Puerto Rican Day Parade!

SlimShogun · Sun, 9th Jun '02, 11:46pm

I'm not sure if any of you live in NYC or are familiar with it, but I just got back from this year's PR day parade and it was, well, INCREDIBLE.

TheBlackRose · Sun, 9th Jun '02, 11:50pm

On an off-topic note (this is Whatnots, people), the "Puerto Rican Day" episode of Seinfeld (one of the last ones, I believe) was absolutely incredible. Too funny!

SlimShogun · Mon, 10th Jun '02, 2:39am

I agree!

Shralp · Mon, 10th Jun '02, 3:45pm

Hey, TBR, you know that they've promised never to show that episode again? Apparently some Puerto Ricans were offended that Kramer was stomping on their flag.

SlimShogun · Mon, 10th Jun '02, 10:33pm

Wow. Even though I am an avid Seinfeld fan, I never knew that, and it angers me that this obviously frivolous act (it's Seinfeld, anyway) was taken so seriously.

Errol · Mon, 10th Jun '02, 10:36pm

IMHO, Seinfeld will never be as good as Frasier.

Mon, 10th Jun '02, 10:48pm

Ok,

, i like Seinfeld but once i was in the bad mood and it was horrible, i hated it and i was so angry at them, later i laughed on that, but maybe that man was also pissed.

Back to topic:
Never looked that episode, so what is it Puerto Rican Day Parade about?

[This message has been edited by total (edited June 10, 2002).]

Blackthorne TA · Mon, 10th Jun '02, 11:20pm

SlimShogun - I'm surprised to see that coming from you since you took umbrage with that Abercrombie and Fitch fiasco with the T-shirts. I'd have thought you'd understand how someone might be offended by what another finds funny.

Xenecor · Mon, 10th Jun '02, 11:27pm

total, it represents the contributions of the Puerto Rican community in New York City.

SlimShogun · Tue, 11th Jun '02, 7:35am

BTA, I could feel that post coming from a mile away.

While I understand how my views may be perceived as hypocritical, I feel the advertisement of racial slurs, generalizations, and stereotypes (however cute they may seem) on clothing is a far cry from what Kramer did. If you remember, Kramer extolls the value of being a Puerto Rican in another episode, and there are a myriad of anti-basically everything (including Nazi) connotations in a large portion of Seinfeld episodes. If we take this one episode as a microcosm of the Seinfeld series, it would make the series seem racist or prejudiced. But we must view the series as a whole in order to truly understand the message being sent...the creators were (and are) not truly saying anything negative about Puerto Ricans.

I feel this is different than the A&F fiasco because launching a clothing like to profit off the "humorous" or "funny" stereotypes of Asians or Asian-Americans is taking the issue of "What's funny, and what's innapropriate?" to the level, in my opinion, of innapropriate.

Please try not to delete this post, if you don't have to...last time I did this it was considered "arguing."

Gonzago · Tue, 11th Jun '02, 4:01pm

Looks like some people need to sign up for sensitivity courses. Not ethnic sensitivity courses, mind you.

First Amendment sensitivity courses.

Blackthorne TA · Tue, 11th Jun '02, 11:16pm

Not at all SlimShogun, there's no reason why I'd want to delete your post. I was honestly curious as to why you would be angry over somebody finding the Kramer thing offensive, when you were offended by the A&F T-shirts.

To me, the A&F T-shirts were no big deal, yet to you they are. To you the Kramer situation is no big deal but to others it is. Is that so hard to understand?

I don't care whether you find it offensive or not (I didn't find it offensive), it just seemed strange that you got angry over someone else's finding something offensive. I just thought you would understand where they were coming from, whether you agreed with them or not.

SlimShogun · Wed, 12th Jun '02, 12:54am

I was not angry because "someone thought it offensive," I was angry because the network execs thought there was enough anti-episode support to put a moratorium on broadcasting it...

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Sun, 9th Jun '02, 11:46pm	#1
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Mon, 10th Jun '02, 2:39am	#3
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Mon, 10th Jun '02, 10:33pm	#5
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total Guest Posts: n/a vBActivity - Stats XP: 0 Level: 1 vBActivity - Bars Level Completion: 0% Daily Activity 0% Weekly Activity 0% Monthly Activity 0%	Ok, , i like Seinfeld but once i was in the bad mood and it was horrible, i hated it and i was so angry at them, later i laughed on that, but maybe that man was also pissed. Back to topic: Never looked that episode, so what is it Puerto Rican Day Parade about? [This message has been edited by total (edited June 10, 2002).]

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Tue, 11th Jun '02, 4:01pm	#11
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Wed, 12th Jun '02, 12:54am	#13
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