Spyware... - Page 2

Wordplay · Sat, 20th Mar '04, 1:23pm

IE is really good in sucking all kinds of malware

Metal LEPER, you could always give a shot to Knoppix, once v3.4 comes out (should support new videocards then). It does not require installing -just make a bootable CD and vôila; Linux-On-RAM with all office/internet/game candies.

The best part is, when considering spyware, that once you reboot your machine, ALL malware is gone (due of being on RAM).

Dalveen · Sat, 20th Mar '04, 1:46pm

What i want to know is that if Gator is so bad, why does it come with GoZilla, the download manager??

Taluntain · Sat, 20th Mar '04, 2:15pm

Because people who distribute it are very well paid. Hence, providing a "free" tool is only true at the first glance.

metal leper · Sat, 20th Mar '04, 4:20pm

As far as I can tell download accelerator plus installs spyware that isn't as bad as Gator, only problem is spybot won't remove it without you uninstalling DAP first (which removes most of it anyway)

As for knoppix - I have 3.3 and 3.2. 3.3 Won't use the usb ports on this computer though (my usb mouse lights up whilst knoppix is autoconfiguring my hardware, but goes off after). So I'd be without a printer, scanner and broadband modem if I used knoppix [edit: and my external hard drive and flash pen]

Still, this has gone a long way off topic, so I should probably stop trying to turn everyone against microsft now

[ March 20, 2004, 16:35: Message edited by: metal leper ]

Rastor · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 5:41am

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The other major browsers block pop-up, support standards better and pay more attention to security.

And don't support certain plug-ins, integrated tools, etc.

I fail to see how the other major browsers pay more attention to security. And this "standards support" stuff is a bunch of crap. I have yet to have any page fail to load in IE 6.01. As long as you keep your browser updated, it doesn't really matter what you use.

Wordplay · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 1:28pm

When it comes to freeware, all "support" is just a bunch of crap -and MS is no exeption. Have you thought, that maybe those "others" do not NEED plug-ins because the already have those tools integrated? Even so, there is certain plug-in projects going on for every browser -not just IE.

Rastor · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 9:18pm

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Have you thought, that maybe those "others" do not NEED plug-ins because the already have those tools integrated?

Not legally they don't.

Wordplay · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 10:18pm

Name one tool that offers some function only to IE that, say; Mozilla doesn't have.

Jaguar · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 10:27pm

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Of course, I don't run any filth like Kazaa, which is basically a big bag of spyware, adware and other invasive filth that gets reinstalled every time you run it...

But I still want my music without having to remove all those blasted programs all the time. What other free music download sites are there that don't come with Gator or what not?

metal leper · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 11:00pm

click

That's just one example of stuff I found by searching on google for 2 minutes

Google something like "internet explorer html standards" (or replace html with web or just leave it out, probably other words would work too)

Also google "internet explorer secuity exploit" - you'll find 152,000 results. "Mozilla security exploit" only gives 19,000, although this isn't really a fair comparison since less people use Mozilla, but its still a reasonable fraction I imagine, and more mozilla users will be looking for bugs and reporting them is easier (in fact the first result google will give you will be about reporting security flaws)

I've not had any problems with plug ins on windows, had some trouble with firebird on linux, and some java things need you to be running windows for them to work, that's not a browser/plug-in problem though

Taluntain · Wed, 24th Mar '04, 11:25pm

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But I still want my music without having to remove all those blasted programs all the time. What other free music download sites are there that don't come with Gator or what not?

I doubt there are any. All these "free" programs operate on the premise that the return for providing the service is infestation and infiltration of your system. This, of course, is illegal, but then, so is downloading music without paying for it. iTunes sells music for 99 cents apiece, and is as clean as a whistle and has tons of excellent options for what you can do with the music in the program itself. If I ever got back into downloading music online, I'd go with iTunes.

Wordplay · Thu, 25th Mar '04, 12:20pm

Or you can visit my page, take a look at the Linkage section, and pay a visit to that totally free Mp3 download site

(Even though it has a download limit of 10 Mp3's per day

)

Rastor, I'm still waiting your answer.

Rastor · Thu, 25th Mar '04, 7:38pm

Do the Acrobat PDF macros work with Mozilla?

