Cleric is missing all the time (BG2)

[ShinichiWTB]

I'm playing cleric (priest of helm) in single player mode.
Cleric is missing all the time. Cannot pass the first combat with memphits.
(yes I know, I can use some spells or choose different class but that's not it)

Cleric has str 18, and using mace with one proficiency slot. I simply cannot pass this first combat. restarted few times. same problem.
Can't hit anything. Imoen is hitting from time to time but also missing VERY often.

Is it a bug or something else (is the cleric buggy??).

p.s.
I have official patch installed.

[SlickRCBD]

Those memphits are difficult for clerics, thieves and mages. Not so much the electrical ones, but all the other ones found in the dungeon. Use your spells, that's what they are for.

Although your cleric shouldn't be doing any worse than Imoen, he shouldn't be doing any better (save for better HP and a lower AC, but we're talking offense, not defense). Try enabling the options to show you the die rolls and see if you are just having bad luck or if you really are having a harder time hitting than Imoen.

[ShinichiWTB]

OK. Thanks for the info.

I must admit that I was quite suspicious about cleric HtH combat with those memphits when I saw so many missed attacks (many critical misses also - simply not probable).
I was watching closely and never saw a single hit. So cleric has a 100% miss.
Imoen was slightly better but not much. Not to mention that I've died in a first combat few times.
I wanted to see if cleric can defeat memphits in close HtH combat.
Obviously not.


Can you tell me where is the option to enable die rolls?

[gorgon82]

HtH? Why not just go to the room with the golem, just NW of your cell and grab some weapons and armor? I've only ever used HtH with a monk.

[Gafgorkion]

Originally Posted by gorgon82

HtH? Why not just go to the room with the golem, just NW of your cell and grab some weapons and armor? I've only ever used HtH with a monk.

He technically meant melee combat, not hand to hand, since in his first post he said he was using a mace.

As for turning on the die rolls, there should be an option for it in the main menu. I also suggest doing this, because it shows exactly when you get an attack roll which is probably less often than you think so you aren't missing as many attacks as you think.

Remember that one round is six seconds long. A cleric only gets one attack per round, so he is only getting one attack every six seconds. Visually on screen he swings his mace more often than that, but that is just to make it more exciting to watch because it would be too boring if he just stood there doing nothing and only swinging his mace every six seconds. So not every swing is an actual attack roll.

Also is there any reason you decided to not take Minsc and/or Jaheira? As fighter classes, they will have a much better THAC0 than your cleric. Your cleric is level 8 I assume? That's a base 16 THAC0, and with 18 strength, your total THAC0 is only 15. Minsc at level 8 would have base 13 THAC0 and with 18/90 strength and weapon specialization his total THAC0 is 10, which is much better. Not to mention he gets two attacks per round versus your cleric's one attack per round.

[damedog]

Cast Draw Upon Holy Might and your cleric should hit things just fine. Or you could use the Seeking Sword ability that Clerics of Helm have. I think it gives you 3 attacks per round.

[SlickRCBD]

Originally Posted by ShinichiWTB

OK. Thanks for the info.

I must admit that I was quite suspicious about cleric HtH combat with those memphits when I saw so many missed attacks (many critical misses also - simply not probable).
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Can you tell me where is the option to enable die rolls?

By HtH combat, do you mean melee combat? I thought you were using a mace. In AD&D, HtH combat means physical combat without a weapon, although it is often hand-to-claw. I'm not trying to yell at your or be condescending, just trying to point out the correct terminology. Just like everything you meet in a dungeon is called a "monster" even if it is a member of the human race of lawful good alignment.

If you were indeed using HtH combat, no wonder you were getting creamed. Only the Monk can pull it off well. Everyone else gets a -4 penalty.

As for how to turn on that option, click on the disk icon near the bottom-left of the screen, then click on "gameplay" then "feedback" then "to-hit rolls". You might want to enable everything on "Feedback".

Then your combat will look like this: