View Full Version : Lakota Tribe Declares Independence?


The Shaman
Fri, 21st Dec '07, 3:33am
Technically, this may belong to the AoLS, but it seems more curiosity than politics to me. Anyway, take a look at this: http://nz.news.yahoo.com/071220/8/3db9.html

Descendants of Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse break away from US
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Lakota Indians, who gave the world legendary warriors Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse, have withdrawn from treaties with the United States, leaders said Wednesday.

"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us," long-time Indian rights activist Russell Means told a handful of reporters and a delegation from the Bolivian embassy, gathered in a church in a run-down neighborhood of Washington for a news conference.

A delegation of Lakota leaders delivered a message to the State Department on Monday, announcing they were unilaterally withdrawing from treaties they signed with the federal government of the United States, some of them more than 150 years old.

They also visited the Bolivian, Chilean, South African and Venezuelan embassies, and will continue on their diplomatic mission and take it overseas in the coming weeks and months, they told the news conference.

Lakota country includes parts of the states of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming.

The new country would issue its own passports and driving licences, and living there would be tax-free -- provided residents renounce their US citizenship, Means said.

The treaties signed with the United States are merely "worthless words on worthless paper," the Lakota freedom activists say on their website.

The treaties have been "repeatedly violated in order to steal our culture, our land and our ability to maintain our way of life," the reborn freedom movement says.

Withdrawing from the treaties was entirely legal, Means said.

"This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of the constitution," which states that treaties are the supreme law of the land, he said.

"It is also within the laws on treaties passed at the Vienna Convention and put into effect by the US and the rest of the international community in 1980. We are legally within our rights to be free and independent," said Means.
The Lakota relaunched their journey to freedom in 1974, when they drafted a declaration of continuing independence -- an overt play on the title of the United States' Declaration of Independence from England.

Thirty-three years have elapsed since then because "it takes critical mass to combat colonialism and we wanted to make sure that all our ducks were in a row," Means said.

One duck moved into place in September, when the United Nations adopted a non-binding declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples -- despite opposition from the United States, which said it clashed with its own laws.

"We have 33 treaties with the United States that they have not lived by. They continue to take our land, our water, our children," Phyllis Young, who helped organize the first international conference on indigenous rights in Geneva in 1977, told the news conference.

The US "annexation" of native American land has resulted in once proud tribes such as the Lakota becoming mere "facsimiles of white people," said Means.

Oppression at the hands of the US government has taken its toll on the Lakota, whose men have one of the shortest life expectancies -- less than 44 years -- in the world.

Lakota teen suicides are 150 percent above the norm for the United States; infant mortality is five times higher than the US average; and unemployment is rife, according to the Lakota freedom movement's website.

"Our people want to live, not just survive or crawl and be mascots," said Young.

"We are not trying to embarrass the United States. We are here to continue the struggle for our children and grandchildren," she said, predicting that the battle would not be won in her lifetime

Nakia
Fri, 21st Dec '07, 5:48am
Interesting article. I wonder what the US Government's reaction is and will be. If the government tries to stop this by force I believe that there will be a serious international backlash.

I don't know how official it is but the Hopi Indians have kept themselves a separate Nation refusing to participate as citizens of the USA. Of course individuals have been acclimated but the group as a whole rejects the 'Westernisation' of their culture.

Who is next? Navajos, Cherokees?

Taluntain
Fri, 21st Dec '07, 11:58am
I don't think that this will be much more of an embarrassment to the US than any other "Oddly Enough" news. Declaring independence is a good idea and all, but unless the majority of the countries around the world recognize their independence it's the same as if they hadn't done it.

And I seriously doubt anyone but Chavez and the like are going to recognize this self-proclaimed Swiss in the middle of the US.

I can't even find any mention of it in any of the regular online media, which illustrates how seriously this is being taken.

Aikanaro
Fri, 21st Dec '07, 1:01pm
Good on them. Any idea how independent they actually are in terms of resources and such though? After all, if they don't have the means to produce what they need and have to import it all (from the US, no doubt), then there's little point because they're still just as tied to the US as they were before. If they're self-sufficient, then that's awesome, and good luck to them.

AMaster
Fri, 21st Dec '07, 1:26pm
I see more nuclear testing in the immediate future.

There wasn't nuclear testing in the Dakotas? There will be now. Just you wait.

Morgoroth
Fri, 21st Dec '07, 2:25pm
I heard from somewhere there were nuclear silos within Lakota terretories, is this actually true? Would be interesting for them to instantly become a nuclear power!

The chances of them succeeding in achieving anything is zero. I doubt the US government even needs to use any sort of force, there are like 9000 of them and they are scattered around the terretory so the chances of them succesfully forming any sort of economy is incredibly slim, let alone building up anything else needed independence.

Merlanni
Sat, 22nd Dec '07, 2:26pm
And yet they appear to have that right. Nice, but what if others tribes do the same? There must be some supreme court to deal whit this, perhaps even the UN. I just want to know what is going to happen next. I think that bush is not going to pull the troops back to deal whit this yet.

I hope they succeed and some nations have the balls to recognize them as a state.

Morgoroth
Sat, 22nd Dec '07, 8:12pm
That will be up to the UN security council, in which I see the amount of countries willing to recognize this ridiculous claim to be zero, this will not even be brought up to the security council. In fact I think this is just a desperate attempt to bring up the troubles these people are expiriencing to the mainstream media. I can't believe that the Lakota leaders are so stupid as to believe that this has any chances of succeeding.

In any case I hope it will help the public to pay some attention to their woes and get some initiatives from the deciders to improve the situation.