View Full Version : Leaving reputation


The Great Snook
Sat, 29th Mar '08, 2:53pm
I'm curious as to how people leave reputation

Splunge
Sat, 29th Mar '08, 4:51pm
I didn't answer, because it depends on who I'm giving it to.

If I'm giving rep to an SPS account holder, I don't bother to leave my name because SPS members can see who gave them rep points anyway.

If to a non-SPS member, then I usually will now (assuming I remember). I didn't used to, because I thought it was kind of putting the other person on the spot to return the "favour", but then I thought it was kind of like giving a gift, and I always put my name on gifts I give. I don't expect people to give me rep points just because it gave them some.

What I try to do is give an indication why I'm giving rep points (unless the reason is fairly obvious).

Morgoroth
Sat, 29th Mar '08, 5:02pm
I don't use the feature out of principle. I simply don't like this sort of ranking. Of course most seem to pretty much ignore it anyhow and the feature has so far been quite irrelevant which I'm quite happy for. :)

Splunge
Sat, 29th Mar '08, 5:16pm
It's not really a ranking. It's just a way to let people know you liked one of their posts.

And if you think that "Rep Power" is a ranking, that's not really accurate. The factors in determining rep power are number of posts, length of time as a member, and rep points received.

Ziad
Sat, 29th Mar '08, 7:37pm
I've not really used the feature. If I like someone's post and have a comment I'll get into the discussion, if it's just to say "I like the way you think" I'll send a private message (though I do the former far more often). I don't have anything against the reputation system, and wouldn't go so far as to disable it or campaign against it, but it's just not one of the features I personally find useful (though I understand many people do like it).

Iku-Turso
Sun, 30th Mar '08, 1:06pm
Huh? You can leave reputation? My rep's been following me around wherever I go...

Morgoroth
Sun, 30th Mar '08, 1:35pm
As Ziad pointed out if you like someone's post especially much you might as well bother posting it and telling them (and everyone else) about it. I've seen some truly childish abuse of similar systems in other forums and though I'm quite certain that the regulars around here are mature enough to abstain from such behaviour I simply don't see much benefit from the system.

Taluntain
Sun, 30th Mar '08, 4:56pm
The way we have it set up here, it's very difficult to abuse it, and practically impossible without me noticing it. So there really shouldn't be any impediments to anyone using it. Especially since it can be turned off and on at any point for any user.

Aikanaro
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 9:24am
I don't use it, because it's not a useful feature. Plus, I agree with Morgoroth anyway, so even if it did serve some purpose, I still wouldn't use it :p

Iku-Turso
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 12:00pm
Oh, as a person who writes and fiddles with words I think it has it's uses...

Erod
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 4:53pm
Hmm, I did not realise you could give reputation points. I was wondering what it exactly does when I disabled it from the profile. Now that I think of it, it is good that I disabled it, mainly because of the same reasons that has been said already. It would be great if it would also remove the whole Rep line from view. The poll should also have a question if you leave reputation at all :-).

Barmy Army
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 4:59pm
I wish everyone could see who left them reputation. It's only fair in my eyes. Someone pointlessly and needlessly left me a nasty one. Obviously some idiot who's jealous of my good looks and charm, but it's still not nice.

Death Rabbit
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 5:15pm
Just for that, Barmy, I'm going to leave you a negative reputation, and I'm not going to tell you that it was me.

The Great Snook
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 6:37pm
Hmm, I did not realise you could give reputation points. I was wondering what it exactly does when I disabled it from the profile. Now that I think of it, it is good that I disabled it, mainly because of the same reasons that has been said already. It would be great if it would also remove the whole Rep line from view. The poll should also have a question if you leave reputation at all :-).

I admit, I wanted to make a multi question poll, but I obviously didn't set it up correctly.

Another questions I wanted to add was "Do you ever leave negative comments?" Personally, I don't think I ever would. I can't imagine ever getting that upset with a post that I would do so.

Giles Barskins
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 7:54pm
BA, I too have gotten a nasty rep post. I guess that sometimes when you do something as awful as ::gasp:: disagree with someone here you deserve all the hate they have to give.

henkie
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 9:09pm
Interesting topic. It was only yesterday, when I was making some changes to my profile to show more than the active threads in the last two weeks (which makes some forums look decidedly empty), that I noticed that I had 19 reputation points to give away. "How curious," I thought, "so that's where all these reputation thingies come from." I also saw that there was a specific post which caused my reputation to gain a point, and I suppose I can guess by whom it was given.

All in all, though, it feels a bit superfluous and even though it apparently wasn't intended to be a sort of ranking system, it does feel that way. Why make it visible for evermore that you once found a that someone made a good point, was helpful or whatever? What's the added value? Why not make a post in the respective thread, PM or make a mental note?

In all my ignorance of this topic, I suppose it's not strange that I never realised that you could give negative reputation points too. Can your Rep Power go negative as well?

To return to the poll question of this topic, I suppose that option C would be most appropriate: I don't use the Rep Power system.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 9:41pm
I didn't know you had a limit on how many rep points you had until now. Evidently, I have a backlog of 44 points to give away! I better get cracking!

As an aside, I can see where a lot of people did something to me reputation, but if they don't leave a comment, how can you tell if it was a positive or negative one?

EDIT: Also, evidently no one identifies themselves - I see no way when I leave someone a rep point of whether or not to identify myself, and none of the people who added to my rep identified themselves either.

Barmy Army
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 10:30pm
I don't think I've ever left anyone a rep. I don't remember doing it anyway. It's not as if I think it's pointless, it's a good feature, I'm just incredibly lazy. I've gotten a few though. Some negative, some positive. Some love me, some hate me, as it should be!

Splunge
Mon, 31st Mar '08, 10:34pm
I didn't know you had a limit on how many rep points you had until now. Evidently, I have a backlog of 44 points to give away! I better get cracking

No no no! (Also directed at henkie).

You don't accumulate rep points that you then give away. The rep points that you get are given to you by others. The number of rep points that you receive from another person is equal to that person's rep power at the time they give you the points.

You can give other people rep points as many times as you want (subject to Board limitations, such as you can't give same same person rep points twice in a row). Again, the rep points you give each time are equal to your rep power. You aren't limited on the rep points you can give by the rep points received.

Rep power is determined by your number of posts (1 per 1000), length of time as a member (1 per year), and rep points received (1 per 100).

As an aside, I can see where a lot of people did something to me reputation, but if they don't leave a comment, how can you tell if it was a positive or negative one?

Positive has a green box, negative is red.

I see no way when I leave someone a rep point of whether or not to identify myself, and none of the people who added to my rep identified themselves either

You can identify yourself in the comments box.

And no, I don't give negative rep points; if I have an issue with someone's post, I'd rather address that in the relevant thread or by PM.

revmaf
Fri, 4th Apr '08, 7:56pm
Well, I learned more than I knew about this rep points thing, and though I am aware of problems in other forums with ratings systems, I agree this isn't that kind of system. I sometimes use it for positive points but avoid negative points - it's been months since I've seen a post on this forum I thought was bad enough to report as abusive and that would be the only kind I would rate negatively, because I like having a place where people can politely express different viewpoints. I often don't particularly agree with a post, or find it interesting, but I'm sure other members sometimes have that reaction to my posts.

Normally I don't leave a comment when I give a point because I'll post a reply if I have much of anything to say (and sometimes when I don't have much of anything to say, of course).

Harbourboy
Sat, 5th Apr '08, 10:20am
I didn't know that you could identify yourself. How do you even find out whether someone has left you any rep points or comments?

Trellheim
Sat, 5th Apr '08, 10:44am
@Harbl, go to your user CP, in the middle of the page there should be "Latest Reputation Received" +Thread / Date / Comment.

