Is it time to create DA3 section

Munchkin Blender · Thu, 12th Apr '12, 3:43pm

I recommend creating a Bioware section and listing each one of their non-D&D games under it as Bioware does have an assortment of RPG games now out there.

Rawgrim · Thu, 12th Apr '12, 5:15pm

If they continue down the path of DA2, why bother? DA2 wasn`t even a roleplaying game.

henkie · Thu, 12th Apr '12, 6:16pm

Neither are Mass Effect 2 & 3, but they still have sections here. But I would argue to just make one forum for each franchise. The non-IE-games' sections on SP are not really that busy, so why not group them together a little bit so one doesn't have to scroll up and down so much?

Taluntain · Fri, 13th Apr '12, 2:09am

I'm going to make a forum for DA3 and see if I can make the forum list more compact... I can't make a single forum for various franchises if they're currently split into several forums short of making a container forum and then listing them as subforums though. Just merging everything into a single forum (say DA 1-3) would mean all the DA1 and 2 threads would be mixed together. Same goes for any other series.

Rawgrim · Fri, 13th Apr '12, 3:41am

Has DA3 even been announced yet?

Munchkin Blender · Fri, 13th Apr '12, 3:19pm

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Originally Posted by Rawgrim

Has DA3 even been announced yet?

Yes to an extent. Bioware has announced they are looking for developers to develop the game and they want gamers feedback through their website. So yes, DA3 is being made. Will it reach the hand of gamers, right now I would say yes.

Rawgrim · Fri, 13th Apr '12, 3:22pm

Aparantly they are going with the ME2 + DA2 lack of customizable companion armours\outfits again...Instant fail right there.

Merlanni · Wed, 22nd Aug '12, 9:18pm

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Originally Posted by Rawgrim

If they continue down the path of DA2, why bother? DA2 wasn`t even a roleplaying game.

I second this.

Marceror · Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 9:44pm

I very much enjoyed my single play through of Dragon Age 2. I even posted a review of the game that was quite positive, and it was a truthful and objective review for the time that I posted it. I'll admit that the crazy action animations were satisfying to some sophmoric side of me. I finished the game, and the rating that I gave it at the time was truly reflective of my experience at the time, though I had my share of criticisms too.

That said, my second attempt at a play through lasted all of about 10 minutes before I lost interest. I had absolutely zero motivation to pick up any of the DLC for this game, and did not (except for whatever I got for pre-ordering).

I realize now, with some additional time and perspective behind me, that what Bioware gave us in DA2 was a short fling rather than a lasting love affair -- and I realize that my assessment is far kinder than that of many. Dragon Age Origins was a lasting love affair for which I happily purchased *nearly* all of the DLCs (I didn't bother with playing as the Darkspawn, just not my thing), the expansion, and played all of it multiple times with different class and party combos. I still feel that Origins was indeed the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. I would gladly play another Bioware game that captures the BG essence again.

If Dragon Age 3 isn't another spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate, I'm pretty sure Bioware can count me out as a future game owner. I'm done with flings.

hannibal555 · Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 10:14pm

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Originally Posted by Marceror

If Dragon Age 3 isn't another spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate, I'm pretty sure Bioware can count me out as a future game owner. I'm done with flings.

I doubt the spiritual successor part.
Possibly they will adress a lot of issues that had been criticized in DA2, and I could
imagine DA3 to be better than DA2 because of this.
But the grand direction they are going to is basically more cinematic and action oriented.
This is no secret, a lot of important Bioware staff said so already.
This is good news for a lot of gamers who like it, and therefore I'm not mad at the Bioware staff and their new game design philosophy.
I personally don't care anymore and there are still projects elsewhere I am interested in.

Rawgrim · Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 10:14pm

Origins was pretty damn good. I`d say its on par with the first Kotor game. It never reached BG level, though. Still. Damn good game, and I will replay it over and over again. DA2...it will collect dust.

hannibal555 · Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 10:27pm

I liked KotoR more than DAO. Maybe it is because of the solid rules set it is based upon. And the better story.
The first DA is by no means bad, the story just felt a little bit shallow with a boring end game villain (mega dragon appears, hit him until he drops dead *yawn*).
Compared to Darth Malak he is just some boring, anonymous beast.

edit:

but compared to DA2, DA:O is a jewel

Rawgrim · Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 10:45pm

I wouldn\ t call the ruleset Kotor is based on solid, though. But Malak was a better baduy than the archdemon. Still...he did have that...voicebox. Felt a wee bit like a Vader rip-off.

Marceror · Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 11:18pm

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Originally Posted by Rawgrim

Origins was pretty damn good. I`d say its on par with the first Kotor game. It never reached BG level, though. Still. Damn good game, and I will replay it over and over again. DA2...it will collect dust.

When I say that Origins was indeed the spiritual successor to BG, I certainly don't mean to imply that it was as good as BG. I'm fairly convinced that nothing will ever be as good as BG. I simply mean that DAO captures the general essence or formula of much that made BG what it is. It is a worthy successor, in several respects, but that doesn't mean that it actually hits the same bar. It comes close is some respects, and surpasses in others (graphics, obviously), but overall there is an extra dose of "magic" in the BG series that sets it apart.

If I had more time, I'd try to quantify it better, but my 5 minute mental break from work is over.

Overall, I think it's clear that Bioware is now heading down a very different path than they were even with Origins. And that is not a path I am personally interested in heading down, so I will likely just need to wish them well, and hope for BGEE to materialize a true and worth BG3. There's really little else going on in CRPG-land that I have much interest in.

Rawgrim · Fri, 24th Aug '12, 1:30am

Ohh i wasn`t saying that I thought you were saying that you feel DA:O is as good as the BG series

And I do agree: It is a good spiritual successor. I was probably abit unclear; since i was writing the post while on the phone.

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Fri, 13th Apr '12, 3:41am	#5
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Fri, 13th Apr '12, 3:22pm	#7
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Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 10:14pm	#11
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Thu, 23rd Aug '12, 10:45pm	#13
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Fri, 24th Aug '12, 1:30am	#15
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