattrick, and it blows.

Djieff
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 5:17pm
Hockey pools, as we call them, are very popular around here. Almost every office has one.

Pac man
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 5:20pm
I'm involved in three fantasyleagues over on another board, NFL, NHL, and NBA. All leagues are customleagues on Yahoo.

It's the second year in a row that we're playing with the same group of people, and so far i haven't won much, but i guess that's because i don't check out my rosters often enough. I should be doing that at least twice a week, but i probably check once or twice every three weeks. :shake:

Felinoid
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 6:13pm
None. The closest I come is playing out a franchise in Madden NFL.

Barmy Army
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 7:38pm
If by 'Fantasy sports' you mean the same thing I do, then I have several fantasy football sides on different sites and in papers. It's great fun.

Klorox
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 8:07pm
I'm big into fantasy baseball.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 13th Oct '05, 8:12pm
@Barmy Army - I probably do mean the same thing as you. Like I described, basically a game amoungst friends where you pick real athletes for your "team", and there performance in real life is translated into points for your "team".

Benan
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 1:32am
Football and hockey

Morgoroth
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 2:06am
I don't play any fantasy sports, I have tried hockey and football but found them both awfully boring after a while.

olimikrig
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 2:43am
Every year one of the major newspapers here holds a manager game, where you play as the manager of a custom made football (soccer) team in the danish league. I usually make such a team (though I never get far), regardles, it is much fun :)

DarkStrider
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 1:18pm
I play NFL, Baseball, football and cricket. All of which are fun though only on the football did I win anything, when I was runner-up in the FA Cup.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 3:16pm
Cricket. Now there's one I never even thought of. I suppose you can translate pretty much any given sport into a fantasy sport, but it never occured to me taht cricket was a possibility. Does anyone besides the English play cricket with any regularity? It would be interesting to know if other people know of other "niche" sports that have fantasy leagues.

Barmy Army
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 7:18pm
Cricket a niche sport? Tssh, Americans! :lol:

English, pretty much Asian countries (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc.), New Zealand, West Indies, Australia etc. all play it. Plus many others.

Cricket is a fantastic sport. Anyone who doesn't know it should really takle time out to take an interest. Great game.

Pac man
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 9:20pm
Yeah, but i'd like to go home after an hour or two, cricket can go on for days. :D

Undertaker
Fri, 14th Oct '05, 9:29pm
This idea is new to me. So I don't play fantasy sports :p

Barmy Army
Sat, 15th Oct '05, 1:18am
Yeah, but i'd like to go home after an hour or two, cricket can go on for days. [Big Grin] Ah but you see, that's part of why it's such a quality sport mate. You take your mates along and make a whole day of it. You sit around all day chanting songs, getting drunk and watching a relaxing game of cricket :) . You can't beat it, really can't.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Mon, 24th Oct '05, 9:32pm
Sorry - but I've been away from this thread too long. I will defend to the death that cricket is very much a niche sport. While I am sure that many people are quite fanatical about it, it doesn't have anywhere near the world-wide appeal of other sports. Just to wit:

Football (European version) has to be the #1 sport in the world. That having been said, the NFL (American football) is extremely popular as well. Basketball is also more popular, as is baseball (practically everyone in North America, South America and the Far East plays it), golf, and hockey (when speaking of any nation in the northern hemisphere anyway).

Sorry on the world list, I think cricket would have a hard time cracking the top 10 list. That's a niche sport.

Harbourboy
Tue, 25th Oct '05, 12:06am
Excuse me. I would suggest that there are significantly more cricket players in the world than NFL players. Actually, there are probably more cricket players in India alone than there are people in the USA. And there are certainly more cricket fans in India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh than there are people in the whole of North America. That's without even including England, Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, South Africa, and the West Indies which are the other main cricketing countries. And cricket is far and away the #1 sport in many of those countries (as opposed to just being one of many).

Just because a sport is not popular in USA, does not make it niche. In fact, it would be much easier to argue that NFL is a niche sport because it is only played properly in one country.

Anyway, back on topic, I play fantasy rugby union and fantasy cricket, but I'm rubbish and never win anything. Cricket is a perfect fantasy sport because, like baseball, it has almost unlimited statistical potential and each player has an easily measurable contribution to the team result (unlike, say soccer, where it might be difficult to measure the contribution of hard working midfielder who doesn't score or directly assist in the scoring of goals).