Taluntain
Sat, 5th Apr '08, 4:01pm
Link: http://www.sorcerers.net/forums/usercp.php

Rotku
Sat, 5th Apr '08, 11:05pm
Positive has a green box, negative is red.
What about the greyey-bluey ones?

Montresor
Sat, 5th Apr '08, 11:35pm
To the original question: I don't leave my name. I will answer in the tread if I want to tell the poster in question that I approve or disapprove of a post. However, I usually leave a comment to tell why I have added to the poster's reputation.

I have not yet used negative reputation, and I don't expect to. I wouldn't do that except if someone deliberately gave false information or did something that in my opinion should get them sanctioned or banned (in which case the moderators will usually take care of it:)).

What about the greyey-bluey ones?

You get one of those if somebody with reputation power=0 tries to leave you reputation.

T2Bruno
Sun, 6th Apr '08, 2:35am
I've not given a negative. I've only done the reputation a few times and have never left my name.

I've given reputation for statement that I believe displayed a lot of thought (whether or not I agree with the point), was quite astute, or very humorous.

Deathmage
Sun, 6th Apr '08, 2:42am
Huh. I haven't checked back for ages, and suddenly I have 8 reputation points? Nice.

I still don't know how to check who left it, though - I don't see anything of the sort in my User CP. :(

Disciple of The Watch
Sun, 6th Apr '08, 3:08am
Is it possible to review the history of reputation left by other users? Like say, I want to review the history of my 25 rep points?

Blackthorne TA
Sun, 6th Apr '08, 4:53am
Huh. I haven't checked back for ages, and suddenly I have 8 reputation points? Nice.

I still don't know how to check who left it, though - I don't see anything of the sort in my User CP. :(I think what you see is your rep power, not you rep points. When I click on my User CP, the reps others have given me show up right in the middle of the page

Is it possible to review the history of reputation left by other users? Like say, I want to review the history of my 25 rep points?You mean who gave you rep for what post? It's on the User CP page.

Splunge
Sun, 6th Apr '08, 3:49pm
The history doesn't seem to be complete, though. Currently, I can only see the last 5 people who gave me points.

Taluntain
Sun, 6th Apr '08, 6:07pm
It always shows the last 5 rep givers only. And you will only see their names if you are an SPS account holder (if they haven't left their names in the comment itself).

Everyone's reputation power figure is listed in every post they make, below the post count.

You can see your own reputation points by clicking on the reputation icon in your own posts.

Deathmage
Tue, 8th Apr '08, 10:31am
Ahh, right.
How is reputation power accumulated?

(whoa, I have 26 rep points...)

Harbourboy
Tue, 8th Apr '08, 10:45am
(whoa, I have 26 rep points...)

All New Zealanders get instant reputation at birth.

Montresor
Tue, 8th Apr '08, 10:52am
Ahh, right.
How is reputation power accumulated?

(whoa, I have 26 rep points...)

Your reputation power is 0 until you have 50 posts to your credit. After that, you have:

1 point for starters
1 point for each 1,000 posts you have made
1 point for each full year you have been a member
1 point for each 100 reputation points you have.

There might be penalties if your reputation goes below a certain threshold, or other bonuses I'm not aware of.

All New Zealanders get instant reputation at birth.

Yes, but is it positive? :p

Enagonios
Tue, 8th Apr '08, 6:22pm
I don't use the function either. If I liked the post, I usually just say so in my reply in the thread. Likewise if I felt that it was unfair or whatever. Besides, mine doesn't move anyway I think :rolleyes:

Disciple of The Watch
Tue, 8th Apr '08, 11:28pm
I do not use the reputation function either. I did made an exception once and left one point for a very good friend of mine for a statement I wouldn't have said better myself, but other than than, I want no part of the reputation system.

Besides, mine doesn't move anyway I think

Mine either - been stuck at 7 till the new board made it's debut.

Taluntain
Wed, 9th Apr '08, 2:24am
That's your rep power (different from rep points), which changes very slowly. It's explained in the posts above.

