View Full Version : How about a Different WC for Football?


Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 5:16pm
Here's an idea let's have an American Football WC. We'll start Peyton Manning as our QB (but I'd settle for Brady), LT and Shaun Alexander would be our starting RBs. WRs will go to Steve Smith and Marvin Harrison (Chad Johnson will be 3rd receiver for passing downs). Our TE will be Antonio Gates.

The Europeans will have to settle for whoever they get from NFL Europe. Oh wait. 90% of the NFL Europe players are Americans that weren't good enough to start in the NFL.

I know it's complete fantasy, and this will never happen as the rest of the world views American football... well... pretty much the way Americans view soccer.

Harbourboy
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 7:10pm
Which is why we will never take American Football seriously as a sport, because it's only played properly in one country.

Barmy Army
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 7:59pm
Rest of world likes one sport.
America 'has' to like others

Say's alot in itself.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:14pm
Which is made even stranger when one considers that the population of the U.S. consists almost entirely of immigrants from other countries where soccer is the most popular sport.

Barmy Army
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:16pm
Almost entirely???

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:21pm
Almost entirely??? Yes. The ones that aren't immigrants are called "Native Americans". Or sometimes "Native American Indians". Perhaps you've heard of them. There's approximately 4.5 million of them living in the U.S. according to the most recent census data.

And that doesn't even include those of African American decent which, for the most part, cannot be considered "immigrants" as their anscestors were brought to the U.S. against their will.

Barmy Army
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:25pm
So you don't think peiople who moved to the US YEARS ago have assimilated and become 'proper Americans'? How long does someone need to live in the US before they are noe longer called immigrants? I'm sure people from most nations can trace the ancestries back to other countries.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:30pm
Most Americans know their past heritage and ethnicity - you may find this shocking - but it's true. For example, while I consider myself an American, and am thus "assimilated", I also realize that my ethnic background lies primarily in Italy and Czechoslovakia. There's countless people in the U.S. who describe themselves as Irish, or Polish, or Italian, or German, or whatever, and many people who do that have never even been to Ireland, Poland, Italy, or Germany. I'm not saying it makes total sense, but just because you're assimilated doesn't mean that you don't consider your background. There's very few people who if you asked them their ethnicity would reply "American".

Barmy Army
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:37pm
Just because you 'consider your background' doesn't mean that you take interest in things that people from from the 'mother country' take interest in. If you're brought up in the US, then you're going to take interest in the local popular sports. If football had more coverage in the US then it would get more popular.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:44pm
Every match in the WC is being televised on a major network in the U.S. In fact, you don't even need to have cable to see most of the matches, but everyone with even basic cable gets ESPN, which is also carrying a bunch of matches. Also the Germans are being so nice to even play the matches when we're awake. Most of the matches don't even start until mid afternoon, so that's late morning for us. Still 240 million out of 300 million Americans aren't watching the WC.

Barmy Army
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 8:54pm
That's because football gets no other coverage in the US. It's like expecting Britain to take interest in the Superbowl when it's televised.

Bahir the Red
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 10:02pm
Which is why we will never take American Football seriously as a sport, because it's only played properly in one country. Which country would that be? Surely not the one where they take timeouts between each play, and where the coaches direct the players through a microphone?

Oh, and yes, the true americans are the "indians", that came to America waaaaay before the europeans, africans and asians.

Would you, for example, say that a group of africans living on Greenland for the past 300 years can be called greenlanders? Or a group of mongolians living in Zimbabwe for as long a time, that they can be called zimbabwians? I doubt it.

Pac man
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 10:17pm
Just for the record, the Amsterdam Admirals made American Football more popular in the Netherlands than you could possibly imagine. They attract a decent amount of spectators when they play at home (which is the Amsterdam Arena, home of AFC Ajax), and have made 3 Worldbowl appearances so far, last year they won it for the first time. American Football is one of the fastest growing sports overhere.

Harbourboy
Thu, 15th Jun '06, 10:33pm
Which is fine, because American Football is still a good sport and I don't mind watching it.