Rome 2 is announced!

Marceror · Sun, 8th Jul '12, 9:07pm

Rome 2 is announced!

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An early trailer to get you into the mood: LINK

Some developer commentary:

Commentary 1

Commentary 2

I'm particularly intrigued by the marriage between land and naval fighting that is discussed.

Darion · Sun, 8th Jul '12, 10:31pm

Great stuff.

Now that Shogun and Rome ( soon ) are updated to next gen, i can live happy.

joacqin · Mon, 9th Jul '12, 12:03am

I don't know I have been playing a lot of the first Rome lately and gosh darn it if it still aint better than both Empire and Shogun 2. Those two have no re-playability. I hope it just is because I have little historical interest in those two periods but I wonder. I have played countless hours of Rome and M2 but only a game or two of Empire and Shogun 2. Was really bored this spring and started a Rome game, ended up with playing three major campaigns and spent more time now on this revisit of the game than I think I did on Empire and S2 combined. That must mean something. :s

Watched the trailers and it did not look good. The combat looked horrible. I will probably buy but I almost hope that I will end up postponing due to a shoddy computer. Listening to the commentary and it also sounds horrible. Dumbing stuff down. Damn, and why are they so focused on naval battles recently? It is not interesting. I sure hope they at least will have all the varied factions from the original Rome.

Morgoth · Mon, 9th Jul '12, 7:38pm

The second trailer is a mod for a previous Total war game, it would be a complete farce otherwise.

Darion · Mon, 9th Jul '12, 8:40pm

^ What he said.

I'm sure Rome 2 will be awesome.
Not to mention if the RomeTotalRealism Team decides one day to make a RTR for Rome2 too!

Marceror · Mon, 9th Jul '12, 9:19pm

Okay, I removed the second trailer. I thought that I was looking at a really bad pre-alpha or something. But it was actually a pretty impressive update for Rome 1 (considering what Rome 1 normally looks like).

@Joa
One of the commentary videos stressed that there will be a huge emphasis on creating a lot of diverse factions and cultures to represent the time frame, so I believe that you will indeed have that diversity that you've been lacking since, really, Medieval 2.

IIRC, one of the devs mentioned that Rome 2's budget will be 40% larger than any Total War game to date, so that would imply that they will actually have the resources to create a huge, culturally diverse game. It sounds like they're trying to make the mother of all Total Wars.

As for not liking naval battles, to each his own I guess. I very much enjoy them, and am intrigued that I will be able to unload soldiers from boats to dry land during a real time battle in Rome 2. Talk about a new layer of immersion and lots of new tactical possibilities.

Darion · Tue, 10th Jul '12, 2:02pm

For those disliking Naval warfare, there will still be the auto-resolve button!

henkie · Wed, 25th Jul '12, 6:26am

What does that trailer have to do with the game? I thought I was looking at some kind of trailer for a bad series or very bad movie and then it turns out to be for a game...

The commentaries don't give me much more hope, but as always we'll just have to see how it turns out. I won't be holding my breath, though.

Marceror · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 4:05pm

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Originally Posted by henkie

What does that trailer have to do with the game? I thought I was looking at some kind of trailer for a bad series or very bad movie and then it turns out to be for a game...

It's too early for CA to release actual gameplay footage, so this trailer is meant to set the mood for the game and get people excited about going back to Rome (well, everyone except for henkie).

henkie · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 7:58pm

If they want to make me interested in the game, show me something of the game itself.

Plus, the trailer seems to suggest diplomacy and assassinations, whereas I recall one of the commentaries mentioned something about reducing the micro-management on the world map, which for me is mostly the management of spies and assassins. Seems contradictory to me.

Marceror · Mon, 30th Jul '12, 11:38pm

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Originally Posted by henkie

If they want to make me interested in the game, show me something of the game itself.

I'm sure they will... when they have a game to show you.

Quote:

Plus, the trailer seems to suggest diplomacy and assassinations, whereas I recall one of the commentaries mentioned something about reducing the micro-management on the world map, which for me is mostly the management of spies and assassins. Seems contradictory to me.

You might be overthinking this just a tad!

I sincerely doubt that they are going to remove diplomacy and espionage from the game, as these are well-loved and important features of the Total War series, and certainly appropriate for the setting of this game. I believe the "reduced micromanagement" comment was more in relation to setting taxes, managing build queues for your settlements etc. So, I don't agree, at all, that this video represents some sort of contradiction on the part of the Creative Assembly. More than anything... it's just a video to get you in the mood for Rome 2 Total War, a placeholder until the game is developed sufficiently to the point that actual gameplay footage can be shared. Don’t look for much more than that here, as I don’t think you will find it.

As a side note, is pessimism a career choice for you, or is it something that you are just naturally gifted at?

henkie · Tue, 31st Jul '12, 4:52pm

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Originally Posted by Marceror

I'm sure they will... when they have a game to show you.

I wonder what the marketing thought behind it is. If they've got nothing to show us yet, why bother to make a trailer when by the time the next trailer comes out we'll have forgotten all about it anyway?

Quote:

You might be overthinking this just a tad!

Probably - it was just an errant thought anyway. But if they do reduce the micro-management and don't mean the spies and stuff, it means that they apparently intend to reduce the setting of taxes and building order, as you say. And that is - for me - the least tedious part of the micro-management on the world map. I like being able to determine the build order for myself, to prioritise certain buildingtypes in a settlement over others, depending on the current tactical situation.

Quote:

As a side note, is pessimism a career choice for you, or is it something that you are just naturally gifted at?

Let's say my natural cynicism has been enhanced by a lifetime of experience.
I do sometimes wonder if I'm not becoming too cynical, but then something happens that proves me absolutely right.

Marceror · Thu, 6th Sep '12, 7:28pm

I found some jaw dropping early images of Rome 2. Here's a nice one of an up close city brawl!

Here's a link with some more eye candy.

Now to clean the drool off my desk!

Darion · Wed, 26th Sep '12, 10:09pm

Here the Gameplay Trailer:

Seem to, like there will be more drool...

Will need better Rig to run this maxed! :/

Darion · Fri, 19th Oct '12, 8:45pm

Total War: Rome II - Battle of Carthage Gameplay Footage

Nice, nice!

PS. Yay for my first ever successful embedding!

Marceror · Sat, 20th Oct '12, 12:24am

This looks absolutely great Darion. I really dig how navies, armies and cities can be brought together on a single battlefield! Elephants too! Carthage is massive, and looks amazing.

I appreciate you sharing.

chevalier · Sun, 4th Nov '12, 1:17am

Looks great but I'll probably be skipping it. There's such a lot of world to see... and so little life.

Sun, 8th Jul '12, 9:07pm	#1
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Mon, 9th Jul '12, 8:40pm	#5
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Mon, 9th Jul '12, 12:03am	#3
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Mon, 30th Jul '12, 7:58pm	#10
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Thu, 6th Sep '12, 7:28pm	#13
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Sat, 20th Oct '12, 12:24am	#16
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Sun, 4th Nov '12, 1:17am	#17
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