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Thu, 15th May '03, 10:46pm
I'm further than I ever have been in this game ... but I don't know how to solidify my party.
Right now we are: (forgive spelling)
Iomen (d/c to mage)
We're very light on spell casters. Xan is dead (oops) but all the other NPC's are availible (as far as I know).
I'm not a big Khilad fan and would like to see him meet an untimely accident. Any ideas?
[ May 17, 2003, 20:18: Message edited by: Blackthorne TA ]
Thu, 15th May '03, 11:17pm
Change Mincs to Shar-Teel
Change Khalid to Kagain
Change Ajantis to Montaron
Change Imoen to Edwin
Change Jahiera to Viconia (or Tiax or Quayle for fun)
That is the party I mainly uses
Fri, 16th May '03, 12:19am
Do I have to also change myself from Lawful Good to Chaotic Evil??? :evil: :bang: :good:
Fri, 16th May '03, 12:43am
Evil schmevil. :D Ain't you style, anyway Mat. That said...
Kill Khalid. Immediately. He seemed to fail his moral check and go apesh*t every other battle. He's such a pantywaiste, it really makes Jahiera look bad. So much so it almost makes you feel like a loser when you hook up with her in BG2. If her taste is that bad...what does that say about you? :p
Yeslick is good to have, but I don't know if you want another fighter/cleric.
I really liked Kivan, though I ended up swapping him for Coran when I found him outside the Cloakwood. (more useful and interesting IMO). Both are better in melee than Khalid by far (but really...that ain't sayin' much.)
If you don't have Dynahier in your party and you do have Minsc, then I'm assuming she's dead or you left her in the Gnoll fortress (shame on you!!). So if you don't want to pcik her upl, I won't recommend her. But it looks like you're doing okay with Imoen anyway.
Skye (I think) is a mage you can pick up somewhere in the city of Baldur's Gate, though I don't know how good she is. There's always Quayle, who is slightly interesting to play.
Hope that helps, bro. :thumb:
Fri, 16th May '03, 8:49am
Hmm, I actually like Khalid. He doesn't fail moral checks more than the other characters, at least for me. Their relationship with Jaheira is quite odd, I'll grant that - quite obvious who wears pants in that family... as for Jaheira's taste - hmm, I don't see nothing wrong, maybe he's great in bed? I'm not particularly impressed that people tend to misinterpret poor guy's insecurities and think of him as a coward. He's not.
If you don't like Khalid, then Kivan is a good replacement, IMO. Btw, no need to kill poor Porky Pig (I meant Khalid), just lock him in a house and remove from party. I do it often, since I want to use Jaheira all the time, but not necessarily him...
I strongly dislike Ajantis, and I would pick any other fighter instead of him, but that's just me - I don't particularly like short-sighted paladunces like him.
Where is Dynamo? She's a kickass mage for a good group. Edwin is cool, but evil. As far as I'm concerned, Skie is a thief and Quayle is a village idiot.
I would swap Khalid and Ajantis for Kivan and Dynaheir. Missile attacks > melee in BG1.
Fri, 16th May '03, 1:44pm
Missile attacks > melee in BG1 I'm learning that the hard way. (Can you get that kobald arrow out of my arse?)
I honestly forget what happened to Dynamo. If I lost her, can I re-spawn her using the consul? I can tweek the fighters, but I really need more magic (I think)
Fri, 16th May '03, 5:12pm
No you don't. You need little magic in the whole game.
Fri, 16th May '03, 5:19pm
Really ... I was able to do the lock Kilald in a house (in high hedge) to pick up the K-Ranger.
Maybe dump Anjis for the other Cloakwood ranger and do the full-on missle frenzy?
I hate to admit it, but this game is getting fun!
Sat, 17th May '03, 3:23am
There are endless party combinations in this game, and any and all of them can work well. I've got a four-piece right now, comprised of
My PC, a Halfling Cleric
Imoen (level 7 thief, working her way up as a Conjurer, currently level 6)
I wish I had a stronger tank than Ajantis, but the options are pretty limited. But anyways.
If you took went with -
-you'd do very well and would have no troubles at all. I'd be tempted to swap out Minsc for Yeslick, but then I really don't like Minsc very much, and Yeslick is cool. Nothing wrong with having two Fighter/Clerics, either.
Sat, 17th May '03, 8:45am
Don't think that he needs third healer though. The PC and Jaheira should provide all the healing power that is necessary.
Sat, 17th May '03, 3:50pm
Clerics don't have to be used for healing, but can be used exclusively for buffing and defence. Having one Fighter/Cleric as a dedicated defensive/buffing battery would be quite effective, I think. Leave the healing to the other two.