Stefanina
Tue, 29th Apr '08, 6:14am
Huh, I never noticed the reputation thing 'til I stumbled across this thread. Seems some people left me good reputation. Thanks :)
Maybe I'll use it a bit now that I know about it.

Tiana
Mon, 12th May '08, 7:34pm
I have to say I don't really agree with the point awards. I've been a lurker here... most of my life, actually, but I don't post very frequently. And now I have a reputation power of 7. :eek:

I don't know, it doesn't seem really fair to the people who participate in the community more.

Taluntain
Mon, 12th May '08, 8:03pm
Rep Power by itself doesn't mean much... if you don't participate in the discussions there's really no chance for others to raise your actual reputation points, so you're at a loss there. Those who participate more have a higher chance of others raising their reputation points.

Tiana
Mon, 12th May '08, 8:27pm
Wait... so I read the FAQ and the Board Rules description of reputation, and I don't think I get the point. Like, what do you *do* with reputation? Other than give other people reputation points. Which then allows them to do... What? Is this just a status thing?

Splunge
Mon, 12th May '08, 9:01pm
The greater your Reputation, the more you can flagrantly violate the Board's rules before incurring the wrath of a moderator/administrator. Basically, Rep acts as a kind of "Amulet of Mod Warding". As proof, notice how high Tal's rep is, and then try to remember the last time he was given a warning.

:p

Blackthorne TA
Mon, 12th May '08, 9:12pm
Stop misleading the until-just-recently-lurkers Splunge! :mad:

There. Thoroughly refuted, since not only did I say your information was misleading, but you have a high reputation yet still incurred my wrath! :lol:

Oh, and yes, reputation is just a popularity contest kind of thing...

Splunge
Mon, 12th May '08, 9:38pm
Bah! My Rep Power isn't very high - it's only 9. So I still stand by my allegation.

:p

Blackthorne TA
Mon, 12th May '08, 11:15pm
No, no, not rep power but reputation... you have 2 green squares and have a spectactular aura about you! :lol:

Splunge
Mon, 12th May '08, 11:31pm
Well, the 2 green squares I understand. But as for the "spectacular aura" - well, let's not go there again. :p

(On a somewhat serious note, are the phrases ("spectualar aura", "famous soon enough", etc.) tied to reputation?)

Blackthorne TA
Mon, 12th May '08, 11:34pm
As far as I'm aware, yes they are.

Kitrax
Mon, 12th May '08, 11:50pm
So what's the difference between Rep Power and the little Green Boxes...or rather...how do you get more than one? :hmm: :rolling:

Splunge
Mon, 12th May '08, 11:55pm
Rep power is a combination of length of time as an SP member, number of posts, and rep points received from others (scroll up for a more detailed explanation by Montresor.

The green boxes relate only to rep points received from others - 1 box to start, and then 1 for every 100 points received.

Kitrax
Tue, 13th May '08, 12:04am
Rep power is a combination of length of time as an SP member, number of posts, and rep points received from others (scroll up for a more detailed explanation by Montresor.

The green boxes relate only to rep points received from others - 1 box to start, and then 1 for every 100 points received.

Oh...I get it now.

So here's another question: When someone leaves rep, how many points does the recipiant get? Is it equal to the giver's rep power, is it scaled...or is it only 1 point? :rolling:

Splunge
Tue, 13th May '08, 12:13am
It's equal to the giver's rep power.

Taluntain
Tue, 13th May '08, 12:16am
It is equal to the rep power. Rep power is the number of reputation points you can give someone else in one go. A basic explanation of reputation (http://www.sorcerers.net/forums/faq.php?faq=vb3_user_profile#faq_vb3_reputation) is in the FAQ now.

Edit: Splunge cut in on me.

Montresor
Tue, 13th May '08, 12:19am
(On a somewhat serious note, are the phrases ("spectualar aura", "famous soon enough", etc.) tied to reputation?)

As far as I'm aware, yes they are.

They are. This is explained here (http://www.sorcerers.net/forums/showpost.php?p=616667&postcount=84).