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Tue, 25th Oct '05, 8:56pm
I'm sorry, I didn't qualify my response properly. I was not basing this strictly on the number of people who compete in a particular sport. It is undoubtedly true that there are more cricket players than NFL players as the NFL consists of 32 teams with 53 players on each team.

My assessment was based upon was the number of people who are interested in, and follow a particular sport. The NFL has TV contracts with so many different countries, I wouldn't even want to guess at the number. The NFL is extremely popular in Mexico, and the majority of South America. You can get the NFL Sunday Ticket in Japan, South Korea, and a host of other Asian countries. It's also popular in the Middle East, with both Iran and Israel having TV contracts. It is also my understanding that while the NFL doesn't compare to soccer in most European countries, in is still very popular.

I don't think I have to defend a sport like basketball, as that is clearly played all over the world. Maybe I was harsh in stating that cricket wouldn't make the top 10 in most popular world sports, but I do not think it ranks among the elite in terms of popularity.

Barmy Army
Tue, 25th Oct '05, 10:36pm
NFL isn't popular in Europe. I know nobody who watches it. I know very few people who have actually ever watched it once before in their life. I don't think I've ever even noticed it on the TV listings (and that includes Sky channels).

If you're measuring popularity in terms of worldwide following, then cricket is a more popular sport than NFL. Cricket is NOT a niché sport, I reckon this belief stems from the sport getting very little (if any) coverage in the Americas. But don't let that confuse you, cricket is an extremely popular sport in many, many places.

Morgoroth
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 12:21am
Aldeth you're really pushing the limits of ignorance now you know. As far as I know crickett is significantly more popular than baseball on the international level, and by the way, no one in europe watches NFL or plays it. ;)

It would be nice to see a list of the most viewed sports around the world, I saw one 98 or so when Football (European) was number 1 and Formula 1 was second but I'm not sure if Formula 1 is that high anymore, it's a sport that is watched all around the world though just like football, but with the recent domination of Ferrari and claims about the sport getting more and more booring it might not be all that popular anymore.

Harbourboy
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 12:35am
Aldeth, as I mentioned in my previous post, any assessment on the popularity of sports based on the number of people who watch or follow the sport would have to take into consideration the fact that India is the second most populous nation on Earth. And cricket is their number one sport by a mile. So right of the bat (no pun intended), you have 1 billion cricket fans just in one country. Cricket is almost like a religion in India.

So it would easily be on the top 5 to 10 team sports in the world. The others would include soccer, baseball, and basketball but I wouldn’t want to try and guess what else would be up there. I guess NFL and Ice hockey would also be in the top 10. Maybe another thread is required to try and work out what the top 10 most popular team sports are in the world.

Anyway, back on topic (again), cricket is a great fantasy sport (and probably one of the biggest in the world because, yes, those Indians just love fantasy sport

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 2:08pm
OK, I will concede that my knowledge of cricket, and the frequency of which it is played around the world is extremely limited. Having never been to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, South Africa, or the West Indies, it is fair to say that I am not in a position to speak for these people as to what their favorite sport is.

However, if all we are doing is asking with what frequency people play or participate in sports, then the most popular sports world-wide would have to include things like golf or skiing. There are millions (if not billions) around the world that participate in these sports, even though (at least for skiing) I'd be hard pressed to come up with more than half a dozen people who professionally compete in these sports.

I still have one remaining question to everyone who says no one in Europe watches the NFL. How do you explain this? (http://www.nfleurope.com/) Are they imaginary players and people in the stands?

DarkStrider
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 3:20pm
I still have one remaining question to everyone who says no one in Europe watches the NFL. How do you explain this? Are they imaginary players and people in the stands? Could the words USAF bases explain it; I watch the NFL I support the Giants, but NFL europe I don't bother with and I don't know anybody who does.

I'm also the only person I know who watches the NFL.

Morgoroth
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 4:50pm
Probably not, my no one was not as in zero but more like "no one" in the practical sense. It probably has some popularity in Germany but that's about it though and I doubt that even in Germany it's among the most popular of sports. NFL is not in the top twenty of sports watched in Europe, of that I'm pretty sure.

EDIT: Btw, did you actually notice the amount of teams they have in NFL Europe. It's six, SIX for crying out loud. I think that in itself tells somethin about its popularity don't you think? ;)

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 6:49pm
To an extent it certainly does, but the point is that the NFL Europe has been around for several years now, and since the NFL (in the US) pays the operating costs, they wouldn't still be paying for NFL Europe if it wasn't turning a profit. I'm not saying that the NFL is wildly popular in Europe, but I was under the impression that the NFL was about as popular in Europe as soccer is in the US.

In the US, there is a soccer league, and it is quite popular. It's certainly not on the level of football, baseball or basketball, but it has about the same fan support (in numbers not in the exact same people) as does hockey. But because it isn't AS BIG as those other sports, there are a limited number of teams (8 IIRC). Soccer would definitely make the list of top 10 most popular sports in the US (although cricket would not).

Harbourboy
Wed, 26th Oct '05, 10:23pm
The USA does have an international cricket team, though, and they have played in the World Cup occasionally (the Cricket World Cup being a bit like the soccer one, in that you have to qualify to make the main event). In fact, USA holds the distinction of having been involved in the very first ever international cricket match when they played against Canada some time in the 19th century.

Hmm, my impression would be that soccer is vastly more popular in the USA than NFL is in Europe. I know that loads of kids play soccer in the USA and I have heard of some of the international US players (like that goalkeeper Keiller who used to play in England). But I had never even heard of NFL Europe.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 27th Oct '05, 3:05pm
@HB - If kids ran the country, soccer would no doubt make the top three of most popular sports in America. And I think that's part of it's problem. While I do not count myself among their number, a great many people in America still look at soccer as being "a kid's game".

Morgoroth
Thu, 27th Oct '05, 5:34pm
It's the youth who most often form the core of most sports so I fail to see how that's a problem. Anyway the youth are not so interested in NFL in Europe, its popularity is probably growing but it's still way behind the traditional European sports allthough I can safely say that in continental europe people are more interested in American Football than they are cricket. Sure American Football has its fans even in here and sure NFL Europe must have a group of faithful followers but when you look at the teams you see that they are all (except one) from Germany, and I'm quite sure that's the only country in Europe where the game is moderately popular.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Fri, 28th Oct '05, 2:50pm
It's the youth who most often form the core of most sports so I fail to see how that's a problem. I thought this too, and I predicted that soccer's popularity in the states would soar by the time I reached adulthood. My reasoning was that when I was a kid soccer was then taking off as a very popular youth sport. I played until I reached my teens. I felt that with soccer youth leagues springing up all over the country, that when these kids eventually became adults, that soccer would become very popular. Well, now we're 20 years later, all these kids are now adults, and soccer is still a marginal sport in the U.S.

Barmy Army
Fri, 28th Oct '05, 5:26pm
'Soccer' is getting more and more popular in the US each year, and I think you know it too.
The US has some great kids in their U19 etc. sides (Mr. Adu in particular should get a move into Europe before long and improve his game and he may become a good player) and I predict that they will win the World Cup some time in the next 20 years.
The US people are taking more and more of an interest in football, I know that talking to other yanks I know.

The Great Snook
Fri, 28th Oct '05, 5:47pm
As a coach of a U10 boys team I can tell you it is very popular up to a point. When these kids were in U6-U8 there were ten teams. Now at U10 there are six and from what I hear when they move up further the number of teams dwindle as the boys move on to other sports (primarily lacrosse, baseball, and football) and other things (getting jobs and most importantly girls).

Now on the girls side it is different, but they tend to have fewer options. We currently have twelve girls U10 teams and they are going strong.

I forgot to mention, these are the intramural teams and do not include the travel teams.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Mon, 31st Oct '05, 5:46pm
'Soccer' is getting more and more popular in the US each year, and I think you know it too. Compared to what it was, it definitely is more popular. However, once again this year another one of the teams in the profession soccer league folded, because it wasn't making any money. I don't know if the issue is interest, marketing, or exposure, but for whatever reason, people are taking their disposal income to sporting events other than soccer. In the U.S., sporting is definitely focused on the "Big 3" which is without doubt football, baseball, and basketball.