Sat, 17th May '03, 8:28pm
My party for the moment:
One of the rangers and Ajantis uses crossbows, the other ranger, Kivan and Imoen plays with bows and Edwin goes around with a sling.
Missile weapons are extreamly good in BG1.
Edwin is there only for his ability to use wands.
Besides that mages sucks in BG1.
I am for the moment in the the end of chapter 2 and all of my chararters has reached level 4 and some are near level 5.
Sat, 17th May '03, 10:16pm
I've just started playing BG again a few weeks ago and decided to play evil to the core. My PC is Feanor, Chaotic Evil Half-Elf Mage that hates Druids with a passion. Here is my party history so far:
Imoen follwed me after Gorions death, little turp. Monty and Xzar joined me on the way to the Friendly Arm. Met Khalid and Jahiera at the Friendly Arm and we then headed towards Beregost. On the way both Kalhid and Jahiera perished in a freak accident: At the first sight of a Gibberling, I launched a magic missle at Jahiera's face, Xzar did likewise. This left Khalid alone, surrounded by Gibberling, with no hope but his sword to hack his way out. We just left him for dead. Sure enough the gods abandoned him as his sword broke and panic overcame him. Moments later we heard his scream from a distance. We were almost to Beregost. Once there we linked up with Kagain to found some lost caravans. 10 seconds later Kagain didn't care about the caravans anymore and so we headed to Nashkal. Upon getting there I told Imoen to wait for me outside the Inn. We then ran into Minsc and agreed to save the witch in the gnoll fortress. I went there and killed witch myself when Minsc wasn't looking. Then cleared the mines and headed back to Beregost forgetting about Imoen forever. By this time Minsc got mad and attacked us for being too evil. Gave him the last blow to the head he'll ever have. I then found out about the bandits and searched the forests. Picked up Shar-Teel
and Viconia. Killed some bandits and headed to Cloakwood and slaughtered every druid I could find. Currently standing in front of the Mines of Cloakwood.
PC - Mage, Chaotic Evil
Xzar - Mage, Chaotic Evil
Shar Teel - Fighter, Chaotic Evil
Monty - Fighter/Thief, Neutral Evil
Viconia - Cleric, Neutral Evil
Kagain - Fighter, Lawful Evil
Sun, 18th May '03, 12:07am
Nice party, though I'd personally be inclined to drop Xzar and pick up Eldoth later when you find him.
Sun, 18th May '03, 1:26pm
I just found out that chunking Viconia nets you nice 800 of experience points - another reason to choose other clerics/druids over her. ;)
Dave the Magic Turtle
Sun, 18th May '03, 3:48pm
I personally go in for clerics and fighters
my party is:
me (dwarf cleric)
Khalid (half-elf Fighter)
Minsc (best ranger in the game)
Jahera (Druid, she is probably the worst character because she seems to like being dead)
Dynehair (magey thingy)
this party have been through alot and i think and hope they'd serve you as well they did me. :)
Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
Tue, 20th May '03, 9:41pm
Evil parties are the best. If you keep your reputation below 8, you get entirely different special abilities, and the dreams you have get different content.
Wed, 21st May '03, 12:16pm
Hmm .. yeah I'd kill of Khalid (Minsc and Ajantis are able enough fighters) and replace him with either that Edwin bloke in Nashkal or get that Elf with the moonblade ... can't remember his name though ... though usually to solve the spellcaster's problem, I tend to be a spell caster myself. And i wouldn't have changed Imoen as she's a pretty damn good thief... then again the thief you find in the spider forest place is pretty damned good as well and makes way for an entertaining sub plot.
If you want to keep Minsc, get Dyenhair or whatever her name is at the Gnoll Stronghold...
Fri, 23rd May '03, 12:08am
If you keep your reputation below 8, you get entirely different special abilities, and the dreams you have get different content.True. My rep right now is 4. It was 1 when I killed a bunch of slaves in my romp through the Cloackwood mines, then flooding it killing any I happen to miss. But playing at a rep of 1 is impossible as the Flaming Fags spawn every three feet. I had to go to a church and donate a grip of gold. I got it up to 5, then killed the priest which lowered it. Getta get my coin back. What can I say, I'm an indian giver.
Fri, 23rd May '03, 3:27am
I hated Jaheira in this game -- killed her off ASAP. I liked using Khalid and/or Minsc as front runner melee characters. Yeslick was my clerical powerhouse, Imoen and/or Coran provide bow coverage, and Dynaheir took care of all my spellcasting needs. Branwen, Ajantis and Kivan can also be most excellent additions.