Icewind Game Freezing

Asmodeus · Wed, 19th Dec '01, 9:17am

I don´t know whether it´s one of IWD´s extra features, thereby adding a little chill factor to the game

, but the game frequently ´freezes´, causing sometimes the whole system to freeze. (how applicable to the game isn´t it)
This happens at variable locations and actions. I do have HOW installed as well as Trails of the Luremaster on win 98. I have the latest drivers for my geforce2 videocard and I only have this problem during IWD not with BG or BGII.
Anybody out there with suggestions ?

Mollusken · Wed, 19th Dec '01, 3:21pm

Playing on resolutions above 800*600 can cause problems, and so you are told if you choose to unlock the higher resolutions.

Taluntain · Wed, 19th Dec '01, 3:22pm

Asmodeus, do you have the HoW patch installed? If not, see http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/IWD/index_misc.htm

Thu, 20th Dec '01, 4:50am

You need the patch even when you have Trails installed?

Taluntain · Thu, 20th Dec '01, 8:56am

Well obviously. Trials isn't a patch. But you need to patch HoW before installing ToTL, so that might be a problem...

Asmodeus · Thu, 20th Dec '01, 9:36am

MMmmm, when you install Trails of the Luremaster, it automatically installs HOWpatch v1.42, that´s one version above the one mentioned.
( See also http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/IWD/how_exp.htm )
At least, that´s what it says during installation, could there be some glitch ?
And I´m playing the game in 800*600 res, that´s one of the great features in How.

Taluntain · Thu, 20th Dec '01, 7:52pm

No, it must be right if it says so in the installation. There was some talk months ago that it probably won't contain the patch, but it obviously does. (I have ToTL on my HD but haven't installed it yet...)

ejsmith · Fri, 21st Dec '01, 1:03am

Yep, Trial o' the Luremaster is a patch. Or at least, it has a patch in it. Which is the latest patch you can get for IwD/HoW.

Anyways, that lockup issue is scrood. I've played all different configs, on my laptop and desktop, and never had IwD lockup once. But, I am using Win2k on both machines.

I'm going to have to go with either swap file space (IwD likes swap space), or vid/mainboard drivers. Drivers suck if you're using AMD, because ntel makes the standards for all the components.

Asmodeus · Fri, 21st Dec '01, 9:19am

That might indeed be a problem since i´m using AMD Athlon.
I could try to experiment with the swap file space mentioned by ejsmith as well trying to download the latest mainboard drivers.
I will let you know if things work out.

ejsmith · Sat, 22nd Dec '01, 3:32am

Asmodeus: I have an Athlon and Asus a7v133 and GF2 Ultra. My mainboard doesn't like the new 4.36 4n1 drivers; I'm lucky to get 12hours uptime before it locks up. I think my card does ok with the 23.11 detonators, because I have all the 'extra' options cranked up and IwD cranks hard.

You might try the 4.32 drivers, and the 16-21 detonator drivers if you have a Nvidia. Then, one by one, up each until you're unstable.

Capt. Tripps · Sat, 22nd Dec '01, 8:13pm

Also if you have a sound card that uses ESS drivers you need to disable Wave Device for Voice Modem in the device manager. This fix came up back in Sept on this thread http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000751.html

Asmodeus · Sun, 23rd Dec '01, 12:18pm

Ejsmith, the strange thing is that the system only freezes while playing IWD. (By that I mean more frequently than other Win 9.x situations

)
And i'm using my PC for a lot of other things (Such as BGI, BGII, ToB

)
But I've updated my mainboard, Transcend AKT4/a and I've been playing IWD for 8 hours straight, no technical freezes (If you know what I mean)
Thanks again for all the help.

[This message has been edited by Asmodeus (edited December 23, 2001).]

ejsmith · Mon, 24th Dec '01, 4:11am

Asmodeus: I'm glad it's working for you.

Just like the ump says: "Play the game, kid."

Sun, 30th Dec '01, 1:47am

i think you should uninstall and reinstall

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Wed, 19th Dec '01, 9:17am	#1
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Wed, 19th Dec '01, 3:21pm	#2
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Wed, 19th Dec '01, 3:22pm	#3
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,812 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,185 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.81% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 175.8% Monthly Activity 86.2% Achievements Awards	Asmodeus, do you have the HoW patch installed? If not, see http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/IWD/index_misc.htm

Thu, 20th Dec '01, 4:50am	#4
Thalantyr Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	You need the patch even when you have Trails installed?

Thu, 20th Dec '01, 8:56am	#5
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,812 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,185 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.81% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 175.8% Monthly Activity 86.2% Achievements Awards	Well obviously. Trials isn't a patch. But you need to patch HoW before installing ToTL, so that might be a problem...

Thu, 20th Dec '01, 9:36am	#6
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Thu, 20th Dec '01, 7:52pm	#7
Taluntain SPS Account Holder Founder Resident Alpha and Omega Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cori Celesti Posts: 20,812 Blog Entries: 13 Like: 159 Liked 124 Times in 80 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 53,185 Level: 58 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 50.81% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 175.8% Monthly Activity 86.2% Achievements Awards	No, it must be right if it says so in the installation. There was some talk months ago that it probably won't contain the patch, but it obviously does. (I have ToTL on my HD but haven't installed it yet...)

Fri, 21st Dec '01, 1:03am	#8
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Fri, 21st Dec '01, 9:19am	#9
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Sat, 22nd Dec '01, 3:32am	#10
ejsmith Gems: 25/31 Latest gem: Moonbar Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 2,238 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 5,128 Level: 22 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 39.89% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Asmodeus: I have an Athlon and Asus a7v133 and GF2 Ultra. My mainboard doesn't like the new 4.36 4n1 drivers; I'm lucky to get 12hours uptime before it locks up. I think my card does ok with the 23.11 detonators, because I have all the 'extra' options cranked up and IwD cranks hard. You might try the 4.32 drivers, and the 16-21 detonator drivers if you have a Nvidia. Then, one by one, up each until you're unstable.

Sat, 22nd Dec '01, 8:13pm	#11
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Sun, 23rd Dec '01, 12:18pm	#12
Asmodeus Gems: 5/31 Latest gem: Andar Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maastricht, Netherlands Posts: 128 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 713 Level: 9 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 41.16% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Ejsmith, the strange thing is that the system only freezes while playing IWD. (By that I mean more frequently than other Win 9.x situations ) And i'm using my PC for a lot of other things (Such as BGI, BGII, ToB ) But I've updated my mainboard, Transcend AKT4/a and I've been playing IWD for 8 hours straight, no technical freezes (If you know what I mean) Thanks again for all the help. [This message has been edited by Asmodeus (edited December 23, 2001).]

Mon, 24th Dec '01, 4:11am	#13
ejsmith Gems: 25/31 Latest gem: Moonbar Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 2,238 Like: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts vBActivity - Stats XP: 5,128 Level: 22 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 39.89% Daily Activity 2.43% Weekly Activity 2.43% Monthly Activity 2.04% Achievements	Asmodeus: I'm glad it's working for you. Just like the ump says: "Play the game, kid."

Sun, 30th Dec '01, 1:47am	#14
jesper898 Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	i think you should uninstall and reinstall