Dragon Age Forum News III (Nov. 11, 07)

chevalier · Sun, 11th Nov '07, 3:11pm

Mary Kirby, Writer

Degrees of graphic sex in DA

Honestly, even animating disrobing is a huge investment. Clothing would have to move and crinkle in ways it doesn't have to for anything else. And it would be harder to animate well for a cutscene because the player might very well be wearing anything from a mage's robe to heavy plate. There's generally a reason why when you equip new armor, you don't see your character take off the old stuff and pull on his or her new clothes.

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Mass Effect does not have different playable races. You are always human. So they didn't have to make those same sex scenes over and over with different animations to account for the player being a Turian or an Asari. Dragon Age's romances are not restricted by race. You could very well be a dwarf romancing a human, or a human romancing that same character.

Merlanni · Sat, 8th Dec '07, 12:03am

That explains the half naked female fighters in games.

Trellheim · Sat, 8th Dec '07, 1:30am

Is game sex really that necessary to many people?

chevalier · Mon, 10th Dec '07, 8:27pm

That's how it looks from the discussions on the boards. People indeed ask about such things and I've seen way more than that. It's embarrassing sometimes. One would think the discussion would be about weapons, monsters, quests, something like that. And then no, people have to ask for actual nudity, sex close-ups and the like.

Marceror · Sun, 16th Dec '07, 2:29am

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Originally Posted by chevalier

That's how it looks from the discussions on the boards. People indeed ask about such things and I've seen way more than that. It's embarrassing sometimes. One would think the discussion would be about weapons, monsters, quests, something like that. And then no, people have to ask for actual nudity, sex close-ups and the like.

You know, there's already an entire industry devoted to that. I'm not sure why it's needed in CRPGs. At any rate, I certainly hope the dev team isn't spending a lot of its time on trivial, unnecessary stuff like this.

chevalier · Sun, 16th Dec '07, 2:33pm

Yup. I suppose certain decisions in the area of design may have been a result of that pressure, but I defnitely don't think they're going to cave in and do anything that could prevent their games from rating as Teen - after all, that's the primary target audience of their games.

As for your question, well, developers do reply in those threads and sometimes it takes a while. I'd rather they could focus on something else, but it's their choice what they reply to and what they discuss, so I guess it's not such a horrible weight on them.

Merlanni · Sun, 16th Dec '07, 10:06pm

No. game sex is silly. Romancing is good, any which way as real as life, but pure sex and naked or barely clothed females are the bad type of eye candy. The whitcher just stepped over the edge, making it a quest to get laid, I mean gather the cards for, o well whatever. Perhaps one day some idiot gives xp for it.

Good gamemakers place it in games on the right moment. A slave dancing girl at the feet of the crime boss, a funny questsituation like no cltohes after a swimm, that kind of things. I know Bioware will not make that mistake and deliver it in the correct way resulting to a teen rating. No worries for me.

If you really want to stare at nudity in games use mods. like sex and the single adventuress for NWN(That was funny), the one for Aribeth, or the clothing mods for KotOr2.

Taluntain · Sun, 16th Dec '07, 11:20pm

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I know Bioware will not make that mistake and deliver it in the correct way resulting to a teen rating.

Khm... I'm guessing you haven't heard about the alien lesbian sex scene in Mass Effect...

Merlanni · Mon, 17th Dec '07, 10:06pm

No. So not teen rating for mass effect?

Taluntain · Mon, 17th Dec '07, 10:44pm

Yup. It's M for mature.

chevalier · Tue, 18th Dec '07, 9:47pm

That scene... I know the problem and I still wonder.

Chandos the Red · Thu, 27th Dec '07, 9:07pm

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It's M for mature.

Look on the bright side: It could have been rated for the immature....

Sun, 11th Nov '07, 3:11pm	#1
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Mon, 17th Dec '07, 10:44pm	#10
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Mon, 10th Dec '07, 8:27pm	#4
chevalier SPS Account Holder Senior News Editor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: I wish I were in the land of coffee... Posts: 16,675 Like: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 62,754 Level: 62 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 24.53% Daily Activity 3.31% Weekly Activity 1.89% Monthly Activity 2.46% Achievements	That's how it looks from the discussions on the boards. People indeed ask about such things and I've seen way more than that. It's embarrassing sometimes. One would think the discussion would be about weapons, monsters, quests, something like that. And then no, people have to ask for actual nudity, sex close-ups and the like.

Sun, 16th Dec '07, 2:33pm	#6
chevalier SPS Account Holder Senior News Editor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: I wish I were in the land of coffee... Posts: 16,675 Like: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 62,754 Level: 62 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 24.53% Daily Activity 3.31% Weekly Activity 1.89% Monthly Activity 2.46% Achievements	Yup. I suppose certain decisions in the area of design may have been a result of that pressure, but I defnitely don't think they're going to cave in and do anything that could prevent their games from rating as Teen - after all, that's the primary target audience of their games. As for your question, well, developers do reply in those threads and sometimes it takes a while. I'd rather they could focus on something else, but it's their choice what they reply to and what they discuss, so I guess it's not such a horrible weight on them.

Sun, 16th Dec '07, 10:06pm	#7
Merlanni SPS Account Holder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Holland, Stad aan het haringvliet Posts: 1,943 Like: 6 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 4,834 Level: 21 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 83.57% Daily Activity 3.31% Weekly Activity 1.89% Monthly Activity 21.71% Achievements Awards	No. game sex is silly. Romancing is good, any which way as real as life, but pure sex and naked or barely clothed females are the bad type of eye candy. The whitcher just stepped over the edge, making it a quest to get laid, I mean gather the cards for, o well whatever. Perhaps one day some idiot gives xp for it. Good gamemakers place it in games on the right moment. A slave dancing girl at the feet of the crime boss, a funny questsituation like no cltohes after a swimm, that kind of things. I know Bioware will not make that mistake and deliver it in the correct way resulting to a teen rating. No worries for me. If you really want to stare at nudity in games use mods. like sex and the single adventuress for NWN(That was funny), the one for Aribeth, or the clothing mods for KotOr2.

Mon, 17th Dec '07, 10:06pm	#9
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Tue, 18th Dec '07, 9:47pm	#11
chevalier SPS Account Holder Senior News Editor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: I wish I were in the land of coffee... Posts: 16,675 Like: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post vBActivity - Stats XP: 62,754 Level: 62 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 24.53% Daily Activity 3.31% Weekly Activity 1.89% Monthly Activity 2.46% Achievements	That scene... I know the problem and I still wonder.