I have a Premium Napster account for free (well, sort of-my tuition pays for it), but they do have a totally free service that allows you to stream a limited number of songs per month. This is legal.

All sites that allow you to download burnable music for free are illegal, with the exception of private band sites.

Wordplay · Thu, 25th Mar '04, 10:29pm

Yes, they work. At least my version (5.01 Full) works as fine as any. So, another shot?

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Sat, 20th Mar '04, 1:23pm	#26
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Sat, 20th Mar '04, 1:46pm	#27
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Sat, 20th Mar '04, 2:15pm	#28
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,794 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 154 Liked 120 Times in 78 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,142 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 49% Daily Activity 211.31% Weekly Activity 31.06% Monthly Activity 64.09% Achievements Awards	Because people who distribute it are very well paid. Hence, providing a "free" tool is only true at the first glance.

Sat, 20th Mar '04, 4:20pm	#29
metal leper Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wolverhampton/Oxford Posts: 104 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 566 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 48.93% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	As far as I can tell download accelerator plus installs spyware that isn't as bad as Gator, only problem is spybot won't remove it without you uninstalling DAP first (which removes most of it anyway) As for knoppix - I have 3.3 and 3.2. 3.3 Won't use the usb ports on this computer though (my usb mouse lights up whilst knoppix is autoconfiguring my hardware, but goes off after). So I'd be without a printer, scanner and broadband modem if I used knoppix [edit: and my external hard drive and flash pen] Still, this has gone a long way off topic, so I should probably stop trying to turn everyone against microsft now [ March 20, 2004, 16:35: Message edited by: metal leper ]

Wed, 24th Mar '04, 1:28pm	#31
Wordplay Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: --Gone-- Posts: 3,453 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,449 Level: 26 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.5% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	When it comes to freeware, all "support" is just a bunch of crap -and MS is no exeption. Have you thought, that maybe those "others" do not NEED plug-ins because the already have those tools integrated? Even so, there is certain plug-in projects going on for every browser -not just IE.

Wed, 24th Mar '04, 10:18pm	#33
Wordplay Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: --Gone-- Posts: 3,453 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,449 Level: 26 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.5% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	Name one tool that offers some function only to IE that, say; Mozilla doesn't have.

Wed, 24th Mar '04, 11:00pm	#35
metal leper Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wolverhampton/Oxford Posts: 104 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 566 Level: 8 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 48.93% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	click That's just one example of stuff I found by searching on google for 2 minutes Google something like "internet explorer html standards" (or replace html with web or just leave it out, probably other words would work too) Also google "internet explorer secuity exploit" - you'll find 152,000 results. "Mozilla security exploit" only gives 19,000, although this isn't really a fair comparison since less people use Mozilla, but its still a reasonable fraction I imagine, and more mozilla users will be looking for bugs and reporting them is easier (in fact the first result google will give you will be about reporting security flaws) I've not had any problems with plug ins on windows, had some trouble with firebird on linux, and some java things need you to be running windows for them to work, that's not a browser/plug-in problem though

Thu, 25th Mar '04, 12:20pm	#37
Wordplay Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: --Gone-- Posts: 3,453 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,449 Level: 26 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.5% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	Or you can visit my page, take a look at the Linkage section, and pay a visit to that totally free Mp3 download site (Even though it has a download limit of 10 Mp3's per day ) Rastor, I'm still waiting your answer.

Thu, 25th Mar '04, 7:38pm	#38
Rastor FFG's Baatorian Mate Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Avernus Posts: 3,533 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,941 Level: 27 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 4.02% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	Do the Acrobat PDF macros work with Mozilla? I have a Premium Napster account for free (well, sort of-my tuition pays for it), but they do have a totally free service that allows you to stream a limited number of songs per month. This is legal. All sites that allow you to download burnable music for free are illegal, with the exception of private band sites.

Thu, 25th Mar '04, 10:29pm	#39
Wordplay Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: --Gone-- Posts: 3,453 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 7,449 Level: 26 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 30.5% Daily Activity 2.98% Weekly Activity 1.28% Monthly Activity 2.11% Achievements	Yes, they work. At least my version (5.01 Full) works as fine as any. So, another shot?